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nyflyer 11-16-2003 04:08 PM

30-06 for Coyotes
 
Thinking about going after coyotes this winter. I shoot a 30-06, and I don' t reload yet. I know that Remmington put a bullet out years ago that was 30-06 that had a sabot type bullet in it. Is this a reliable cartridge? Will it plastic foul my barrel? or does anybody have a better option other than reloading myself?

lance0623 11-16-2003 05:05 PM

RE: 30-06 for Coyotes
 
I' ve never heard of a sabot in a 30' 06; I' ve only seen them for muzzle loaders and shotguns. Even if they do make them, I' m wondering what the advantage of using them would be? You didn' t say if you' re going after ' yotes for the hides or just predator control. If you are looking to sell or save the hides, you' ll want a smaller round, and one that wont exit preferably. If you' re just shooting them for predator control, any ' 06 round will be more than adequate.

Lance

kyhillbilly74 11-16-2003 05:20 PM

RE: 30-06 for Coyotes
 
nyflyer the rond your talking about is calld a aselaretter over look the spelling I us a 30/06 for coyotes but I us 125 gran and it is the same as a 243 or 6mm rem it will do the job just fine Iv got 3 coyotes and it work' s grat good luck

andy_o 11-19-2003 05:38 PM

RE: 30-06 for Coyotes
 


Hey i think if you are going to shoot lots of coyotes that you should buy a smaller calabier gun. For what it would cost for a new rifle you would save in ammo. I dont like coyotes cuse they kill the deer herd. Good luck you and stay safe.

BigBore1895 11-19-2003 05:56 PM

RE: 30-06 for Coyotes
 
30-06 is a fine coyote gun, and the ammo is relatively inexpensive. You can get a good box of 06' s for $10, and I spend more on that for good ammo for my 22-250. I wouldn' t go with the accelerator' s myself, I would opt for the 125 grains with a ballistic tip or something else that will explode on impact. OR, might be a good opportunity to run your big game hunting loads through and work with those. JMO.

Pro-Line 11-19-2003 06:10 PM

RE: 30-06 for Coyotes
 
If you' re not going to tan them or sell them...shoot ' em with the ' 06. Something cannot be killed deader than dead.

Those accelerator bullets were all-right, but not great. They did seem to dirty a barrel, and also seemed to be apt to tumbling. JMHO

ir655 11-20-2003 06:20 AM

RE: 30-06 for Coyotes
 
I remember sitting in a deer stand one season and a Fox showed up out of nowhere...I had been sitting there for 3 hours and was about ready to go home. I decided to take the fox with my Remington 742 semi-auto loaded with Winchester 165 grain x-bullets. Let me tell you...it is overkill x100, when I approached it I could only see fur laying on the grass. It had blown up straight down across the belly.

I would personally go with something smaller :)

eldeguello 11-20-2003 09:31 AM

RE: 30-06 for Coyotes
 
I think they still make that hypervelocity .22/.30/' 06 load. Accelerators. It shoots OK in some guns, and is very inaccurate in others. You' d have to test them in yours.

Superpig 11-20-2003 11:09 AM

RE: 30-06 for Coyotes
 
Go with 125 gr. loads from either Federal or Winchester. I recently saw a couple of boxes of the old 55 gr. accelerators from Remington. This load has been discontinued for a number of years. I have fired the same accelerator from a Winchester 308 Semi-auto that I have. Accuracy was very erradic. I hope this helps.

A note, if you are hunting for pelts and not trying to damage too much fir you might try some of the FMJ loadings available for the 30-06. They are available from a number of manufacturers and military surplus rounds are in existence for a very cheap price.

Canadian Hunter312 11-20-2003 06:38 PM

RE: 30-06 for Coyotes
 
u guys say that the 06 will damage the pelts too badly for tanning and such....i find that to be incorrect actually. my grandpa uses his old 06 with either 150 or 160gr solid bullets....not sure of there name but they r designed for large game only so they dont even expand in a small coyote or fox so therefore theres minimal damage....

meanwhile, my dad shoots em with his .243 and the bullet does more damage since the .243 bullets r designed to expand in a shorter amount of time since the smaller caliber is used for small game so that the bullet will give more impact on the animal. the 06 bullet dont give its full ft/lbs of energy impact since the bullet doesnt have enuf time to deliver the energy.

so try it out with solid bullets, no holowpoints or ballistic tips, and as long as u dont hit any heavy bone it should do a little less damage then a .243....

just speaking from experience as well as ive heard and read this many places....


ch312

Suthern buck 12-05-2003 12:41 PM

RE: 30-06 for Coyotes
 
i think a 30-06 is way to much for that type of animal unless your just killing them for the hell of it. but if you want anytype of pelt go for a lesser caliber thats overkill.

akbound 12-05-2003 05:10 PM

RE: 30-06 for Coyotes
 
Hi nyflyer,

In the .30-06 the 125 grain bullets are "varmint bullet like" in their effect. They open up rapidly and will kill a coyote quickly. But they will exit...and they will tear up the pelt considerably. If you are just trying to thin the coyote population and pelts are NOT a consideration that is the way to go!

On the other hand if you would like to save the pelts. You might want to try some of the surplus M2 Ball ammo that is available for the .30-06. (I believe most of what is currently available is South Korean....and it is NOT corrosive! So it is completely safe to shoot worry free.) The advantage to the FMJ ball ammo is twofold. One, it sells for about $5.00 per box of 20. And two, as long as it doesn't hit big bone at the exit point....it will "usually" leave a relatively small exit wound.

You should be forewarned though, FMJ's do not normally kill as quickly as soft points. You can be sure that if you put the bullet through the lungs the animal will die, but by hemorrhage, as much as by shock. The same physics that prevent the bullet from shredding the animal and pelt....are at work when applied to lethality. So, unless you hit the brain or spine (not really recommended), you may have a little extra tracking to do! Don't misunderstand me....the FMJ's do kill...just not explosively.

Good luck with whatever you decide!

P.S. If you decide to try the FMJ Ball ammo....check your state's laws. Some states prohibit FMJ's of any type for any type of hunting!

speyrjb 12-06-2003 01:18 PM

RE: 30-06 for Coyotes
 
Well, a 30-06 will definately cut a coyote for a flip but if you want to save the pelt, might want to try what the others have suggessted with FMJ or ball ammo.

Have you ever tried to call em in close and shoot them with a shotgun? Alot of fun and the shot doesn't explode the pelt. Use like #2 buckshot and that will do the trick.


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