Buying an AR-15 these days.
06-28-2020, 01:38 PM
#2
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 2,743
I doubt there is any real shortage in AR's, or not where I'm at, t and here all over the WEB for sale from Dealers that have them, when I last looked at thing
I imagine that what all that is going on with riots and such, are making a LOT more sales of ALL types of guns,sales.
But I don';t think any one model gun is being bought up and low in production.
I would think most makers are making as many as they can to capitalizes on the profits they can make now with demand and sales being what they are!
I imagine that what all that is going on with riots and such, are making a LOT more sales of ALL types of guns,sales.
But I don';t think any one model gun is being bought up and low in production.
I would think most makers are making as many as they can to capitalizes on the profits they can make now with demand and sales being what they are!
06-28-2020, 02:31 PM
#4
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Eastern PA
Posts: 12,720
Don't know where you're looking but there's plenty available at my gun shops. Also, If you want to slap an upper an lower together at a reasonable price check out DeltaTeamTactical.com.
I got a nice accurate combo in 350 Legend earlier this year. They have all kinds of uppers under $200 and lowers about the same. Just a note, you have to buy a bolt and charging handle when you purchase a lower.
I got a nice accurate combo in 350 Legend earlier this year. They have all kinds of uppers under $200 and lowers about the same. Just a note, you have to buy a bolt and charging handle when you purchase a lower.
06-28-2020, 02:34 PM
#5
Super Moderator
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: texas
Posts: 1,190
https://www.model1sales.com/
https://palmettostatearmory.com/ar-1...ifle-kits.html
https://www.primaryarms.com/MCategor...-15-Rifle-Kits
https://thundertactical.com/product-...56-rifle-kits/
https://www.del-ton.com/ar-15-rifle-kits-s/1.htm
https://shop.wisearms.com/ar-15/rifle-kits/
https://www.80-lower.com/collections/ar-15-rifle-kits/
https://www.ar15part.com/AR-15-Compl...its-s/1947.htm
https://blackrifledepot.com/rifle-kits/
the AR15 platform is an adult erector set, you can within,
reasonable limits make or assemble hundreds of different combos
in barrel type, barrel length, types of stocks, and calibers, other components.
just do some research and ask LOTS of questions!
someplace will have exactly what you want at a semi-reasonable price if you shop carefully,
buy a complete kit with the parts you want, minus the lower receiver,
buy a stripped lower, and look over the internet for assembly tools and instructions,
or dump the kit at a local gunsmith for him to complete the combo that contains exactly the components that YOU WANT
most larger gunshops will gladly assembly a kit for you at a semi-reasonable cost
(generally well under $150 if you supply all the parts)
best advice don,t pinch pennies and ask lots of questions, before you purchase a kit, and
buy a complete matched component kit from a single well-known source
that will ship you an assembled upper receiver and the parts to assemble your lower receiver
http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...-buying-stripped-lower-ar-receivers-but.8620/
https://palmettostatearmory.com/ar-1...ifle-kits.html
https://www.primaryarms.com/MCategor...-15-Rifle-Kits
https://thundertactical.com/product-...56-rifle-kits/
https://www.del-ton.com/ar-15-rifle-kits-s/1.htm
https://shop.wisearms.com/ar-15/rifle-kits/
https://www.80-lower.com/collections/ar-15-rifle-kits/
https://www.ar15part.com/AR-15-Compl...its-s/1947.htm
https://blackrifledepot.com/rifle-kits/
the AR15 platform is an adult erector set, you can within,
reasonable limits make or assemble hundreds of different combos
in barrel type, barrel length, types of stocks, and calibers, other components.
just do some research and ask LOTS of questions!
someplace will have exactly what you want at a semi-reasonable price if you shop carefully,
buy a complete kit with the parts you want, minus the lower receiver,
buy a stripped lower, and look over the internet for assembly tools and instructions,
or dump the kit at a local gunsmith for him to complete the combo that contains exactly the components that YOU WANT
most larger gunshops will gladly assembly a kit for you at a semi-reasonable cost
(generally well under $150 if you supply all the parts)
best advice don,t pinch pennies and ask lots of questions, before you purchase a kit, and
buy a complete matched component kit from a single well-known source
that will ship you an assembled upper receiver and the parts to assemble your lower receiver
http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...-buying-stripped-lower-ar-receivers-but.8620/
Last edited by hardcastonly; 06-28-2020 at 03:31 PM.
06-28-2020, 04:49 PM
#6
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Kansas
Posts: 3,877
Firearms are selling faster right now than at any time in history. If you are motivated to sell an AR, it’s exceptionally simple to do so, and if you’re motivated to buy one, it’s cheaper than it has ever been in the last 20 years, at least.
BUT... that latter comment is the bane of many shop owners and less motivated sellers holding old stock, however. In many cases, shops or individuals holding new old stock or used rifles in inventory are simply stuck - I would challenge that much of the inventory over 18mos old in stock or in the hands of individuals have devalued by 30% in that time, easily. Parts and rifles are cheaper than ever as a reseller/builder/retailer, but also the sales prices are lower than ever also, so the margins are relatively terrible. So a boutique builder will have to camp on inventory because they require a higher margin to cover labor (their business) than the market tolerates, or a shop or pawn broker will struggle to cover mark-up margins on used rifles.
If a guy lives on the “Walmart model” right now, slapping together lots of rifles with inexpensive parts in an hour or less each, being willing to make less than $50 Ebitda on the whole shebang (a crap labor rate for smithing work), but selling a dozen of them a month without breaking a sweat, then life can be pretty sweet.
BUT... that latter comment is the bane of many shop owners and less motivated sellers holding old stock, however. In many cases, shops or individuals holding new old stock or used rifles in inventory are simply stuck - I would challenge that much of the inventory over 18mos old in stock or in the hands of individuals have devalued by 30% in that time, easily. Parts and rifles are cheaper than ever as a reseller/builder/retailer, but also the sales prices are lower than ever also, so the margins are relatively terrible. So a boutique builder will have to camp on inventory because they require a higher margin to cover labor (their business) than the market tolerates, or a shop or pawn broker will struggle to cover mark-up margins on used rifles.
If a guy lives on the “Walmart model” right now, slapping together lots of rifles with inexpensive parts in an hour or less each, being willing to make less than $50 Ebitda on the whole shebang (a crap labor rate for smithing work), but selling a dozen of them a month without breaking a sweat, then life can be pretty sweet.
06-29-2020, 07:14 AM
#7
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: IL
Posts: 6,575
https://www.model1sales.com/
https://palmettostatearmory.com/ar-1...ifle-kits.html
https://www.primaryarms.com/MCategor...-15-Rifle-Kits
https://thundertactical.com/product-...56-rifle-kits/
https://www.del-ton.com/ar-15-rifle-kits-s/1.htm
https://shop.wisearms.com/ar-15/rifle-kits/
https://www.80-lower.com/collections/ar-15-rifle-kits/
https://www.ar15part.com/AR-15-Compl...its-s/1947.htm
https://blackrifledepot.com/rifle-kits/
the AR15 platform is an adult erector set, you can within,
reasonable limits make or assemble hundreds of different combos
in barrel type, barrel length, types of stocks, and calibers, other components.
just do some research and ask LOTS of questions!
someplace will have exactly what you want at a semi-reasonable price if you shop carefully,
buy a complete kit with the parts you want, minus the lower receiver,
buy a stripped lower, and look over the internet for assembly tools and instructions,
or dump the kit at a local gunsmith for him to complete the combo that contains exactly the components that YOU WANT
most larger gunshops will gladly assembly a kit for you at a semi-reasonable cost
(generally well under $150 if you supply all the parts)
best advice don,t pinch pennies and ask lots of questions, before you purchase a kit, and
buy a complete matched component kit from a single well-known source
that will ship you an assembled upper receiver and the parts to assemble your lower receiver
http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...-buying-stripped-lower-ar-receivers-but.8620/
https://palmettostatearmory.com/ar-1...ifle-kits.html
https://www.primaryarms.com/MCategor...-15-Rifle-Kits
https://thundertactical.com/product-...56-rifle-kits/
https://www.del-ton.com/ar-15-rifle-kits-s/1.htm
https://shop.wisearms.com/ar-15/rifle-kits/
https://www.80-lower.com/collections/ar-15-rifle-kits/
https://www.ar15part.com/AR-15-Compl...its-s/1947.htm
https://blackrifledepot.com/rifle-kits/
the AR15 platform is an adult erector set, you can within,
reasonable limits make or assemble hundreds of different combos
in barrel type, barrel length, types of stocks, and calibers, other components.
just do some research and ask LOTS of questions!
someplace will have exactly what you want at a semi-reasonable price if you shop carefully,
buy a complete kit with the parts you want, minus the lower receiver,
buy a stripped lower, and look over the internet for assembly tools and instructions,
or dump the kit at a local gunsmith for him to complete the combo that contains exactly the components that YOU WANT
most larger gunshops will gladly assembly a kit for you at a semi-reasonable cost
(generally well under $150 if you supply all the parts)
best advice don,t pinch pennies and ask lots of questions, before you purchase a kit, and
buy a complete matched component kit from a single well-known source
that will ship you an assembled upper receiver and the parts to assemble your lower receiver
http://garage.grumpysperformance.co...-buying-stripped-lower-ar-receivers-but.8620/
The funny thing and I'm sure I'm not alone....you do all your research....figure out what you want, put it together....and whether 1 day, 1 month, 1 year later, you're like, oh I should've done this...or put this on it....so then you're ready for your 2nd build! ha.
Corona....definitely had a run on guns....they'll resupply when they can.... until then some stuff may be sold out etc...
My quick advice to any new ar15 build is....get a 16" barrel, w/ mid length gas system in 5.56
unless you specifically need something else....for a certain reason, that is a sweet do all set up!
good luck!
06-30-2020, 10:23 AM
#10
Super Moderator
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: texas
Posts: 1,190
while I'm sure this is true for several vendors,
there are AR15 combos built to be low cost entry weapons ,
and carefully thought out custom parts assemblies built to provide the owner with a rifle far above average quality,
parts like stainless fluted bull barrel assemblies in various lengths and twist rates andNICKEL BORON bolt assemblies, target sights,
and
I ordered a complete kit minus the stripped lower with my choice of components from these guys,
and I thought I got a decent deal
I then purchased a stripped lower from a local gun shop who both
assembled the lower and did the paperwork local laws required.
keep in mind youll seldom get top quality components at bargain prices,
look over your options carefully and you might be amazed at how carefully selecting the top quality components,
while they tend to be more expensive, also makes the finished assembly more accurate, potentially much higher durability,
and something youll never see offered at most gun shops off the shelf.
if your going to pay decent money you may as well custom build exactly what you want with very good quality components,
https://www.model1sales.com/images/m1_cat09.pdf
there are AR15 combos built to be low cost entry weapons ,
and carefully thought out custom parts assemblies built to provide the owner with a rifle far above average quality,
parts like stainless fluted bull barrel assemblies in various lengths and twist rates and
NICKEL BORON bolt assemblies, target sights,
muzzle brakes, fore arms,are not generally available in off the shelf rifles
and
I ordered a complete kit minus the stripped lower with my choice of components from these guys,
and I thought I got a decent deal
I then purchased a stripped lower from a local gun shop who both
assembled the lower and did the paperwork local laws required.
keep in mind youll seldom get top quality components at bargain prices,
look over your options carefully and you might be amazed at how carefully selecting the top quality components,
while they tend to be more expensive, also makes the finished assembly more accurate, potentially much higher durability,
and something youll never see offered at most gun shops off the shelf.
if your going to pay decent money you may as well custom build exactly what you want with very good quality components,
https://www.model1sales.com/images/m1_cat09.pdf
Last edited by hardcastonly; 06-30-2020 at 10:58 AM.
