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Rem. Sendero
Hey, does anyone have or have opinions of the 300 Win Mag as far as hunting rifle is concerned?
Just looking at one and would appreciate some in put and is around 800 a good price for it new? THANKS in advance for the help. Thanks Again, Hhardrock |
good accurate rifle and decent caliber for all big game
BUT my question to you would be, what type of hunting are you planning to do, where at as well! as this is a heavy barrel rifle, and a lot of extra weight, if you plan to do a lot of walking and if only deer hunting, a 300 win mag is a LOT of caliber for just shooting deer with t? do you really need this much rifle?? its targeted at those that wish to shoot more at distance than just plain deer hunting! I personally own many rem 700 action rifles with heavy barrels in many configurations and calibers, and seldom use any for 99% of the hunting I do LOL I like smaller lighter rifles , got older and got smarter, and I can shoot very well with lighter smaller trifles at all distances I wish to hunt at! NOT bashing this rifle either, there GREAT rifles IMO! just asking if you need that much rifle or not? as for price , is this a sendero II or just the standard one? but 800 seems a fair price to me for a standard, and would be a great price if a II |
Originally Posted by mrbb
(Post 4354813)
good accurate rifle and decent caliber for all big game
BUT my question to you would be, what type of hunting are you planning to do, where at as well! as this is a heavy barrel rifle, and a lot of extra weight, if you plan to do a lot of walking and if only deer hunting, a 300 win mag is a LOT of caliber for just shooting deer with t? do you really need this much rifle?? its targeted at those that wish to shoot more at distance than just plain deer hunting! I personally own many rem 700 action rifles with heavy barrels in many configurations and calibers, and seldom use any for 99% of the hunting I do LOL I like smaller lighter rifles , got older and got smarter, and I can shoot very well with lighter smaller trifles at all distances I wish to hunt at! NOT bashing this rifle either, there GREAT rifles IMO! just asking if you need that much rifle or not? as for price , is this a sendero II or just the standard one? but 800 seems a fair price to me for a standard, and would be a great price if a II |
Hey Mrbb, I look forward to all your comments as you have given me a good few in the talks we've had and comments on the board.
I was a little taken back by the weight but my 7MM is only 1-2 pounds lighter, and packing it around in Mont. hasn't been to bad but there again I'm not getting any younger( sometimes seems like not any smarter). I (they burnt the school down to get me out of third grade) was just kicking the idea around for the new scope which needs a new home to sit on. I'm not really sure about going to the 300wm as I really have a very good sense of the 7mm I'm shooting now and haven't talked myself into the 300 as I think the 7mm will do all that the 300 can do in my hunting areas in Mont. Thanks for your advise and I may just pass on the 300 but I'm going back to the show to spend a little more time looking at it and a couple of other rifles, as usual I shall return for updates(ing). Thanks, Hhardrock |
mrbb gave you good advise,and yes if your only hunting deer , even at extended ranges,
the 7mm mag with proper ammo, (generally 154-170 grain bullets) in that rifle will certainly be adequate I know two people that own remington sendaro rifles , both are very accurate, but I'd point out almost every deer or elk anyone, in the hunt club I belong too, has shot in the last 5 decades, was killed at under 250 yards, most of the guys I've spent decades hunting with, have tried the various 300 mag rifles at one time, no one I know has ever found them wanting in lethality or accuracy, if they were loaded with a decent projectile, and the rifle was properly bedded and sighted in. that being stated, the 270 win, and 35 whelen both seem to be a more popular choice's with the older guys I hunt with. If you have some spare cash, and want to enhance longer range accuracy, maybe upgraded optics would be an option, example https://www.midwayusa.com/product/62...-reticle-matte if you want more power than a 7mm mag , a 300 mag is certainly a good choice, but if your looking for more punch, ,Id suggest jumping past the 30 caliber to a 338-340 caliber rifle |
For your intended use I don't think that you would gain anything by going to a .300 win mag over a 7mm mag
-Jake |
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honestly IMO< if your planning to get into long range shooting/hunting, this rifle is ideal for this and is a awesome longer range rifle , the weight will be there but is a benefit when shooting afar and this caliber IMO is a better one for far out there than the 7 mm mag, , there is SO much data on this caliber as having been used in military for so many yrs for long range work, data and load and bullets options are endless NOT bashing the 7mm mag, its a great caliber, but if I was planning to shoot far, between these calibers, the 300 win mag wins hands down (I'd prefer a 300 ultra mag myself LOL ) but its hard to beat a 300 mag again due to its history and info on it for afar shooting. ammo is about every where for it too if ever needed, brass is easy to find as well(and cheaper than a 300 ultra mag too ) but if your planning again to shoot afar, 500+ yards or more, this is a GREAT rifle to get started with, you will NOT be disappointed IMO with it, at 800 bucks, its NOT cheap again unless its the II, version of it, , but 800 isn't bad finding a good used one shouldn;t be that hard , if you look, and could save you 300+ bucks for just a rifle in the sendero model!, and odds are very few people ever shoot a rifle all that much to wear one out, heck most used rifles like this, you'd be lucky if the old owner shot a 100 rounds out of them IF that! LOL back when I sold guns, I used to HEAR all the plans so many had when buying a rifle, , planned to shoot it a LOT, get into long range and or planning trips out west, and then a few yrs later be selling me back the rifle almost new in the box yet LOL as life so many times gets in the way and all them plans, well , never turn out as planned ! |
Unless I missed it, he never said that he was trying to shoot 500+.
I've never owned a 7mm mag although I've had a few to play with that were borrowed. I've owned several .300win mags. For a basic hunting rifle, which is what the first post stated, I don't see any real world advantage in switching. Of course, if you're just itching to buy something I'd say go for it. The senderos are nice rifles. -Jake |
Originally Posted by Bocajnala
(Post 4354848)
Unless I missed it, he never said that he was trying to shoot 500+.
I've never owned a 7mm mag although I've had a few to play with that were borrowed. I've owned several .300win mags. For a basic hunting rifle, which is what the first post stated, I don't see any real world advantage in switching. Of course, if you're just itching to buy something I'd say go for it. The senderos are nice rifles. -Jake I forgot it when I posted my first post here in this topic/ SO I added the second post to maybe help a little more in that area! even says he has a friend now with a range out to 800 yards so, that being a PLAN of his(maybe) this rifle would be again , a great platform for shooting long large like that! and a good caliber as well for it! NOW if all he wants to do again is shoot deer, its a little over kill IMO!~ LOL |
Hey All,
I passed on the Sendero, as it was at the gun show but the weight bothered me a little. We hunt Mont. taking deer, elk and we have shot a couple of bears(son has). The 300 will be topped with the new Athlon scope I bought and depending on how the long practice goes I may do more of that when not hunting. I really appreciate all the opinions and help as Mr.bb and I have talked a few times and I know all opinions and comments are meant well. Thanks again for the help and will update when the new rifle is obtained. hhardrock |
Originally Posted by Hhardrockminer
(Post 4354901)
Hey All,
I passed on the Sendero, as it was at the gun show but the weight bothered me a little. We hunt Mont. taking deer, elk and we have shot a couple of bears(son has). The 300 will be topped with the new Athlon scope I bought and depending on how the long practice goes I may do more of that when not hunting. I really appreciate all the opinions and help as Mr.bb and I have talked a few times and I know all opinions and comments are meant well. Thanks again for the help and will update when the new rifle is obtained. hhardrock the weight and longer barrels are there to make shooing long easier, as weight an be your friend when shooting afar maybe not fun to carry while hunting LOL but has its advantaged when learning to shoot farther out there not saying lighter rifles don;t shoot well far, as some do very well, and there are many very accurate light weight rifles and many custom rifle makers that make em! but to Learn how to shoot far, having a rifle MADE for it, makes learning easier IMO and there are few better platforms to learn on than a rem 700 action rifle! |
A Sendero in 7mm RM was my first long range deer and elk rifles. I was young enough - and still am, even though nearly 20yrs have passed - to happily carry a minimalist pack and a heavier rifle for longer shots. These years later, I favor a 300wm over a 7RM - and in 2019, I’m not sure I’d buy either as my first choice. |
Hey,
Just pulled the trigger on a new Bergara B14 300wm, I hope I made the right choice as I haven't much knowledge of the Bergara rifle. I was close to doing a deal for a Howa 1500 when the man asked if I'd consider the Bergara, it seemed like a good fit compared to the Howa and the price was not much different than the Howa. Under 700 so we put the Athlon on it and its sitting there waiting to go for a good outing Sat. I hope if the weather liars are right. Thanks to all and any comments or thoughts on the rifle would be very much appreciated. Hhardrock |
well congrats to you on a fine rifle
I have never shot one of these rifles, but have heard very good things about them and they been making great barrels for a long time, so no reason there guns shouldn;t be very accurate rifles! and I like the fact they take rem scope base, makes for a lot of options then for you! and don't forget to post some pic's if you like and come back and tell us how you like it and how it shoots |
No experience with those, but I have read some positive things.
-Jake |
In a manner of speaking, the upgrade features of the Bergara 700 clones make them everything a production 700 should be. Most Rem 700’s still shoot phenomenally, but the Bergaras tend to match them, so the other features and the company reputations/legacies become the real deciding factors. For reputation, both can turn out lemons, both can turn out diamonds, and both have tolerance stacking opportunities in between - some folks might act like the Bergara is a custom or blueprinted action, but it’s really just another production action, not immune to manufacturing tolerances. For Legacy, the Remington brand won’t go away, and it’s large enough and worth enough that it will be here as long as firearms are here, and can only really be bought by someone who is savvy enough to be good stewards of the brand. Say what you will about Remington’s QC in recent years, it is following industry average and consumer tolerance trends, but they DO have as good of customer service and support as anyone in the game. If they sell again in the future, that will likely remain true, just as it has for Savage, Winchester, and Remington as they’ve all restructured multiple times. Bergara, on the other hand, doesn’t have that history and an ownership change might mean a tidal shift in quality and/or product support - they’re far more vulnerable to this type of business redirection than Remington. But all of that really only matters if you need customer customer service support. The Bergara has better design features you’d be spending money to modify into a Rem 700. As long as you’re vetting the rifle NOW, proving out it doesn’t have any manufacturing defects, and fixing NOW what may ail your new rifle, then the distant future doesn’t really matter. You’ll get to enjoy a better extractor design NOW, enjoy a better trigger NOW, enjoy a better stock NOW, and enjoy a great shooting rifle NOW. Spending over about $800, I don’t bother with factory rifles at all, but between the two, for a working hunting rifle, I’d rather have the Bergara. |
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