What type of gun is an AK 47?
04-23-2018, 03:53 AM
#2
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Tennessee
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A rifle, meaning its barrel has grooves inside it that "spin" the bullet, to stabilize it in flight.
It is a magazine-fed rifle, since the ammunition enters the action (where the mechanisms for firing and loading the gun are) from a magazine, in this case, a detachable one.
Whether or not it is an "assault rifle" depends on whether the rifle has a "select fire" option. That is, the user may choose between fully automatic fire (continues firing as long as the trigger is pulled) or semi-automatic fire (fires only once, each time the trigger is pulled). Most civilian models of the AK-47 in countries like the US are only semi-automatic. In either case, the user only has to manually chamber the first round; the rifle is designed to capture some of the hot gases from each shot to operate the action.
Are you looking for a rifle to hunt with in India? I'd consider something other than an AK-47, since the cartridge (7.62x39 Soviet) does not have great ballistics beyond short ranges.
It is a magazine-fed rifle, since the ammunition enters the action (where the mechanisms for firing and loading the gun are) from a magazine, in this case, a detachable one.
Whether or not it is an "assault rifle" depends on whether the rifle has a "select fire" option. That is, the user may choose between fully automatic fire (continues firing as long as the trigger is pulled) or semi-automatic fire (fires only once, each time the trigger is pulled). Most civilian models of the AK-47 in countries like the US are only semi-automatic. In either case, the user only has to manually chamber the first round; the rifle is designed to capture some of the hot gases from each shot to operate the action.
Are you looking for a rifle to hunt with in India? I'd consider something other than an AK-47, since the cartridge (7.62x39 Soviet) does not have great ballistics beyond short ranges.
04-23-2018, 06:22 AM
#3
Nontypical Buck
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The Germans would call it a carbine, recoil loading, machine rifle. A sporting model is semi automatic, a military model can fire full automatic.
They fall somewhere in the middle as far as rifles go, not the biggest or fastest round, not the slowest or smallest round. It has a slightly larger bullet and maybe 20% more velocity than an American M-1 Carbine.
The AK 47 is mostly famous for it's reliability, it can take a lot of abuse, rust, dust, mud or whatever and keep on working. It's reliability is due in large part to the shape of the cartridge case, the cartridge case is slightly wedge shaped.
A bit marginal for larger game, OK for Roe Deer or Hog Deer.
They fall somewhere in the middle as far as rifles go, not the biggest or fastest round, not the slowest or smallest round. It has a slightly larger bullet and maybe 20% more velocity than an American M-1 Carbine.
The AK 47 is mostly famous for it's reliability, it can take a lot of abuse, rust, dust, mud or whatever and keep on working. It's reliability is due in large part to the shape of the cartridge case, the cartridge case is slightly wedge shaped.
A bit marginal for larger game, OK for Roe Deer or Hog Deer.
04-23-2018, 07:18 AM
#5
Nontypical Buck
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Very possible, bronko22000. But there's no reason we should let anyone else but us lay out the facts. Too often, people predicate their gun control arguments on absurd inaccuracies (no pun intended) about how certain guns work.
The fact is, there's nothing sinister about any rifle, much less a civilian sporting one. Every kind of item has some sort of person that shouldn't possess it---radicalized sympathizers with actively-violent terror organizations shouldn't have cars, deathly-allergic people shouldn't have peanuts, and people who are suicidal, criminals, and domestic abusers really shouldn't have guns.
Some want a nanny police state to make such prohibitions happen---the UK (especially the City of London) is increasingly the poster child for such an absurd disposition. But sensible people realize this is just about the least optimal way to go about it from the standpoint of effectiveness, to say nothing about protecting civil liberties. Each issue should be examined on its own, instead of being another area for copying-and-pasting a reactionary disposition.
Gun control is absurd because it has nothing to do with prevention, only dubious attempts to lessen lethality of shootings. But the fact is it takes shootings as a given, which is silly. Debates should be over who gets to procure any gun, and how we should go about enforcing that, not limiting all purchasers to only certain types of firearms.
The fact is, there's nothing sinister about any rifle, much less a civilian sporting one. Every kind of item has some sort of person that shouldn't possess it---radicalized sympathizers with actively-violent terror organizations shouldn't have cars, deathly-allergic people shouldn't have peanuts, and people who are suicidal, criminals, and domestic abusers really shouldn't have guns.
Some want a nanny police state to make such prohibitions happen---the UK (especially the City of London) is increasingly the poster child for such an absurd disposition. But sensible people realize this is just about the least optimal way to go about it from the standpoint of effectiveness, to say nothing about protecting civil liberties. Each issue should be examined on its own, instead of being another area for copying-and-pasting a reactionary disposition.
Gun control is absurd because it has nothing to do with prevention, only dubious attempts to lessen lethality of shootings. But the fact is it takes shootings as a given, which is silly. Debates should be over who gets to procure any gun, and how we should go about enforcing that, not limiting all purchasers to only certain types of firearms.
04-23-2018, 10:00 AM
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Bronko got it. This guy is a spammer who doesn't care what you post or about gun laws as he's from India and just wants to advertise in this forum which is against the rules. If you like seeing spam and additional advertising in the forums, this is a way to promote it. The OP has been permabanned but this topic is left up which means this guy's stuff will still be accessible through an internet search.
04-23-2018, 07:18 PM
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The direct answer is nothing--he's not looking for customers from HNI members. The long answer (more detail) is as follows:
It's part of a spam problem HNI has been dealing with. Spammers join HNI (it's free) and then begin posting innocuous or nonsense comments with links in their signature and oft times nonsense links in their posts that purport to be relevant to the topic (but often aren't). It's against the rules and they get permabanned but they're okay with that.
If somebody does a web search on the topic, the spammer's profile is still active and can draw attention to them and their website. Admin has been removing spammer profiles as fast as we report them (mods don't have authority to delete profiles). It's a lot more work for mods and Admin but it removes a lot of the spam and also removes a certain amount of the incentive for spammers to post spam on HNI.
It's not perfect and it certainly doesn't stop all spam (obviously). When you guys respond to these spammers, it's essentially frosting on the cake for them. Your responses make the topic seem like it's a legit one if a mod (or Admin) does a new post search and thus makes it harder to find unless one of us happens to read that particular topic (we don't have time to read all topics) or somebody reports it with a complaint ticket.
I've already reported this permabanned spammer to admin so they can remove his profile. I've left this topic up so people can see for themselves some of what these spammers are up to.
It's part of a spam problem HNI has been dealing with. Spammers join HNI (it's free) and then begin posting innocuous or nonsense comments with links in their signature and oft times nonsense links in their posts that purport to be relevant to the topic (but often aren't). It's against the rules and they get permabanned but they're okay with that.
If somebody does a web search on the topic, the spammer's profile is still active and can draw attention to them and their website. Admin has been removing spammer profiles as fast as we report them (mods don't have authority to delete profiles). It's a lot more work for mods and Admin but it removes a lot of the spam and also removes a certain amount of the incentive for spammers to post spam on HNI.
It's not perfect and it certainly doesn't stop all spam (obviously). When you guys respond to these spammers, it's essentially frosting on the cake for them. Your responses make the topic seem like it's a legit one if a mod (or Admin) does a new post search and thus makes it harder to find unless one of us happens to read that particular topic (we don't have time to read all topics) or somebody reports it with a complaint ticket.
I've already reported this permabanned spammer to admin so they can remove his profile. I've left this topic up so people can see for themselves some of what these spammers are up to.
05-29-2018, 07:36 AM
#10
Spike
Join Date: May 2018
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First of all, THERE IS NO AK-47 RIFFLES. There is only AK, without "47". The first AK model was created in 1947, GRAU index 56-A-212, in service from 1951 to 1974 (the next 5.45mm model AK-74 was created in 1974).
And as said in GRAU (The Main Missile and Artillery Directorate of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation), AK is an assault riffle or an automatic carbine riffle.
And as said in GRAU (The Main Missile and Artillery Directorate of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation), AK is an assault riffle or an automatic carbine riffle.