6.5 Creedmoor Rifle
12-03-2016, 07:30 PM
#23
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Kansas
Posts: 3,902
Couple hundred fps slower, but less powder, Lapua brass, and fits in a short action without needing to cram longer bullets down into the powder space. Take your pick as to whether anything but the brass is a "real advantage" to you or not.
It's not magic, and doesn't really do anything a dozen other cartridges before it didn't do, but it's the hot new thing, the talk of the town. When it falls short of a more powerful cartridge, the guys get to say the barrel life is better and recoil is less, when it matches an existing cartridge, guys get to say it truly fits in a short action, when it recoils more than a .243AI or 6br, they say it bucks the wind better... Always something it does better for everything it does worse.
I wanted an excuse to buy a Ruger Precision Rifle (guilty pleasure - like riding a motor scooter), but didn't want another 308 or 243. Doesn't do anything my 260, 280, 7-08, Swede, 7maus, or even really my 243AI don't do, and doesn't keep up with a handful of them - the 280, 7maus and x55, 7wsm, 7rm, etc... Would have bought a 7-08 RPR with glee. Would still kinda like to have one in .300wm, or maybe even 338LM or 338-300.
It's not magic, and doesn't really do anything a dozen other cartridges before it didn't do, but it's the hot new thing, the talk of the town. When it falls short of a more powerful cartridge, the guys get to say the barrel life is better and recoil is less, when it matches an existing cartridge, guys get to say it truly fits in a short action, when it recoils more than a .243AI or 6br, they say it bucks the wind better... Always something it does better for everything it does worse.
I wanted an excuse to buy a Ruger Precision Rifle (guilty pleasure - like riding a motor scooter), but didn't want another 308 or 243. Doesn't do anything my 260, 280, 7-08, Swede, 7maus, or even really my 243AI don't do, and doesn't keep up with a handful of them - the 280, 7maus and x55, 7wsm, 7rm, etc... Would have bought a 7-08 RPR with glee. Would still kinda like to have one in .300wm, or maybe even 338LM or 338-300.
12-03-2016, 08:19 PM
#24
Fork Horn
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Knee Deep in FL Muck
Posts: 286
Couple hundred fps slower, but less powder, Lapua brass, and fits in a short action without needing to cram longer bullets down into the powder space. Take your pick as to whether anything but the brass is a "real advantage" to you or not.
It's not magic, and doesn't really do anything a dozen other cartridges before it didn't do, but it's the hot new thing, the talk of the town. When it falls short of a more powerful cartridge, the guys get to say the barrel life is better and recoil is less, when it matches an existing cartridge, guys get to say it truly fits in a short action, when it recoils more than a .243AI or 6br, they say it bucks the wind better... Always something it does better for everything it does worse.
I wanted an excuse to buy a Ruger Precision Rifle (guilty pleasure - like riding a motor scooter), but didn't want another 308 or 243. Doesn't do anything my 260, 280, 7-08, Swede, 7maus, or even really my 243AI don't do, and doesn't keep up with a handful of them - the 280, 7maus and x55, 7wsm, 7rm, etc... Would have bought a 7-08 RPR with glee. Would still kinda like to have one in .300wm, or maybe even 338LM or 338-300.
It's not magic, and doesn't really do anything a dozen other cartridges before it didn't do, but it's the hot new thing, the talk of the town. When it falls short of a more powerful cartridge, the guys get to say the barrel life is better and recoil is less, when it matches an existing cartridge, guys get to say it truly fits in a short action, when it recoils more than a .243AI or 6br, they say it bucks the wind better... Always something it does better for everything it does worse.
I wanted an excuse to buy a Ruger Precision Rifle (guilty pleasure - like riding a motor scooter), but didn't want another 308 or 243. Doesn't do anything my 260, 280, 7-08, Swede, 7maus, or even really my 243AI don't do, and doesn't keep up with a handful of them - the 280, 7maus and x55, 7wsm, 7rm, etc... Would have bought a 7-08 RPR with glee. Would still kinda like to have one in .300wm, or maybe even 338LM or 338-300.
12-04-2016, 03:18 AM
#25
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Texas
Posts: 2,695
not in ballistics or killing power, the swede the 260 and the creed are ballisticaly triplets. looking at the nosler reloading manual, the swede is showing about 50fps faster but doing it with 10 gr more powder. but some say the creed is inherently more accurate with its case design.
Last edited by zrexpilot; 12-04-2016 at 03:24 AM.
12-04-2016, 05:41 AM
#26
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: ****ifornia
Posts: 5,052
not in ballistics or killing power, the swede the 260 and the creed are ballisticaly triplets. looking at the nosler reloading manual, the swede is showing about 50fps faster but doing it with 10 gr more powder. but some say the creed is inherently more accurate with its case design.
I wouldn't mind a .22 Creed, now that might be a winner!
12-04-2016, 06:10 AM
#27
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Eastern wv
Posts: 3,646
numbers from hodgdon data
6.5 creed 140 gr 2555 fps @60,400 PSI
260 140 gr 2677 fps @58,400 PSI
6.5x55 140 gr 2517 @45,700 PSI
SAAMI specs for the 6.5x55 are lower due to older military rifles it came chambered in, its been known for a long while that in modern firearms loaded to max pressures in that firearm it will run away from the 260, and badly trounce the creed. there is no magic in efficiency, the faster you run a bullet the more powder it requires, its not possible for less powder in a smaller case to make more velocity with the same weight bullet
RR
Adam, a 22 creed would be almost exactly a 22-250 AI, be a decent rifle in an 8 twist, I would prefer the 22/6mm AI even though ya need a long action
6.5 creed 140 gr 2555 fps @60,400 PSI
260 140 gr 2677 fps @58,400 PSI
6.5x55 140 gr 2517 @45,700 PSI
SAAMI specs for the 6.5x55 are lower due to older military rifles it came chambered in, its been known for a long while that in modern firearms loaded to max pressures in that firearm it will run away from the 260, and badly trounce the creed. there is no magic in efficiency, the faster you run a bullet the more powder it requires, its not possible for less powder in a smaller case to make more velocity with the same weight bullet
RR
Adam, a 22 creed would be almost exactly a 22-250 AI, be a decent rifle in an 8 twist, I would prefer the 22/6mm AI even though ya need a long action
Last edited by Ridge Runner; 12-04-2016 at 06:18 AM.
12-04-2016, 07:13 AM
#29
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Texas
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