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Cabela's
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It's not just their policy, it is a FEDERAL LAW. It matters not if you are beyond a legal limit. If they can smell alcohol on your breath, they can not, by penalty of imprisonment, sell you a firearm. Point blank and period. Had I been at the counter you would have been told that very same thing. As would anyone else on this forum. Have to say, your creating an account and making a negative post is not the way to start out on this forum. Especially when you are 100% in the wrong.
Edit to add: To clarify this for you, under federal law, it is illegal to sell a firearm to anyone that appears to be under the influence of an intoxicating substance. Now, the feds don't expect sales folks to keep a breathalizer under the counter so they just made it simple. 0 tolerance period. If they smell alcohol, by law, they have to deny sale. It's pretty straight forward. Just because YOU can handle a "couple of beers" doesn't mean everyone else can. How was that sales person supposed to know whether or not your "couple of beers" wasn't a couple of pitchers? Back when I drank, I could drink 3 full pitchers of beer and you or anyone else couldn't tell from my speech or body movements that I had drank a single drop. But if I hit the breathalizer, you can bet I'd blow over the limit! |
It pays to carry some mouth wash if your going to have a beer of shot before shopping for a gun.
Personally I would have shopped first then had lunch. :D Al |
Did he seriously try to buy a gun while drunk and then get mad when they didn't sell him one? :rolleye0011:
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He was obviously way to high to begin with - LOL !!!
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:busted::guiness::busted::violin:
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Originally Posted by TN Lone Wolf
(Post 4271766)
Did he seriously try to buy a gun while drunk and then get mad when they didn't sell him one? :rolleye0011:
Second, if I had been HIGH they would not have know. I don't really need any dimwits to say something that was not truthful. Third, I am opiate dependent thanks to the medical profession. So, would you then expect me to quit hunting. I believe the ADA would argue in my favor being disabled, and a veteran. Fourth, get your terminology straight. There is a difference between drunk and 2 beers. Just for everyone's knowledge for future reference. High, is a drug induced state. 2 beers, is not drunk!!! HIGH, these days is a rather relative and subjective word. Also, the mouthwash trick won't work either, that is mostly alcohol. |
Alleyyooper, what part of the U.P. you from??? I am from the Iron River area.
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Originally Posted by MXB360
(Post 4271938)
First off, I was not drunk!!!!!!!!!!!
Second, if I had been HIGH they would not have know. I don't really need any dimwits to say something that was not truthful. Third, I am opiate dependent thanks to the medical profession. So, would you then expect me to quit hunting. I believe the ADA would argue in my favor being disabled, and a veteran. Fourth, get your terminology straight. There is a difference between drunk and 2 beers. Just for everyone's knowledge for future reference. High, is a drug induced state. 2 beers, is not drunk!!! HIGH, these days is a rather relative and subjective word. Also, the mouthwash trick won't work either, that is mostly alcohol. |
Rapid River.
You didn't say you were given a breathalyzer test. Mouth wash smells different than beer. Think I would just leave things as they are, Your not winning any friends or influencing any one either. :D Al |
:party0005::party0005:
now let's go to the gun shop. |
Originally Posted by alleyyooper
(Post 4271964)
Rapid River.
You didn't say you were given a breathalyzer test. Mouth wash smells different than beer. Think I would just leave things as they are, Your not winning any friends or influencing any one either. :D Al I do deeply apologies to all members on the forum. I would rather be friend than foe. Now....Rapid River, I spent 3 years in Escanaba at Bay College to get my degree. I loved that area with the lake right there. I lived in Perronville for 2 years. I would leave for school in the morning and in the evening coming home I seen some beautiful bucks in the area. |
Originally Posted by uncle matt
(Post 4272028)
:party0005::party0005:
now let's go to the gun shop. |
Originally Posted by MXB360
(Post 4272029)
I am hoping that a person does not have to submit to a urinalysis test before buying a weapon.
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Very true Champlain Islander. Guess the best bet is to get your guns of choice before the election. At least that way there you already have them. I don't really think they will take away any guns, but, the assault weapon ban will surely come up. When Bill Clinton signed the one that he did in the 90's, the one's already owned were grandfathered in. Hold on to what AR's a person has because the price will double on the private market for them.
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Yup and watch the ammo get scarce and expensive again.
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Originally Posted by Champlain Islander
(Post 4272044)
Yup and watch the ammo get scarce and expensive again.
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Originally Posted by super_hunt54
(Post 4272048)
And yet ANOTHER reason for reloading!!! I have enough components and powder to last me the rest of me life if need be. (I'm old so probably more than enough) :D
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Rapid River is on the north east shore of Little Bay DeNoc. We launch the boat at hunters point launch. Getting the boat in isn't bad and lots of parking in the lot. A dock would be nice how ever.
I always liked the small gun shops my self, never cared for the box stores, consider Wally world better than the box stores. Stock's Gun Shop Rapid River, MI 8495 S Lakeside T.5 Dr Rapid River MI 49878-9233 (906) 474-6803 M & C Gun Shop Rapid River, MI 10484 U.25 Rd Rapid River MI 49878-9572 (906) 474-9279 D & D Guns Cornell, MI 9081 County 416 H Rd Cornell MI 49818-9112 (906) 384-6853 U P Hunter's Gunsmithing Powers, MI N14902 County Road 566 Powers MI 49874-9682 (906) 497-5576 The Shooter Shop 2515 Lakeshore Dr Escanaba, MI 49829 Phone: (906) 786-3771 Outlaw Shooters Supply 4946 M 5 Lane Escanaba, MI 49829 Phone: (906) 786-5812 Dunham's Discount Sports #9083 Delta Plaza 301 N Lincoln Rd Escanaba, MI 49829 Phone: (810) 674-4991 Used to be a nice place in the Ludington plaza for buying firearms and reloading supplies. They closed about 2001. GM Marquette put them out. :D Al |
Quick update:
Contacted Cabelas about my experience. They are in the process of investigating the situation after I wrote and told them about my experience. They told me regardless of alcohol on my breath they had no reason to shame me like they did in front of people. So will see what happens I guess. Guess they are not allowed to blurt it out so loud that all can hear, and make me stand at the counter for 15 minutes, and keep telling me I will be right there. |
Originally Posted by MXB360
(Post 4272033)
Very true Champlain Islander. Guess the best bet is to get your guns of choice before the election. At least that way there you already have them. I don't really think they will take away any guns, but, the assault weapon ban will surely come up. When Bill Clinton signed the one that he did in the 90's, the one's already owned were grandfathered in. Hold on to what AR's a person has because the price will double on the private market for them.
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Originally Posted by MXB360
(Post 4272033)
I don't really think they will take away any guns, but, the assault weapon ban will surely come up.
It has been getting closer with each election! We are only ONE SCOTUS Justice away from ditching the 2nd. Amendment and having an American gun BAN! I'm sure there were many people in the U.K., Australia and Canada that didn't think it would happen either! I sincerely hope I never have to say, "I told you so!!!!!" |
As a business they have the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason. But in that process they shouldn't be able to embarrass or belittle anyone. Some employees don't know how to handle some situations and handle them poorly. But I would expect cabelas to look into it. And if someone there was wrong they will try an make it up to you
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Originally Posted by super_hunt54
(Post 4271758)
It's not just their policy, it is a FEDERAL LAW. It matters not if you are beyond a legal limit. If they can smell alcohol on your breath, they can not, by penalty of imprisonment, sell you a firearm. Point blank and period. Had I been at the counter you would have been told that very same thing. As would anyone else on this forum. Have to say, your creating an account and making a negative post is not the way to start out on this forum. Especially when you are 100% in the wrong.
Edit to add: To clarify this for you, under federal law, it is illegal to sell a firearm to anyone that appears to be under the influence of an intoxicating substance. Now, the feds don't expect sales folks to keep a breathalizer under the counter so they just made it simple. 0 tolerance period. If they smell alcohol, by law, they have to deny sale. It's pretty straight forward. Just because YOU can handle a "couple of beers" doesn't mean everyone else can. How was that sales person supposed to know whether or not your "couple of beers" wasn't a couple of pitchers? Back when I drank, I could drink 3 full pitchers of beer and you or anyone else couldn't tell from my speech or body movements that I had drank a single drop. But if I hit the breathalizer, you can bet I'd blow over the limit! |
Sec. 10-9-50. - Selling weapons to intoxicated persons. (a) It is a Class A municipal offense for any person to knowingly purchase, sell, loan or furnish a gun, pistol or other firearm in which any explosive substance can be used, to any person under the influence of alcohol or of a controlled substance, as defined in Section 12-22-303(7), C.R.S., to any person in a condition of agitation or excitability, or to any minor under the age of eighteen (18) years. (b) Any such unlawful purchase, sale, loan or furnishing of a weapon shall be grounds for the revocation of any license issued by the City to such person. (Prior code 13.12.150; Ord. 4 §1, 2005) |
Originally Posted by MXB360
(Post 4272952)
Quick update:
Contacted Cabelas about my experience. They are in the process of investigating the situation after I wrote and told them about my experience. They told me regardless of alcohol on my breath they had no reason to shame me like they did in front of people. So will see what happens I guess. Guess they are not allowed to blurt it out so loud that all can hear, and make me stand at the counter for 15 minutes, and keep telling me I will be right there. |
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