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MXB360 09-03-2016 09:19 PM

Cabela's
 
....Edited by Champlain Islander...

super_hunt54 09-03-2016 10:50 PM

It's not just their policy, it is a FEDERAL LAW. It matters not if you are beyond a legal limit. If they can smell alcohol on your breath, they can not, by penalty of imprisonment, sell you a firearm. Point blank and period. Had I been at the counter you would have been told that very same thing. As would anyone else on this forum. Have to say, your creating an account and making a negative post is not the way to start out on this forum. Especially when you are 100% in the wrong.

Edit to add: To clarify this for you, under federal law, it is illegal to sell a firearm to anyone that appears to be under the influence of an intoxicating substance. Now, the feds don't expect sales folks to keep a breathalizer under the counter so they just made it simple. 0 tolerance period. If they smell alcohol, by law, they have to deny sale. It's pretty straight forward. Just because YOU can handle a "couple of beers" doesn't mean everyone else can. How was that sales person supposed to know whether or not your "couple of beers" wasn't a couple of pitchers? Back when I drank, I could drink 3 full pitchers of beer and you or anyone else couldn't tell from my speech or body movements that I had drank a single drop. But if I hit the breathalizer, you can bet I'd blow over the limit!

alleyyooper 09-04-2016 02:50 AM

It pays to carry some mouth wash if your going to have a beer of shot before shopping for a gun.
Personally I would have shopped first then had lunch.


:D Al

TN Lone Wolf 09-04-2016 04:53 AM

Did he seriously try to buy a gun while drunk and then get mad when they didn't sell him one? :rolleye0011:

Sheridan 09-04-2016 05:26 PM

He was obviously way to high to begin with - LOL !!!

GOOD OLE BOY 09-04-2016 05:53 PM

:busted::guiness::busted::violin:

MXB360 09-05-2016 08:18 PM


Originally Posted by TN Lone Wolf (Post 4271766)
Did he seriously try to buy a gun while drunk and then get mad when they didn't sell him one? :rolleye0011:

First off, I was not drunk!!!!!!!!!!!

Second, if I had been HIGH they would not have know. I don't really need any dimwits to say something that was not truthful.

Third, I am opiate dependent thanks to the medical profession. So, would you then expect me to quit hunting. I believe the ADA would argue in my favor being disabled, and a veteran.

Fourth, get your terminology straight. There is a difference between drunk and 2 beers.

Just for everyone's knowledge for future reference.
High, is a drug induced state.
2 beers, is not drunk!!!

HIGH, these days is a rather relative and subjective word. Also, the mouthwash trick won't work either, that is mostly alcohol.

MXB360 09-05-2016 08:21 PM

Alleyyooper, what part of the U.P. you from??? I am from the Iron River area.

super_hunt54 09-05-2016 11:10 PM


Originally Posted by MXB360 (Post 4271938)
First off, I was not drunk!!!!!!!!!!!

Second, if I had been HIGH they would not have know. I don't really need any dimwits to say something that was not truthful.

Third, I am opiate dependent thanks to the medical profession. So, would you then expect me to quit hunting. I believe the ADA would argue in my favor being disabled, and a veteran.

Fourth, get your terminology straight. There is a difference between drunk and 2 beers.

Just for everyone's knowledge for future reference.
High, is a drug induced state.
2 beers, is not drunk!!!

HIGH, these days is a rather relative and subjective word. Also, the mouthwash trick won't work either, that is mostly alcohol.

Calling people dimwits when you can't seem to get it through your head that the sales people at Cabelas were doing their JOB correctly shows just who the dimwit truly is. Now, try to understand this as I thought I made it pretty plain before but you don't seem to understand. If you go up to a sales counter and try to purchase a firearm, they SMELL alcohol (beer has an extremely distinctive odor and easily recognized), then by FEDERAL LAW they cannot sell to you!! Why is that hard for you to understand? Their hands are tied. You may not have been even buzzed up, but how are THEY supposed to know? They aren't issued breathalizers nor are they trained in field sobriety testing. They are instructed by the ATF to deny sales to ANYONE that exhibits intoxication or if they can smell intoxicating substances on their person. Pot, Beer, Liquor, all exhibit a distinctive odor. What if the person had sold you that firearm and an ATF agent happened upon the transaction and smelled beer on your breath? I can tell you exactly what, the sales person would have immediately lost his/her job and more than likely charged with a crime!

alleyyooper 09-06-2016 03:04 AM

Rapid River.


You didn't say you were given a breathalyzer test. Mouth wash smells different than beer.

Think I would just leave things as they are, Your not winning any friends or influencing any one either.

:D Al

uncle matt 09-06-2016 12:07 PM

:party0005::party0005:
now let's go to the gun shop.

MXB360 09-06-2016 12:07 PM


Originally Posted by alleyyooper (Post 4271964)
Rapid River.


You didn't say you were given a breathalyzer test. Mouth wash smells different than beer.

Think I would just leave things as they are, Your not winning any friends or influencing any one either.

:D Al

Very true, I am not making any friends. Guess it is just best to leave it alone. But, high and drunk are 2 different things. I would just like to know what some's reaction is going to be when it is legal in Michigan. I am hoping that a person does not have to submit to a urinalysis test before buying a weapon. Besides, I am limited as to what I can do because of my pain management doctor.

I do deeply apologies to all members on the forum. I would rather be friend than foe.

Now....Rapid River, I spent 3 years in Escanaba at Bay College to get my degree. I loved that area with the lake right there. I lived in Perronville for 2 years. I would leave for school in the morning and in the evening coming home I seen some beautiful bucks in the area.

MXB360 09-06-2016 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by uncle matt (Post 4272028)
:party0005::party0005:
now let's go to the gun shop.

I don't think so Uncle Matt.:s7: I was considering at that time to get a mate in 5.56 for my DPMS AR 10. It was a DPMS Oracle for $550.00 on sale. The local stores have been trying to compete somewhat after Cabela's came around, maybe at Scheels later. BTW, that avatar of yours makes me hurt just looking at it.

Champlain Islander 09-06-2016 12:18 PM


Originally Posted by MXB360 (Post 4272029)
I am hoping that a person does not have to submit to a urinalysis test before buying a weapon.

A larger and more important question is will we be able to even buy that weapon with the current political climate and expected winner.

MXB360 09-06-2016 12:28 PM

Very true Champlain Islander. Guess the best bet is to get your guns of choice before the election. At least that way there you already have them. I don't really think they will take away any guns, but, the assault weapon ban will surely come up. When Bill Clinton signed the one that he did in the 90's, the one's already owned were grandfathered in. Hold on to what AR's a person has because the price will double on the private market for them.

Champlain Islander 09-06-2016 01:34 PM

Yup and watch the ammo get scarce and expensive again.

super_hunt54 09-06-2016 02:15 PM


Originally Posted by Champlain Islander (Post 4272044)
Yup and watch the ammo get scarce and expensive again.

And yet ANOTHER reason for reloading!!! I have enough components and powder to last me the rest of me life if need be. (I'm old so probably more than enough) :D

Champlain Islander 09-06-2016 04:14 PM


Originally Posted by super_hunt54 (Post 4272048)
And yet ANOTHER reason for reloading!!! I have enough components and powder to last me the rest of me life if need be. (I'm old so probably more than enough) :D

Yeah one of my hunting buds reloads for several calibers. He buys all the components in bulk and has enough powder to make a bombmaker blush but said last time around he couldn't replenish his supplies on a lot of different things. He still had more than a lifetime of stuff but worried he could run out.

alleyyooper 09-07-2016 05:51 AM

Rapid River is on the north east shore of Little Bay DeNoc. We launch the boat at hunters point launch. Getting the boat in isn't bad and lots of parking in the lot. A dock would be nice how ever.


I always liked the small gun shops my self, never cared for the box stores, consider Wally world better than the box stores.


Stock's Gun Shop Rapid River, MI
8495 S Lakeside T.5 Dr
Rapid River MI 49878-9233

(906) 474-6803


M & C Gun Shop Rapid River, MI 10484 U.25 Rd
Rapid River MI 49878-9572

(906) 474-9279




D & D Guns Cornell, MI 9081 County 416 H Rd
Cornell MI 49818-9112

(906) 384-6853


U P Hunter's Gunsmithing Powers, MI N14902 County Road 566
Powers MI 49874-9682

(906) 497-5576

The Shooter Shop
2515 Lakeshore Dr
Escanaba, MI 49829
Phone: (906) 786-3771


Outlaw Shooters Supply


4946 M 5 Lane
Escanaba, MI 49829

Phone: (906) 786-5812


Dunham's Discount Sports #9083


Delta Plaza 301 N Lincoln Rd
Escanaba, MI 49829
Phone: (810) 674-4991





Used to be a nice place in the Ludington plaza for buying firearms and reloading supplies. They closed about 2001.
GM Marquette put them out.





:D Al

MXB360 09-14-2016 05:33 AM

Quick update:
Contacted Cabelas about my experience. They are in the process of investigating the situation after I wrote and told them about my experience. They told me regardless of alcohol on my breath they had no reason to shame me like they did in front of people. So will see what happens I guess. Guess they are not allowed to blurt it out so loud that all can hear, and make me stand at the counter for 15 minutes, and keep telling me I will be right there.

GOOD OLE BOY 09-23-2016 04:43 PM


Originally Posted by MXB360 (Post 4272033)
Very true Champlain Islander. Guess the best bet is to get your guns of choice before the election. At least that way there you already have them. I don't really think they will take away any guns, but, the assault weapon ban will surely come up. When Bill Clinton signed the one that he did in the 90's, the one's already owned were grandfathered in. Hold on to what AR's a person has because the price will double on the private market for them.

AR,s are plentifull and cheap currently and if the witch is elected their price might sky rocket and become scarace again like they did when this current ignoramus was elected.

JagMagMan 09-23-2016 06:26 PM


Originally Posted by MXB360 (Post 4272033)
I don't really think they will take away any guns, but, the assault weapon ban will surely come up.

Yep!!! Keep on thinking that way! Keep your head in the sand! For the past 30 years or so, I have heard people say: "Naw, they'll never take our guns!"
It has been getting closer with each election! We are only ONE SCOTUS Justice away from ditching the 2nd. Amendment and having an American gun BAN!
I'm sure there were many people in the U.K., Australia and Canada that didn't think it would happen either!
I sincerely hope I never have to say, "I told you so!!!!!"

reb1 09-23-2016 06:28 PM

As a business they have the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason. But in that process they shouldn't be able to embarrass or belittle anyone. Some employees don't know how to handle some situations and handle them poorly. But I would expect cabelas to look into it. And if someone there was wrong they will try an make it up to you

Mando 09-25-2016 04:39 AM


Originally Posted by super_hunt54 (Post 4271758)
It's not just their policy, it is a FEDERAL LAW. It matters not if you are beyond a legal limit. If they can smell alcohol on your breath, they can not, by penalty of imprisonment, sell you a firearm. Point blank and period. Had I been at the counter you would have been told that very same thing. As would anyone else on this forum. Have to say, your creating an account and making a negative post is not the way to start out on this forum. Especially when you are 100% in the wrong.

Edit to add: To clarify this for you, under federal law, it is illegal to sell a firearm to anyone that appears to be under the influence of an intoxicating substance. Now, the feds don't expect sales folks to keep a breathalizer under the counter so they just made it simple. 0 tolerance period. If they smell alcohol, by law, they have to deny sale. It's pretty straight forward. Just because YOU can handle a "couple of beers" doesn't mean everyone else can. How was that sales person supposed to know whether or not your "couple of beers" wasn't a couple of pitchers? Back when I drank, I could drink 3 full pitchers of beer and you or anyone else couldn't tell from my speech or body movements that I had drank a single drop. But if I hit the breathalizer, you can bet I'd blow over the limit!

Can you please post the applicable USC section. I have never heard of this law, and I know of far too many of them.

super_hunt54 09-26-2016 12:21 AM


Sec. 10-9-50. - Selling weapons to intoxicated persons.
(a)
It is a Class A municipal offense for any person to knowingly purchase, sell, loan or furnish a gun, pistol or other firearm in which any explosive substance can be used, to any person under the influence of alcohol or of a controlled substance, as defined in Section 12-22-303(7), C.R.S., to any person in a condition of agitation or excitability, or to any minor under the age of eighteen (18) years.
(b)
Any such unlawful purchase, sale, loan or furnishing of a weapon shall be grounds for the revocation of any license issued by the City to such person.
(Prior code 13.12.150; Ord. 4 §1, 2005)
There ya go.

ranger56528 09-26-2016 05:36 PM


Originally Posted by MXB360 (Post 4272952)
Quick update:
Contacted Cabelas about my experience. They are in the process of investigating the situation after I wrote and told them about my experience. They told me regardless of alcohol on my breath they had no reason to shame me like they did in front of people. So will see what happens I guess. Guess they are not allowed to blurt it out so loud that all can hear, and make me stand at the counter for 15 minutes, and keep telling me I will be right there.

I had a issue at a Cabelas about 10 yrs ago and when I got home I email the corporate office and explained what happened,they sent a email back asking for date and time and if it was a male or female then about a week later I received a email apologizing to me saying they saw what happened on video. Long story short,they treated me very good and a few days later I received a 100.00 gift certificate in the mail with a copy of the email.......Long story short,just because a guy isn't wearing Dockers and a Polo shirt is no reason not to help them,my two boys were with and had there Saturday play in the field/dirt cloths on also.......Never judge a book by its cover...


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