Mr. Slim

RR, wouldn't that be kind of noisy? sure would draw a lot of attention in my neck of the woods. also take too long. good chance of getting shot at by neighbors.

stalkingbear

I'll admit I didn't read through 3 whole pages of responses, just going to share what I've learned. To begin with, buy the absolute best quality you can possibly afford. Now that brand is out of the way, buy something as big as you possibly afford, even if you have to save for it. The weight & size make it harder to just hook a chain to & drag the whole thing out, or roll out. Then either bolt 2 of them together or lag bolt them to the floor and/or wall with at least grade 8 allthreads in 1/2 or 5/8". Don't forget to put something in there to control humidity in the safe to keep your stuff from rusting and opt for double fireproofing if you can. You're also going to keep all the valuables and important papers in there. Now configure it so you can effectively hold the most guns, either by shelves and/or handgun racks. Personally I like to hang all the long guns from a overhead lazy suzan for more capacity, less space usage.

robbyfine

I own SentrySafe Pistol Safe (you can read the review on it here https://secretstorages.com/ . It allows me quick access, just in case. My safe comes with key and combo lock. It fits my 5 handguns easy. Besides guns, I keep some valuables and documents there.

hardcastonly

you may want to visit a commercial safe store and see if they have any used TL30 rated safes for sale
a decent used commercial safe it a quantum leap in security over almost all gun safes sold.
a TL30 safe in good used condition can frequently be purchased for $3000-$3500 , and if you check most of the BETTER gun safes have less than a 1/4" steel outer body, some insulation (dry wall) and an inner 1/16" steel
yes the door and frame may be significantly more substantial, but an experienced thief will know the difference.
a commercial safe generally has thicker steel and its filled with special concrete and frequently a mesh of hard re=bar, and matrix of hardened steel rods in the 2"-4" void between the inner and outer walls
these safes can easily weigh over twice to three times what the better gun safes weigh and generally will require special tools to move,
like a special pallet jack,
once bolted to the floor with several 6" 5/8" red head expansion bolts they are not easily moved,
but the safe company can usually supply experienced installers with the correct tools for an additional charge or they may include installation in the cost of the safe,
if the area you want it installed is reasonably accessible (garage or at least easily accessed first floor ?)
https://www.safeandvaultstore.com/products/safeandvaultstore-3524bl-tl-30-two-hour-fire-safe-3524bl?variant=28540282765&utm_source=google&utm_m edium=cpc&adpos=1o2&scid=scplpshopify_US_795430720 1_28540282765&sc_intid=shopify_US_7954307201_28540 282765&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIi4ykpPzH4AIVFHdeCh3J_gmSE AQYAiABEgKfePD_BwE

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