Let me add that I have absolutely NO qualm about how Big Uncle feels about them. There are some that saw military service that I am dang near shocked that they would even LOOK at ANY kind of firearm again. Let alone the same type they carried. Some service Vets are affected that way. That is a personal matter and not one that reflects poorly on our hunting community. AR based platforms are merely a tool. A very serviceable and useful one for many hunting uses. But if picking one up gives you flashbacks to a horrendous period in your life then by all means don't pick one up.

That's what I tried to explain to him. Just because the ranch rifle doesn't have a pistol grip and comes with a cute little 5 round mag doesn't change the fact that it's still a gas-powered semiautomatic rifle...just like the AR.

A semi- automatic rifle, PERIOD ! :patriot:

NOT an assault rifle !!! :devil:


AR = "Armalite" the company who popularized the platform for the civilian market.

"Two shots in two seconds in the heart area --- bullet holes touching each other --- Or six shots in two seconds, in a combat effective zone over the human torso --- Both are effective...but one is obviously much more efficient."

Quote: Travis Haley

Not sure I get it. Are you trying to say the AR is less accurate than something else?

Travis Haley was referring to select fire full auto M16 verses the M1 Garand semi. Had he had an AR15 semi or even an M16 on semi he may have changed his tune a bit. He, like me, was not a fan of "spray and pray" full auto offensive.