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8mm/06 12-09-2014 07:33 AM

Best aftermarket trigger for Rem 700?
 
In light of the Remington trigger controversy it brought up a topic of discussion with my son.

When he graduated high school in 2001 I bought him a new Remington 700 in 30-06. He has mentioned several times over the years he'd like to change out the trigger.

When he finally goes for this swap, what recommendations do you guys have for triggers to consider in his 2001 ADL?

Big Uncle 12-09-2014 08:21 AM

These are my favorite:
http://www.shilen.com/productsTriggers.html

I have also used Timney triggers and have been satisfied with them.
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/220...ProductFinding

8mm/06 12-09-2014 08:39 AM

Thanks much Big Uncle.

Ill be interested in anybody's input on this as I don't own or know much about Remington rifles and their aftermarket products.

This is for a hunting rifle. He doesn't punch much paper with it except to keep it tuned in, he's a deer hunter and is interested in improving his groups. He's pretty darn good as it is but thought perhaps a better trigger could squeeze a little more accuracy out of the rifle.

jeepkid 12-09-2014 09:15 AM

Jewell is the top. I've used a few Timneys and they are great for hunting rifles. A simple trigger tune by a smith to the factory trigger is a good option too.

Big Uncle 12-09-2014 11:07 AM

Jewell is indeed a top trigger. It runs about $100 or so more than the others and it is very nice for someone that is building a 700 into a super accurate rig with a custom barrel, good stock, and some gunsmithing. However, I don't know if it is worth the extra cash over a Shilen or Timney for a factory rifle (700 ADL).

If you want to spend the cash you can't go wrong picking a Jewell.

Sheridan 12-10-2014 09:06 AM

If you want the one built for your 700 near or at the best - check this one out;

http://www.timneytriggers.com/shop/C...l-700-P51.aspx

8mm/06 12-11-2014 05:38 AM

Thanks for the replies so far,

Does anyone here have first hand experience with having the factory trigger on their 700 tweaked? Adjusted and polished for a clean crisp break?

Is there a ballpark price, or going rate for a trigger job on a Remington?

jeepkid 12-11-2014 05:41 AM


Originally Posted by 8mm/06 (Post 4174695)
Thanks for the replies so far,

Does anyone here have first hand experience with having the factory trigger on their 700 tweaked? Adjusted and polished for a clean crisp break?

Is there a ballpark price, or going rate for a trigger job on a Remington?

I have 2 customs with factory triggers. Both are crisp at 2.5 lbs. I'm not sure what most smith's charge but it should be under $40.

jerry d 12-11-2014 06:11 AM

[QUOTE=jeepkid;4174295] A simple trigger tune by a smith to the factory trigger is a good option too.

This^^^^^^^^ had 3 Remingtons ...., after having a smith adjust the triggers they were fine for me

Nomercy448 12-11-2014 07:05 AM


Originally Posted by 8mm/06 (Post 4174695)
Does anyone here have first hand experience with having the factory trigger on their 700 tweaked? Adjusted and polished for a clean crisp break?

Your first post seemed to imply that you've wanted to replace the Walker trigger in your son's 700 for a long time, but that you were finally motivated to do so due to the (unannounced) safety recall of these triggers.

This new response suggests that you're changing your mind about replacing it, and interested in having it 'smithed'.

I'd generally expect about $100 on a trigger job these days. Might find someone out there that does a lot of 700 triggers and is still doing $50 jobs.

If you believe the design reports and the lawsuits that there's something wrong with the Walker trigger design, then smithing won't 'fix' that. Replacing with a Remington XMP, Shilen, Rifle Basics, or Timney trigger can be on par for cost, or just slightly more expensive than trigger job. The Jewell's are certainly the best of the best, but reality is that they cost twice as much and if you're not competing, you won't notice the difference - and even if you ARE competing, there are other triggers in the world that deliver.

I'm not necessarily saying that you should have any concern with the safety of your trigger, but if you do question it, then the cost of peace of mind is $0. Just get a drop in replacement for the same cost as the trigger job,

Topgun 3006 12-11-2014 07:28 AM


Originally Posted by 8mm/06 (Post 4174695)
Thanks for the replies so far,

Does anyone here have first hand experience with having the factory trigger on their 700 tweaked? Adjusted and polished for a clean crisp break?

Is there a ballpark price, or going rate for a trigger job on a Remington?

Rather than do that and still have a trigger assembly that the inventor stated is prone to misfires and needs to be changed, IMHO I would go with an aftermarket trigger like a Jewell or the cheaper Timney like I put in my 03A3. They are simple to install if you can follow a few directions that come with them. If that doesn't light your fire, just have a smith put it in. That pretty well follows what NM448 just mentioned! Replace it for a little more money and don't look back!

Ridge Runner 12-11-2014 12:08 PM

have ha 4 done by reputable smiths, they do pretty good down to round 3 pounds, any smith worth his salt can work it.
charge usualy runs 15-40 bucks
RR

Bbj270 12-11-2014 12:46 PM

The last trigger job I had on a rem 700 about a year ago was $25. The Smith's old family friend so I think we got a little deal last person I herd that went to him he charged $40.had all my 700 but two done by him and never had a problem.

jeepkid 12-11-2014 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by Topgun 3006 (Post 4174723)
Rather than do that and still have a trigger assembly that the inventor stated is prone to misfires and needs to be changed


The inventor of the Titanic said it was unsinkable... :confused0024:

Sheridan 12-11-2014 05:44 PM

If there is ONE rifle MOST gunsmith's KNOW, it's a Remington model 700 (along with their aftermarket parts).

Had a trigger job done (and set at 3lbs) by my Smith first thing (+/- $60 can't remember now).

8mm/06 12-11-2014 06:20 PM

Thanks for all the replies. I appreciate all the info as we consider the options for this 2001 700 and getting to be a little bit better shooter and possibly making it safer.

Nomercy448, ... The original reason my son mentioned swapping out the factory trigger was simply b/c he wanted to have the rifle be as accurate as possible in his hands, and he felt the factory trigger was fine, but not quite as slick as some others had used/felt. He didn't have any concerns about safety when he first discussed getting a different trigger several years ago.

We have a very reputable smith that we've used for many years (basically since my grandfather passed ... he was our gunsmith until his death). I am advising my son to take the rifle up to him in Saginaw and ask for their pricing on both installing a newer trigger or slicking up and tuning the factory trigger. It'll save us considerable time and effort to get the advice from a trusted and skilled smith. But I am always interested in what others have done and experienced.

FWIW I'll come back on and report what my trusted smith is saying about this 700 trigger stuff.

Thanks again everybody.

Ridge Runner 12-12-2014 03:15 PM

I've had them done by Kirby Allen, Mark Bansner, and Ray Romain (now deceased)
These guys are world class smiths, they make a good living building rifles designed to perform for the purposes they build them for.
If there was any chance that the triggers were unsafe they would not work on them, you don't work that long to build up your reputation just to tear it down by selling unsafe parts in your package rifles.
RR

gjersy 12-13-2014 03:25 PM

You nailed it Ridge Runner!

Zeak 12-20-2014 10:57 AM

I put 2 Timneys in my 700's myself,not hard to do. They cost around $96 each, but has been a few years back. Both factory triggers had gone bad so instead of messing with Remington, this was the easiest way out. Timney also gave instructions on how to adjust them. Zeak

Brandon_SPC 12-20-2014 12:48 PM

I had a timney in my 700 30-06 set at 2 lbs and I love it. Just I sold that rifle for a 700 in .270 and just need to make a trigger upgrade.

jdhaines32 12-21-2014 01:25 PM

When the X Mark Pro trigger was recalled on my ADL and BDL I replaced them with the Timney 510. They are both hunting rifles and I couldn't be happier with my decision.

Topgun 3006 12-21-2014 06:29 PM


Originally Posted by jdhaines32 (Post 4176610)
When the X Mark Pro trigger was recalled on my ADL and BDL I replaced them with the Timney 510. They are both hunting rifles and I couldn't be happier with my decision.

Excellent decision!

Tollster 12-27-2014 07:28 PM

I just did my first trigger and it happened to be on my Rem 270 ADL, but only after researching it online. I was fortunate to find a good walk through with pictures. I did not mess with any of the springs, just the adjustment, and polishing. It reduced my groups on factory ammunition by almost .750 @ 100 yards.
http://www.homegunsmith.com/archive/T21030.html

I want to say my ADL is from around the same year.

Topgun 3006 12-27-2014 07:41 PM


Originally Posted by Tollster (Post 4177737)
I just did my first trigger and it happened to be on my Rem 270 ADL, but only after researching it online. I was fortunate to find a good walk through with pictures. I did not mess with any of the springs, just the adjustment, and polishing. It reduced my groups on factory ammunition by almost .750 @ 100 yards.
http://www.homegunsmith.com/archive/T21030.html

I want to say my ADL is from around the same year.

That's some real research and since it's on the internet it just has to be correct! That's just fantastic---An article from some guy you don't know on a website entitled "homegunsmith" and great big capital letters telling you not to do what he did!

Tollster 12-28-2014 01:29 AM


Originally Posted by Topgun 3006 (Post 4177739)
That's some real research and since it's on the internet it just has to be correct! That's just fantastic---An article from some guy you don't know on a website entitled "homegunsmith" and great big capital letters telling you not to do what he did!

Naturally discretion should be used 100% of the time regarding anything on the web, that goes without saying.

But with that said, topgun, If you are not comfortable or lack confidence in your mechanical abilities, it would be strongly advisable to leave it to a professional.

I am sure you may be able to find one fairly close to home, or check with your local Rod and Gun Club, often times they know the who's who's of gunsmiths in the area. Which is a dying trade in many parts, or at least, finding a very knowledgeable one can be difficult in some parts of the country.
Once again, please be safe, and seek a professional if you have any doubts in your abilities.
~Tol

Topgun 3006 12-28-2014 05:58 AM

Tollster---You just joined the site today and unless you have been lurking here for a long time before you signed on today you probably have no idea why I posted what I did regarding that Remington he worked on and I'll just leave it at that!

Tollster 12-28-2014 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by Topgun 3006 (Post 4177760)
Tollster---You just joined the site today and unless you have been lurking here for a long time before you signed on today you probably have no idea why I posted what I did regarding that Remington he worked on and I'll just leave it at that!

Being the new guy, I kind of figured there where plenty of old bulls in the arena, so I erred on professionalism.. Not here to bust on anyone, but if I can help in anyway, I would like to contribute to the forum without stepping on people or misdirecting them in any way,that was the intention of the post.
It just seemed like a lot of rooms with things I have in common, and regular inputs, rather than 3 years old threads at the top of each page. Never been a lurker.

Topgun 3006 12-28-2014 04:25 PM

I'm sure you'll do well here with your apparent knowledge of stuff. Welcome again!

Savage_99 12-28-2014 06:25 PM

Just sell the rifle and move on.

The Ruger 77, Kimber 84M and Winchester M70's have better triggers, actions and safeties.

Get him a Kimber 84M. That's a nice rifle.

Tollster 12-29-2014 04:55 AM

Quick question: Is the 2001 or so trigger assembly interchangeable with say, mid-late 70's xtrigger?
I have an older BDl with the X trigger, thought about putting a timney on the 270 ADL, and bumping that trigger to the BDL..

The old Xtrigger isn't worth reworking, but think the newer ADL with the 3 adjustables may be worth the swap out, not to mention a new timney of the ADL.

jeepkid 12-29-2014 06:22 AM


Originally Posted by Savage_99 (Post 4177850)
Just sell the rifle and move on.

The Ruger 77, Kimber 84M and Winchester M70's have better triggers, actions and safeties.

Get him a Kimber 84M. That's a nice rifle.

That's the funniest post I've read in a long time! Thanks for the laugh :party0005:

Topgun 3006 12-29-2014 06:59 AM

What ^ he said!!!

Nomercy448 12-29-2014 09:13 AM


Originally Posted by jeepkid (Post 4177889)
That's the funniest post I've read in a long time! Thanks for the laugh :party0005:

I thought the same thing, but bit my tongue.

Debatable for action quality and safety, which is a fire that I'm sure won't soon cease since it's hard to have a relevant comparison between an orange and a socket wrench, but triggers? Really?

I could easily argue that the new LC6 trigger is as good as the X-Mark, but better? Not so much. The old Ruger triggers weren't even in the same class as the Remingtons, not for generations.


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