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Savage 212 or 220 Slug gun?
Hopefully I might be able to get a little help from you fellow hunting netters. I looking to upgrade my slug gun this year and have read some great things about the Savage 212 and 220. It seems like the range on these guns is really good and hunting some of the corn field edges and oak ridges, I have the opportunity for some longer shots that I wouldn't take with my 870. I was curious if anyone has either of these guns and what your opinion is. It seems like the 20 gauge gets some great reviews but I'm more of a 12 gauge person. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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either one, and you will not go wrong. I own several slug guns, and my best one overall is the Savage 220f....It handles like a rifle, it's trigger is great, lightweight, and it's a damn tack driver with very little if any recoil. Mine is topped off with a Leupold VX-II, (known now as the VX-2) 3-9x40, with Grim Reaper's one piece medium rings/base part# 18200, it loves the Remington Accutips 3", and I'm getting 3/4" groups at 100 yds., at 200 yds. I'm getting 1.3"/1.5", of course this under ideal conditions on a bench. Today's 20ga. shotgun and ammo have come a very long way, and that 20ga will take down deer, bears, etc. I only hunt with the 20ga. for the last 6 plus years as I got tired of the recoil of 12ga., and by no means would I question the 12ga., I still have a few deer/bear hunting. If you want to save a few bucks, look into the H&R Ultra Deluxe I have one in 20ga, and it's also a tack driver, but not as tight of groups as the Savage 220f, but very accurate.
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I have the savage 220 and love this gun. I shoot rem accu tip and I can stack them at 100yrds and all within 4" at 200yrd of the bench. great gun .....................
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220!
I'm more of a 20ga slug gun kinda guy... less kick 200yds plenty of power to kill a whitetail I see almost no reason to shoot a 12ga slug gun for deer... esp when talking modern sabots w/ savage 220. |
Thanks guys, I do appreciate the input. It seems like everyone really likes the 220. Bowhuntercop, I actually just dug up your review from 2011 on the gun. Is there a difference between the 220 and the 220f? Now I'm looking into if anywhere is going to have a sale in the next month or two. Also, looking to get a CVA Accura 2 Muzzleloader as well.
I've also heard that you have to really be careful with scopes and the mounts. I saw that Bowhunter has a Grim reaper mount, is there another mount I should look at or scopes that do or do not work? |
Good Looking gun there bowhuntercop! I'll have to see if I can find one in that camo pattern!
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thank you fastetti, it was originally black, had it hydro dipped
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I also have the 220 and love it. Used to hunt with an 870 in 12 gauge. Got tired of beating myself up, and the 20 is plenty for deer. I'm pretty sure there is no difference between the 220 and the 220f (I posted the same question a couple years ago when I was in the process of buying mine, and that is the response I recall getting).
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Years ago Savage made a 220 it was a single shot break open, the 220f is what is known as the bolt action tack driving slug gun of today
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In Savage-speak, "f" is their nomenclature for a synthetic stock, which all 220s have, I believe. If someday they make one with a wood stock, it will not be called an "f".
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Thanks guys, I really appreciate it! I'm heading down to Central Illinois this weekend and will stop at one of the local gun stores and see if they have it. If everything looks good, I may just have to purchase it and pick it up in a month when I head back down there.
What slugs do you guys shoot? It sounds like 3" Remington Accutips are a popular load. Funny, all the guys that always have good things to say on this forum and whose names I recognized responded to this. You guys always have wise and positive things to say on here so I think you just officially pushed my over the edge on my purchase! |
It seems that the 3" Accutips from Remington work best, not to say the 2-3/4" doesn't nor any other brand. It seems to be somewhat easier to find the 3" Accutips these days then it was last year, but I would buy more then what you need, the closer we get to the season or end of summer the faster they will be off the shelves. Also get yourself a good quality scope, I really like the Leupold VX-2, 3-9x40, but Nikon is also good, Zeiss is excellent but the new Terra line is over priced and made in Asia and the reviews aren't as good as one would think when they here Zeiss, higher end Bushnell's are good. Also look into the the DNZ one piece scope mounts, I have it on my 220f and let me just say it's rock solid product # I have is 18200, also they make 182000S they are medium height and perfect bolt clearance, best price I saw is:
http://www.opticsplanet.com/s/18200?brand=530 Also if you or anyone is looking to upgrade the factory stock here are a few aftermarket ones: http://www.boydsgunstocks.com/search...e+220+slug+gun |
Mine shoots 2 3/4" Accutips fine (couldn't find any 3" ones when I was siting in). I've also put a 3" Federal copper round through it and some sort of Winchester 3" (Silvertip??), and they shot fine as well. Didn't have as much luck with SST's. As I recall, Savage recommends 3 rounds in the owners manual (which I can't seem to find at the moment). One was the Accutip, one was a Federal round, and I don't remember the third (but it was not the SST, which I remember because it was recommended for the 212 but not the 220).
Mounting a scope is a little bit of a challenge. Due to the longer action (I think), the receiver is drilled a bit farther apart, so conventional mounts will be too far apart to attach to a conventional scope. I put a picatinny rail on mine (which I bought at EGW -- probably over engineered and more expensive than I needed for my purposes). The DNZ mount looks like a good solution. |
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sorry for the small picture, but here is my group at 100 yds. with my savage 220f using Remington Accutips 3", the group is dead center about 4" high
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212 is what I have. A really good shooting slug gun with hornady slugs. My brother has a 220 and thinks it's as good as it gets
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A little late to the discussion. Have always. Used 12 guage until 2 seasons ago. Bought The 220 and have shot 5 deer over last 2 seasons with it, dropping 3 and the other 2 piled at 40 yds max. Had trouble finding the 3" accutips so have been using the Hornady SST's and have had good results. You will get diff performance out of diff slugs but I thing the gun is so good that it may not matter that much. Thanks Bowhuntercop did not know the accutips are more available. Anyway let us know what you got
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Thanks guys, looking to pull the trigger on it here shortly. I found a 220 in camo but it says it only shoots 3" slugs. It doesn't say it won't shoot 2 3/4 but it just says 3" in the description. It's a 220 model #18828. Does anyone happen to know about this particular model and if it will shoot 2 3/4? I want to shoot 3" but just in case there is ever a shortage I want to be able to shoot the ever available 2 3/4 inch.
I've gone to a few different places and so far the camo version for $499 is the best deal I have found. I don't find many reviews for that model but hopefully its the same as the one most of you shoot. I just don't want to get caught buying a cheaper model and have any issues. Also, Bowhuntercop, I found a VX1 3-9x by leupold for $180. I know you mentioned the VX2 was on yours. Any thoughts? I have a Leupold on my .270 that is about 20 years old and really like it. Wanted to see what your opinion was. I saw the Nikon Prostaff 3-9x for $115 and trying to decide on scopes now. Way too tough a decision! |
It will shoot 2-3/4", & 3" !!! $499 is a fair price !!! They have different model numbers for the different finishes...Black stock/blue barrel, camo stock/blue barrel, camo stock/stainless steel barrel....They are all the same !!!! The VX-1 of today is as equal as the the VX-II of a few years ago, so you will be fine with it, get the one with a PLEX reticle, and the 3-9x40 is great. May I suggest the DNZ one piece mounts, I have part # 18200, perfect set up
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friend got the Savage 220f and Leupold scope with 3" Accutips back in December and finally got a chance to sight it in today.....He is sold, he loves it !!!
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I shoot the camo 220f and it will shoot 2 3/4 accutips like a lazer. I bought mine on line through Buds gun shop for $430 and then a $25 ffl transfer fee to the ffl guy. . click click pay done it was that easy!!! My gun was at my ffl in 2 days..
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I would agree with Muzzy 100, Bud's Gun Shop has great prices
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