ditto .

I just wanna know where he's going to "long range" hunt in VT...I spent a year deployed up there and did some hunting...in VT 100 yards is long range from my experience!

he owns 110 acres and it is mostly fields

Yes I do believe that 23 ft.lbs. = 23 ft.lbs.

I also believe that good shooting form is the main factor in perceived recoil.


Ear plugs plus ear muffs lessens percussion, which also effects perception of recoil.

I have a 300 Win. Mag. I have hunted with it a bunch and been at the range with it often. On the bench, it is not waht I'd refer to as fun as far as sitting down for round after round. By the time I get to 100 shots or so, the fun factor starts to evaporate and precision shooting begins to take on a "work" factor. If you could find one for the guy to try out at the range, probably would not be a bad idea.

To answer your question, comparison to say a 2 3/4" , 12 ga. shotshell medium load as far as recoil, I'd say about the same.

100 rounds?!

100 shots of trap loads is a far cry from a belted magnum rifle in "felt" recoil. I know I shoot both.

100 rds of trap loads in or even the bit stronger sporting clays loads are doable. But one box of 20 7mm Rem mags is, to me, worse.

Weight of my two guns is part of it, the shotgun is heavier than the rifle. Also the shot gun is a auto & rifle a bolt action. These are major differences in recoil.

He'd best try some rifles for himself, it's the only way he's going to KNOW.

I agree with you there. I have an 870 wingmaster and before I bought my 300 mag I shot it from a bench with loads that I mentioned in the first post that have 23ft lbs. Im not recoil sensitive and it felt just fine so I got the 300. And I have no issue with the 300. The only thing that is a little different is the 300 is a little sharper.

Anyone who shoots 100 rounds of 300WM in one bench setting has my immediate admiration. :hail:

lol, me too!