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Old 08-22-2012, 09:54 AM
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"I dont like either one, but one is a known supporter for gun control and it isnt the one in office right now. Isnt that what this whole thread was about? Bassicaly a vote for Romney is a vote for gun control!!"

***Now I know you have your head buried deep somewhere, LOL! You actually don't think BO is a direct threat to gun rights after everything that has been shown about him on this thread? Who do you think the NRA is supporting in this election? It sure as he** isn't BO!!! You are so far out of it and so unknowing that it's a friggin shame you can actually vote and the big problem is that there are millions more just like you that have no idea what's going on in this world!
Other than the new President possibly getting to nominate one or two Surpeme Court Justices, it really boils down to who takes control of the House and Senate as to whether things get accomplished on a positive note or we have four more years of gridlock.

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Old 08-22-2012, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by fritz1
I dont like either one, but one is a known supporter for gun control and it isnt the one in office right now. Isnt that what this whole thread was about? Bassicaly a vote for Romney is a vote for gun control!!
Really? Check out who your boy put in the supreme court and then tell me who is for gun control.
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Old 08-22-2012, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Topgun 3006
"I dont like either one, but one is a known supporter for gun control and it isnt the one in office right now. Isnt that what this whole thread was about? Bassicaly a vote for Romney is a vote for gun control!!"

***Now I know you have your head buried deep somewhere, LOL! You actually don't think BO is a direct threat to gun rights after everything that has been shown about him on this thread? Who do you think the NRA is supporting in this election? It sure as he** isn't BO!!! You are so far out of it and so unknowing that it's a friggin shame you can actually vote and the big problem is that there are millions more just like you that have no idea what's going on in this world!
Other than the new President possibly getting to nominate one or two Surpeme Court Justices, it really boils down to who takes control of the House and Senate as to whether things get accomplished on a positive note or we have four more years of gridlock.

You are the one with your head up your AZZ!!!!!! Look at the facts buddy, Romney has supported banning of weapons in the past, our current Pres. has been there for four years and has did nothing to ban ANY weapons. I cant wait to see your responce come Nov. 6th. Maybe you need to read this again.

http://www.iberkshires.com/story/148...apons-ban.html

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Old 08-22-2012, 10:42 AM
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You are so far out of it with that last post that there is no more reason to even respond to your insanity! You better come out of the backwoods of Idaho booby and find out what's actually going on while you've been lost up there in the forests, LOL! Read my post on Supreme Court appointments BO made and the previous post by CLD that obviously went past your thick skull. Then go take a long hike to the library and read up on world news you dufus! There are so many things BO has attempted in his 4 years to control guns that I'm not even going to try to list them because you won't read it and you'rr obviously of too low an IQ to learn anything anyway! Friggin people like you that just post to be posting with absolutely IGNORANT responses are why we are in the deep doodoo we're in right now in this country!

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Old 08-22-2012, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by SpawnedX
Let me actually put it in another way.
If someone held a gun to my head and made me choose one of the two, after witnessing Romney's work firsthand, I would pick Obama. That way I can use the welfare check I can get when I lost my job to stock up on ammo for the ensuing revolution.
Sorry, but spelling be damned! Let me digest the statement above:
You don't like either choice, but if forced to choose, you pick obumma.
Reasoning: When you lose your job, due to obumma, you can be prepared for the revolution.

That is just totally irrational!

I don't really like the choices that we have either!

1. We are not at the point of having a true multi-party system. A vote for anyone BUT Romney, is a vote for obumma!

2. Our gooberment may or may not be preparing for major civil unrest. That would be the end of America! No one would win except our external enemies! They would pounce on us in a heartbeat!

3. obumma has had his 4 years and he has done NOTHING to better our situation!

4. obumma is a career political activist! A RADICAL, SOCIALIST career activist, I might add! Look at the history of his cronies and those that he has created positions for.

5. Romney does actually have business & governing experience.

6. Four years of Romney could at least give us a chance to start cleaning up our mess.

7. Four years of Romney would at the very least keep a lame duck pretender and his cronies from advancing their socialist adgenda! The Second Amendment is only the tip of the iceberg!

8. Perhaps the best we can hope for would be 4 more years of gridlock. Sometimes gridlock is good! We will not get that with a lame-duck-lame-brain in office!
Geesh! obumma was even caught on an open mike, telling a communist dictator that "he would be in a better position to deal after his re-election!" Does that mean he would "deal" from a position of strength? Or, does that mean he will be able advance his socialist adgenda with no repercussions?
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Old 08-22-2012, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by fritz1
our current Pres. has been there for four years and has did nothing to ban ANY weapons.
Yes, I believe the dummycraps finally wised up! Keep the real adgenda quiet and wait for a more favorable political climate! They know they can't win if their socialist beliefs were made public!

Four more years with a lame-duck regime could get us a lot more "change" than we imagined!
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Old 08-22-2012, 11:02 AM
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Fritzs, spawn, here is a history lesson for you both.

Romney, as Governor was doing his job of Representing ALL citizens of Massachusetts when he signed that health insurance law.
He gave the people of that state what they wanted, they are now learning that having what you want isn't the same as having what you need.
The insurance rates have increased, wait times to see a provider have increased, response time for actual emergencies has decreased. This is exactly what will happen under Obama as well.

Back to the gun rights debate. Obama has declared his intentions towards gun control with his placing of sotomayor and kagan on the US supreme court bench. Both of these two women have very anti gun stances as seen during their Senate confirmation hearings.
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Old 08-22-2012, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by JagMagMan
Sorry, but spelling be damned! Let me digest the statement above:
You don't like either choice, but if forced to choose, you pick obumma.
Reasoning: When you lose your job, due to obumma, you can be prepared for the revolution.

That is just totally irrational!
I know for some, it is difficult to read a statement and understand it.

First of all, the only irrational person, is the one who puts that much thought into this statement. Because, apparently, you believe someone is going to be holding a gun to my head at the election booth.

This statement simply illustrates 2 things, the fact that I believe both will further hurt the economy and the job market and that Romney is a snake in the grass when it comes to gun laws. The comment is tongue-in-cheek. 524.00 a month (which is what welfare is) is not going to pay rent, nevermind let people buy ammunition. If you or anyone else thinks a person wants to try or even can live off 524.00 a month than you are irrational.

I don't really like the choices that we have either!
Then make a stand.

1. We are not at the point of having a true multi-party system. A vote for anyone BUT Romney, is a vote for obumma!
And we never will be if we vote for one of the two parties just for the sake of voting.

2. Our gooberment may or may not be preparing for major civil unrest. That would be the end of America! No one would win except our external enemies! They would pounce on us in a heartbeat!
So why even bother to care if they take our guns? All it takes for evil men to prevail is for good men to do nothing.

3. obumma has had his 4 years and he has done NOTHING to better our situation!
Romney did NOTHING in MA, what makes you think he magically changed his ideals and methods since then?

4. obumma is a career political activist! A RADICAL, SOCIALIST career activist, I might add! Look at the history of his cronies and those that he has created positions for.
Good for Obama. Perhaps you missed the part where I told you I didn't vote for him the first time and don't plan on doing so this time either?

5. Romney does actually have business & governing experience.
I own an automotive repair shop, it makes money, I am able to survive. I guess I should run for President.

6. Four years of Romney could at least give us a chance to start cleaning up our mess.
Four years of Romney or four years of Obama is going to be the same mess. The economy is the way it is now, not because of Obama, not because of Bush, but because of hundreds of missteps that Republicans and Democrats have taken for decades. They couldn't do it right the other 44 times, they won't do it right on the 45th.

7. Four years of Romney would at the very least keep a lame duck pretender and his cronies from advancing their socialist adgenda! The Second Amendment is only the tip of the iceberg!
Obama may try to enact the AWB again, but our guns are going nowhere, unless of course if you do not plan on honoring Jefferson's words and vision? Both sides of the aisle know that if you try to take our guns civil unrest kicks up 3 notches. You just sound paranoid now, if you are going to discuss and make a decision on an issue, make your decision based on what will happen and not what would happen if we lived in an Orwell novel.

8. Perhaps the best we can hope for would be 4 more years of gridlock. Sometimes gridlock is good! We will not get that with a lame-duck-lame-brain in office!
Okay. I am still not voting for Obama, or Romney. In order for someone's vote to be worth something it has to be given to the person they believe in. At this point I have more faith in Vermin Supreme.

Geesh! obumma was even caught on an open mike, telling a communist dictator that "he would be in a better position to deal after his re-election!" Does that mean he would "deal" from a position of strength? Or, does that mean he will be able advance his socialist adgenda with no repercussions?
Welcome to world politics. This sort of cronyism has been going on for decades in both parties. Did you even read the WikiLeaks documents? We have had a long standing secret agreement amongst Politics to support some communist regimes and other countries lead by dictators.

You want to make real change? Hit the street and educate people on the facts and not the propaganda. Don't just toss your vote in for the sake of voting. Americans don't LIKE Romeny on a personal level, his business practices are shaky, and he did no great favors for MA. On the other side Obama is in bed with the ILLEGAL immigrants and can't determine if he is a pacifist or an aggressor.

The truth of the matter is this country is a sinking ship with both at the helm.

- We need to enforce immigration law.
- We need to stay out of foreign conflicts, especially since most of them end up just putting people in power who turn around and spit on us and insult us.
- We need to adapt the Buffet rule and work towards setting a static tax percentage.
- We need education reform.
- We need police reform.
- We need to slash spending.
- We need people who will compromise and work together to fix the problem before it becomes too late.

And no Republican or Democrat will ever get there. It's politics as usual in Washington and the people just let it happen.

So excuse me for seeing no value in my vote since we are either going to have a corrupt Democratic clown or a corrupt Republican clown in office. See the constant? They are corrupt clowns and corrupt clowns don't fix problems.
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Old 08-22-2012, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by sconnyhunter
Fritzs, spawn, here is a history lesson for you both.

Romney, as Governor was doing his job of Representing ALL citizens of Massachusetts when he signed that health insurance law.
He gave the people of that state what they wanted, they are now learning that having what you want isn't the same as having what you need.
The insurance rates have increased, wait times to see a provider have increased, response time for actual emergencies has decreased. This is exactly what will happen under Obama as well.

Back to the gun rights debate. Obama has declared his intentions towards gun control with his placing of sotomayor and kagan on the US supreme court bench. Both of these two women have very anti gun stances as seen during their Senate confirmation hearings.
Yes, I am aware of that with Romney, I was living in MA at the time, now I live next door in RI.



Don't forget to mention what happened with car insurance in MA either with him.
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Old 08-22-2012, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by SpawnedX
My only hope, is that if Romney gets in, is that the Republican party keeps him in line.

I don't believe Obama will ban our guns, but I believe we will see another assault weapons ban if he gets in. (Which I am not okay with.)

I am okay with some gun control, making some mandatory requirements and record keeping for any weapon sold public or private. I don't see why legal gun owners would be worried about that, it makes tracking the source of illegally sold guns easier. Other than that, if Tommy Public wants to buy an AR-15 or a M249, as long as he isn't Tommy the Felon Public, he should be able to buy it.
Stricter gun laws is not the answer. Criminals dont legaly obtain there weapons, stricter gun laws just make it harder on the law abiding citizen to obtain a weapon.
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