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dmick33 06-05-2012 08:22 PM

What is better?
 
I have two deer rifles and I would like to hear your opinions on which is a more accurate gun say out to 400 yards the first is a model 70 ranger in the .270 win and second is a ruger m77 mark 2 in .300 win mag. Thanks

jdhogg 06-05-2012 08:37 PM

depends on the barrel the ammo and the shooter,are you just target shooting or hunting?the 300 will have more thumping power at 400 than the 270 but both are accurate rifles

slowr1der 06-05-2012 08:57 PM

I'm a big Ruger fan when it comes to their 10/22 as well as their handguns, but honestly, I think in this case the Winchester Model 70 would be a better option for what you want. That said, I think a Savage Model 10/110 would be an ever better option.

dmick33 06-05-2012 09:02 PM

they are both stock guns but the 300 has a heavier barrel.

dmick33 06-05-2012 09:04 PM

I own both the winchester and ruger now and am trying to decide which one to put my good scope on for a mulie hunt in nevada.

Nomercy448 06-05-2012 10:29 PM

Pretty simple question to answer...

1) Take $100-200 to a gun shop, buy 2-3 boxes of deer hunting ammo for each rifle.
2) Go home and mount and bore-site your "good scope" on the .270win
3) Go to the range, zero the scope at 100yrds, and shoot several test groups with each box of different ammo, saving the targets, and/or measuring the group size
4) Return home, remove the scope from the .270, and mount it on the .300
5) Return to the range, zero the scope at 100yrds, and shoot several groups with each box of different ammo, saving the targets and/or measuring the group size.
6) Return home, compare the two sets of targets to see which load shot best out of each rifle, and which rifle delivered the most accurate (actually "precise", but that's a different matter) groups.
7) If the test firing determines that .300WM is NOT the more accurate of the two, remove the scope and place it on the more accurate .270win. If the .300WM IS the more accurate, leave it alone.

Frankly, there's no way to tell which rifle you shoot better, let alone which rifle actually shoots better. I personally wouldn't have any reason to believe that a Win 70 would out shoot a Ruger 77 (they've both had their good and bad years/eras, and neither are particularly inaccurate, nor exceptionally accurate). I'd also say that I'd have no reason to believe that either a .270win or a .300WM would be inherently more accurate than the other (although history might "rumor" that the .300WM is more inherently accurate). If I recall correctly, the "Ranger" was more of a lightweight model, so it may possibly be perceived as less accurate than a standard Ruger might be, but frankly, for hunting purposes, such as your mulies at 400-600yrds max, I don't necessarily believe either would have an advantage (other than the harder hitting power of the .300WM).

Ultimately, the human component is critical, no matter how accurate either rifle might be. Without trying to be insulting, 400-600yrds shouldn't even be on the table considering the question you're asking, so without knowing anything about how well you shoot either rifle at any range, flip a coin and you'll be just as well served as asking questions on here.

Bernie P. 06-06-2012 05:01 AM

Nobody can possibly answer this one but you.

Sheridan 06-06-2012 07:27 AM


Originally Posted by Bernie P. (Post 3942508)
Nobody can possibly answer this one but you.


+1

After you get back from the range; you tell us.

The most accurate rifle will end up being the "one" you shoot the most, giving you have determined which load your gun likes best !

bugsNbows 06-06-2012 08:28 AM

Additionally, MANY folks tend to shoot lighter recoiling rifles more accurately. The .270 is plenty for deer. The .300 Win Mag is more than required...IMO

emtrescue6 06-06-2012 01:54 PM

Sheridan said it....+1

Either caliber will do the job equally...it's all in your hands. I'd take both (always take a back up on big huts...learned this the hard way) and use the one you shoot the best as your primary weapon.


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