lookin for a little help, maybee getting a new 700
 

So I am thinking about buying a new hunting rifle for next year and I want a 700, pretty sure I am set on the .300WM as for caliber, and planning on putting a leupold VX-II scope on it.
Now I get a little lost from there, I was looking at the SPS due to the price and the drop out magazine just because I like removable magazines
I may start getting some work done on the rifle as money allows, such as an upgraded stock, trigger work or new trigger, then possibly bedding and free floating.
What do you think of the setup, any recomendations on stock, trigger, or even the model I am looking at.
Any more info or insight would be greatly appreciated

Proud owner of a 700 SPS with detachable magazine in .243.


Did three things;

Had my gunsmith hand lap the barrel.

Had my gunsmith do a basic trigger job.

I followed the "standard" break in proceedure for first 100 rounds.


Shoots under 1" MOA all day long.


Any gunsmith worth their salt "can" work on a model 700 !

Couldn't agree more--I've got an LSS in 30-06, puts two with the holes touching and then on the third shot I usually can't hold it steady enough to put that one into the same hole although occasionally I do--and this is an out of the box rifle, no gunsmithing at all, so yes, the Remingtons shoot----listen to Sheridan, he knows what he's talking about---

just had to show you a couple shots cause she's pretty---

Sheridan - one question i have is Do they make as much aftermarket for the detachable magazine style, such as stocks? and are there any limitations to that style for getting work done to the gun and the functionality of the gun

Jhilde - that is a great looking gun, is that a standard stock, or aftermarket?

Sheridan, maybe you can shed a little light on the question--every Remington I've ever owned had a hinged floor plate, don't remember any with a fully detachable magazine--I've had ADL's, BDL's and the LSS--my Rem .22 of course had a pull out mag, but the rest all had floor plates---
JD--the stock is Remingtons, straight factory, called the "black laminated"--I don't see them offered in the Rem catalog any longer so that stock style may have been discontinued---Bud's gun shop, on the net, still has one in .300 Win Mag and their prices can't be beat--food for thought----

Just checked to be sure my info was accurate--second page of the Bud's gun shop Remington section, black laminate stock, stainless barreled action in .300 Win mag, $674.00---I love Remingtons so to my way of thinking, it's a no-brainer--just my opinion of course----

Another point in their favor, they are relatively light, but the thick recoil pad that Remington puts on them handles a lot of the felt recoil--my 06 is not at all uncomfortable to shoot--the .300 mag will have a little more "push" but will still be easy to live with and should be plenty accurate--my Rem in .300 WSM was a real tack driver--

jhilde - thanks for the heads up, i will check out buds. maybe i can get the gunsmith to order one from them and not to worried about recoil..I was shooting my .308 winchester 100 before the season this year and honestly didn't even notice the recoil, I am sure I will notice with the mag. but I don't think it will be enough to cause a flinch or anything of the kind

another question i thought of is - anybody know the average price for a trigger job, floating a barrel, glass bedding..etc

Here is the detachable magazine model;

http://www.remington.com/products/fi...00-sps-dm.aspx


Perfer stainless, but detachable box magazine is first priority for me.


BTW - also removed recoil pad & replace with pachmayr decelerator recoil pad.

I also definatly prefer the detachable magazine, do you know if that limits aftermarket parts for the gun or not?

Not to the best of my knowledge.......?

I also buy a extra magazine for all my rifles.

I cna definatly see an extra magazine being worth while

ridge runner & sheridan - thanks for the info
ridge runner, i will definatly check out the stocks from the companies you mentioned, and I will probably go with a good recoil pad, but I think I am going to skip the muzzle break, as I do not wear hearing protection while hunting, only while target shooting and I have heard that a muzzle break can make the noise quite loud

the new 700
 

I own and hunt with REmington 300 wm BDL model. Out ofthe box
it is very acurate.I have taken an elk with it, a buffalo.
the BDL is pretty. I can't imagine doing anymore to it.
I have a Leupold 3.5 x 9 vari III on it.The elk went down the first shot like a ton of bricks.that kind of money .
Maybe you should from scratch and build a custom rifle./
Shilen barrell,richards custom stock.New action...stuff like that.
that way you'll be spending a lot of money. and while you're at
it join the NRA...

jdweim...the rifle you are looking at is a great choice. Not sure your reasoning for the .300wm, as that is a cannon....but its your money. If you are planning on taking bigger game at long ranges, you probably couldn't pick a better caliber. If you are just a typical deer hunter, imo that is way overkill. I didn't read every post here, maybe you said why you chose the .300

Good luck and good shooting

i don't think i stated my reasoning yet, but i do mostly whitetail hunting, however I am hoping to go out elk hunting in a few years. Don't get me wrong my current round being the .308 i have had no problems dropping deer, but have had a few problems with getting pass thru shots on some of the larger deer i have shot. Including the th elarge doe I shot last Fri, I was letting the deer walk into the scope, but still pulled the trigger a hair early, bullet went in right in front of the near shoulder and lodged in the far shoulder, deer was slightly quartering toward me. dropped the deer in about 10 feet, though.

Congrats on your doe :party0005:
Non-pass thru's are more often a bullet issue than a caliber issue. But it can and does happen from time to time with even the best bullets.

Good luck with your new gun, once you get it

I was thinking that too.. like maybe esp. this year, I was almost wondering if the bullet opened too early or something like that
for info...bullet is .308 150 grain remington core lokt
i did notice the entrance wound seemed a little larger than normal, being about the size of a nickel, i still have the hide, if i have a chance tonight maybe I will go take a look at the hole

What did your bullet look like? (you said you found it)
Core lokt usually perform pretty well, though not really considered a premium bullet.

There are also two schools of thought out there...1 says they want a small entry hole, and larger exit hole on every shot. Others say they DON'T want it to exit...to stop just prior so as to expend all energy IN the animal. I personally prefer two holes :) I like better blood trails in case that your shot is not as good as it needed to be.

sorry i did not find the bullet, when i said it lodged in the shoulder i meant that is where the damage stopped (sorry for the confusion), the far shoulder was completely shredded, so was the chest plate.
Also i shot a knub buck on Nov. 19 with a nice pass thru and very little damage, but I also made a much better shot sticking the bullet right behind the front shoulders on a perfectly broadside shot, dropping out both lungs and damaging no meat, entry wound about the size just smaller than a dime, exit wound about the size of a silver dollar. Then again the shot are really not comparable, as the doe was about 80-90 yards and the knub was about 17-20 yards. The doe i hit a lot of bone, the knub I just hit some ribs.

after doing some more research, now I am seriously considering the .280 rem. round, Any thoughts on this caliber

Great round, highly under-rated and under-used.

thats what i was thinking, according to the charts i have looked at it seems it out-flies the 30-06 as far as trajectory and can load a heavier bullet than the .270 with almost the same trajectory

Now you're talkin! :party0005:
I bought a .280 mountain rifle new in 1987....killed probably 100 with it since. Lights out...amazing caliber. My only deer rifle, other than my m/l. I wouldn't hesitate to use it on big game such as elk either. I use 139gr handloads....good stuff.

that was going to be my next question, is what grain would you use...I see the typical factory loads, come in 140gr, 150gr, and 160gr with the 140 having the best ballistics. Was wondering how that 140gr bullet was handling deer as far as staying together, because I like the pass thru shots, not the exploded bullet shots.

See, I don't see how this is impressive, but maybe it's just me. My Savage right out of the box, with no gunsmith work, no trigger work, no hand lapping the barrel, and just shooting not following any break in procedure, shot .8" groups with both factory Federal Power Shok and Winchester Power Point ammo. With reloads it got down to constant .4-.5" groups at 100 yards, which is 1/2MOA.

That said, it's no way I'd buy a new Remington, but that's just my opinion.

140gr is probably the most widely used, a great size for any .7mm caliber gun (7mm-08, 7mm mag, .280, etc)
Any of the premium bullets should work well for you, and if you ever decide to handload the options are endless.

Agree that 1 moa is not overly impressive (but its very good), and it sounds like your gun is a real shooter. A guy in our hunting camp bought a 700 ADL (the cheap one) a few years ago in .270. With nothing done to it at all and factory remington core lokt ammo, it shot a .6" group at 100yds. I couldn't believe it. My gun will do that, but I've had trigger work and shoot handloads. Just goes to show you that it doesn't matter the make/model....some guns are shooters. Others, you can work on em till kingdom comes to get a MOA shooter.

yeah i was lookin online and i see that hornady makes a 139 gr in their superformance line that is supposed to go >3000 FPS about $31 a box, but as of right now i know nothing about handloading, wouldn't mind learning though

300wm is a great caliber as far as upgrades if i was you i would do as money allows

can go wrong with a leupold scope
rifle basix trigger 140ish if budget allows get a jewel 230$
bell and carlson medalist stock 210$ if u can afford it go with a mcmillian i think around 600 fully bedded
decelerator recoil pad really helps with the recoil
match grade barrel if budget allows 315 + chamber and thread 150ish depends on smith

then you would have a real shooter :) my bell and carlson we never had to bed it shot great groups unbedded so we left it