Help me compare the recoil between these 2 rifles.....
10-20-2011, 11:30 AM
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Fork Horn
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Help me compare the recoil between these 2 rifles.....
So I'm pretty much sure that I'm going to order a New Ultra Light Arms Rifle from Melvin.
I'm trying to get an idea of what recoil might be like from such a light weight rifle, and how it compares with what I'm used to. I'm not really recoil sensitive, so it may not make much difference anyway.
Here's my comparison.....
My current .300 Win. Mag. weighs 8 1/4 lbs with scope. I'm shooting 180gr. loads at around 3,000fps.
Compare that to a......
.30-06 shooting 165gr. loads at around 2900fps. in a rifle with a scoped weight of 6 1/4 lbs.
or...
.280 Rem. shooting 140gr. loads in the same 6 1/4 lb. rifle.
Your help would be appreciated
SCHOOLCRAFT
I'm trying to get an idea of what recoil might be like from such a light weight rifle, and how it compares with what I'm used to. I'm not really recoil sensitive, so it may not make much difference anyway.
Here's my comparison.....
My current .300 Win. Mag. weighs 8 1/4 lbs with scope. I'm shooting 180gr. loads at around 3,000fps.
Compare that to a......
.30-06 shooting 165gr. loads at around 2900fps. in a rifle with a scoped weight of 6 1/4 lbs.
or...
.280 Rem. shooting 140gr. loads in the same 6 1/4 lb. rifle.
Your help would be appreciated
SCHOOLCRAFT
10-20-2011, 12:05 PM
#2
Nontypical Buck
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man yer all over the place..what cal ya gettin in the ultra light?
you say compare 2..but ya got 3 guns posted..
if yer shootin a win mag, then it probably wont matter like ya said.
comparin a 270 to a 300 win mag is just like comparing any other 2 cals, it is like comparing horses, to horse power.
you say compare 2..but ya got 3 guns posted..
if yer shootin a win mag, then it probably wont matter like ya said.
comparin a 270 to a 300 win mag is just like comparing any other 2 cals, it is like comparing horses, to horse power.
10-20-2011, 01:39 PM
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Fork Horn
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Sorry if the original post was a little scattered.......
I'm going to order a NULA model 24 left hand in either a .270 Win., .280 Rem. or .30-06.
All three calibers have such similar recoil (at least to me) that I can't really tell them apart.
I was just wondering how the recoil of one of these calibers in a 6 1/4lb gun might compare to the recoil of my current .300 Win. Mag. which weighs 8 1/4lbs.
Any opinions on WHICH CALIBER TO CHOOSE or the recoil difference between these and my .300 Winny would be welcomed........
I'm going to order a NULA model 24 left hand in either a .270 Win., .280 Rem. or .30-06.
All three calibers have such similar recoil (at least to me) that I can't really tell them apart.
I was just wondering how the recoil of one of these calibers in a 6 1/4lb gun might compare to the recoil of my current .300 Win. Mag. which weighs 8 1/4lbs.
Any opinions on WHICH CALIBER TO CHOOSE or the recoil difference between these and my .300 Winny would be welcomed........
10-20-2011, 03:13 PM
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Nontypical Buck
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http://www.chuckhawks.com/recoil_table.htm
For what's worth, take a look. I have a feeling that you might have less felt recoil with your 300win mag.
For what's worth, take a look. I have a feeling that you might have less felt recoil with your 300win mag.
10-20-2011, 04:29 PM
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Nontypical Buck
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Here we go again.....
Let's put a more practical twist on this than simply "recoil." Consider that the .300 and .30-06 are capable of throwing EXACTLY the same projectiles (bullets). The .300 simply pushes them faster (and farther as a consequence). If you intend to keep the .300, there's little reason to select the .30-06, and particularly in an ultralight.
My recommendation between the two calibers you list would without question be the .280. I'd be tempted to look into the .264s though as well.
Let's put a more practical twist on this than simply "recoil." Consider that the .300 and .30-06 are capable of throwing EXACTLY the same projectiles (bullets). The .300 simply pushes them faster (and farther as a consequence). If you intend to keep the .300, there's little reason to select the .30-06, and particularly in an ultralight.
My recommendation between the two calibers you list would without question be the .280. I'd be tempted to look into the .264s though as well.
10-20-2011, 04:52 PM
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Nontypical Buck
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http://www.chuckhawks.com/recoil_table.htm
For what's worth, take a look. I have a feeling that you might have less felt recoil with your 300win mag.
For what's worth, take a look. I have a feeling that you might have less felt recoil with your 300win mag.
The 8-1/4 lb .300 generates 28.6 ft/lbs of Free Recoil Energy and Recoil Velocity of 14.9 fps.
The 6-1/4 lb .280 generates 22.2 ft/lbs of Free Recoil Energy and a Recoil Velocity of 15.1 fps.
A likely load in a 6-1/4 lb .30-06 (165 gr @ 2900) generates 24.3 ft/lbs of Free Recoil Energy and a Recoil Velocity of 15.7 fps.
For what any of that is worth....
10-20-2011, 05:56 PM
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Fork Horn
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I hunt with a Rem. 700 LSS Mountain rifle 30-06, weighs between 6-7 lbs. I shoot 165 grain bullets, and have no problem with the recoil. I have stayed away from the 300's because I don't enjoy heavy recoil (I've never shot a 300 Win Mag, but have shot a 7mm Mag and did not enjoy it). Granted, it could have been the stock design, recoil pad, etc, but that's my 2 cents worth.
10-20-2011, 07:12 PM
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Fork Horn
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So, for what it's worth.....
Looks like whether I went with the .280 Rem. or the .30-06, the recoil should be a little less than what I get with my current .300 Win. Mag.
That actually helps a lot.
And for the previous post that asked if I was going to have my .300 AND this ultralight....no.
I would be selling the .300 to help pay for this NULA. The 06 ' class of calibers suits my hunting needs much better than the .300 Win. Mag. I honestly should have built a .270/.280/.06' in the first place.....but I sure have learned a lot from the experience!!!
Looks like whether I went with the .280 Rem. or the .30-06, the recoil should be a little less than what I get with my current .300 Win. Mag.
That actually helps a lot.
And for the previous post that asked if I was going to have my .300 AND this ultralight....no.
I would be selling the .300 to help pay for this NULA. The 06 ' class of calibers suits my hunting needs much better than the .300 Win. Mag. I honestly should have built a .270/.280/.06' in the first place.....but I sure have learned a lot from the experience!!!
10-20-2011, 08:38 PM
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Fork Horn
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I must ask, what is your intended purpose of an ultra lightweight rifle? My idea of a lightweight rifle is a browning Xbolt with a lightweight scope. They go under 7lbs in 300win plus the glass. So you add 12oz or so for some lightweight glass. I dont see it making a big difference in packing in anywhere. If it did, I would be inclined to believe its a matter of lack of physical conditioning for the hunt. If our men could win WWII with an 11lb M1 Garand, then an 8lb rifle is a walk in the park IMO. Now if you are looking for another toy, well, dont let me get in the way of a man wanting more guns,lol.