I love walmart
 

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It is about time, our store here in town does not sell them, the guy said they talked about doing so since they had in the 90s but opted not to, maybe they will now. :patriot::patriot:

While I don't share your "love" of Walmart I see they have chosen profits over politically correctness.

This is a company who took a notion from its founder (Sam Walton) and threw it in the trash to fund third world manufacturing.

I do remember the days you could buy a perfectly good Remington ADL for around $249 and sometimes less. Thats a great price for a donor action.

I do agree, some if not most of their goods are well worthless, nothing like a tent that rips day one, a alarm clock that does not work, or my ohh so fav a air matterst that comes with factory holes. But the ammo is cheap, and most hunting stuff is the same stuff gander and cabelas sells, sure I did not buy my muzzleloader there, or my glock, or my range finder, but like I said AMMO IS CHEAP, they were 40 lower on the mossberg 500 my buddy bought

Reading the comments on the page was interesting. Elitists calling every gun owner rednecks, etc.

Walmart is crap.. selling guns or not selling guns. Anything anti-small business can go blow one in my opinion.

If small biz cant compete w/ walmart than they dont deserve to be in biz ,thats called the free market, maybe youve heard of it? WM is an easy target for the the populist crowd, but the fact is they create thousands of jobs and their low prices are a hedge against inflation.

Actually they are a significant cause of inflation. Small business cant compete against walmart, with their chinese import connections and just above cost pricing, or their very low wage jobs. You're asking, how does wally world affect inflation? What happens when you buy everything from overseas, but dont export anything to that country to offset it? You end up sending more money out then whats coming in. In order to offset that, more money is printed, and devalues the dollar, leading to the dollar not buying as much as it did from said country. Now you have to send more money over there to buy the stuff, it costs more over here, and your dollar doesnt go as far. It doesnt take brain surgery to see where that will go. There is a such thing as capitalism, then there is a thing called ignorance and greed. In the long term, walmart and other companies that wish to promote this flunking economics in high school mindset, will eventually sink their own ship. Sad part is, there isnt enough life boats, and we are all going down with it.

I aint buyn that, weve been buying that cheap chicom stuf since the 90s but we havent seen inflation like this, till after obamas "stimulous" disaster, that created nothing, now they have to print funny money to pay the chicoms intrest on the loan. thats whats causing the spike in inflation, in the past year or so, so blame obama not WM.

Also usually when people talk about "greed" they really mean people with more than them, which is what I call "envy" which is the real problem in this country, which why we have obama to deal w/ in the 1st place .

These "greedy corps" have share holders who depend on their stock values for their modest incomes.

You guys crack me up with this BS. Before you get your little panties in a wad know how Walmart started out. Sam Walton started out a one man small business retail store called Walton's Five and Dime just like the majority of other business in the country. Don't get all pissed off that Sam Walton knew WTF he was doing and "made it" and the others didn't.

Good for walmart in a return to selling firearms. It's a step in the right direction.

+1, I agree 110%!!!!!!!

Last I checked, Wal-Mart sells, Remingtons, Savages, and Marlins. None of wich are imported. This is probably coming from some one that owns Brownings, Weatherbys, and Taurus's, uses Nikon optics, and drives a Toyota!

yeah like the "mom & pops" arent selling chicom goods, right? gimme a break, they sell the same crap, they just mark up the price more. "m&p"s are good 4 1 thing, convenience.

all they sell in the ones around here are daisys and crossmansLOL
Dont think this new change of policy reaches to NY either:mad:

Firearms sales make up a small part of walmart's sales. Trust me, if there wasnt so much regulation, walmart would be selling model 700 chinese clones. Next time you go to walmart, let me know if you can do all of your non-grocery shopping without buying a single thing from China. It will be difficult. There are plenty of mom and pops that do sell the same thing as the big box stores. Go to walmart and ask one of their "specialists" about a particular gun, or paint type, or fabric. Now go to the mom and pop shops, and ask. You stand a higher chance of getting an intelligent answer from the small business. Another pro for the small business, is their money has a better chance of staying local. Most of walmart's revenues do not stay in the local community. Even if small businesses are so horrible, it was walmart who was the trailblazer by stocking chinese cloned merchandise. They led the way, and everyone is following. Just because something is cheaper now, doesnt mean its cheaper in the long run. Take an economics course, and learn how the money system works, and what trade deficits mean. Then go back and evaluate your stance on walmart or buying extensively from china.
As for me Fritz, my wife owns one browning X bolt, I have one Norinco SKS, and one Remington 798. Those were all imported. I also own 3 marlins, 3 winchesters, some colts, kimbers, rra, etc. We both drive north american built Fords and all but one rifle is scoped with Leupolds. So much for the stereotyping. BTW, Toyotas build alot of vehicles here, and the ones they do build usually contain more american parts then the american car companies do. So driving a 'yota may in fact be driving an american vehicle. Yes they are headquartered in Japan, but where is the parent company of Browning-Winchester, etc, all based? Fabrique National isnt american.
Teddy Roosevelt once said, no company should be so large that its success or failure would have a direct effect on the country. Imagine what would happen if walmart went under in a matter of months? Imagine what happens when China starts to flex even more of its muscle on our foriegn affairs?

That is exactly why I dont own a Winchester or a Browning, Oh I am sorry I do own a Winchester, it is a model 100 284 win. that is made in the U.S.A and I do own a couple of Brownings and the are the old Belgium made Brownings, made when Browning made a real gun! That I inherited. As far as Toyota is concerned, yeah they might be made in America, but when sold where do you think all the money goes? Japan!!! I hope that Trump becomes president, because when that happens he is going to install a 25% tax on all imported items, maybe then you people will start buying American and support our economy instead of complaing about it while you are purchasing forieng made products.

Hey Fritz, I've been pointing out the problem, but for some reason you seem to want to attack me. I'm all for the import tax. I'm all against walmart importing all of their junk from china, so why the hostility? You just said yourself you agree. Ever had your car fixed lately Fritz? Guess where those parts probably came from? You wish to stereotype me, and agree with me, what, are you bipolar?lol. Last I checked, you are an american, you prolly one of them people who pay taxes so it can go pay our debt to china, yet want to bash people who point out the problems. I do not know what your damage is, unless you just like pick a fight. This whole bashfest you instigated has gone way off topic, and should stop. Go start your own post if you want to attack me.

what regulations? they already make a chinese 870 clone and ithaca 37 clone, actually thers alot of clones out there, its called, the patent ran out:s13: Who goes to walmart for "expert advice"? people go there for low prices, there is absolutely nothing that walmart sells that I need adviice about.
so you aknowledge that the mom and pops sell the same crap but they know more about it so we should pay more for it? uh ok.

both of you guys sound like protectionists who cant accept the concept of freemarket enterprise. lemme break it down for you both , trade is when you buy a product because you desire to own it and you barter with the least amount of currency required by the lowest bidder, you dont pay more so some guy can fabricate a job for himself.

I do not go into a m&p or a big store expecting gun advice, I have been screwed by both, I have seen walmarts with true shooters and hunters behind the desk, and I left a mom and pop gun shop the other day having had the guy tell me he did not know what a m9 was :confused0024:. I might not be able to go USA all the way at walmart(unlikely any mom and pop store either) but I can do it for 25% less money, which means MORE AMMO. Our local gun shop sells 9mms for 39.99 a box for 100 rounds of WWB, walmart is 24.99, I say **** the little gun shop I Ant paying it, thought that could be because he sucks any way

World economics has become much more complicated with this international market.

When congress decided to de-regulate the banking industry, banks started making ARMs (Adjustable Rate Morgages) look attractive only to have interest rates skyrocket later causing many to foreclose. Business paused in hiring, many started layoffs speculating a downturn in the economy. When our economy fell, every market in the world also fell.

A very simplistic view but to try to explain something like market forces in few words is like trying to catch a marlin (the fish) with a toothpick.

How do you look at Walmart? Imagine a family with young children are going to need money for future college. The parents put a major portion of their savings into a college fund. To get the most return for their money, who do they pick? A company who's market and manufacturing (or suppliers) solely depends upon the U.S. (U.S. wages, unions, regulations, etc.) or one that markets worldwide?

The same parents buys U.S. whenever they can. I wonder how many people have invested in companies which manufacture goods overseas, knowingly or unknowingly?

Personally, I welcome this news. Another access to purchase firearms will help with the local prices. The sellers here are usually pawn shops or gun ranges. I walked into a local pawnshop to browse firearms and saw an old Browning .22 handgun, probably pre-WWI, ON SALE for $300+. I bought my SKB 585 shotgun at the few dedicated gun store for $1200+. Prices here are about a 1/3 more than elsewhere (not including a 9% tax).

The reason mom and pop stores are more money for the same item as a big box store is because of volume. Walmart is the largest retailer in the world plain and simple. They tell the manufacturer what they are willing to pay for an item and the manufacturer can either agree to sell their product at the price Walmart is willing to pay or they can say no and miss out. Mom and Pop stores can not compete with this. Walmart might spend say $5,000,000 on inventory in a day while a mom and pop would spend that in a year or two years.
There is one large problem with the loss of other retailers. Once there is only one place you can shop and there is no one left to compete with the store can then raise their prices to whatever they want to and there is little anyone can do about it since there is no where else to shop. Wlamart's business practices are dirty and yes they may employ many 1000s of people, those people are paid a low wage, are often not given enough hours to maintain their benefits, and are often treated poorly. My younger brother worked for them while attending college and told me first hand how poorly the employees are treated.
Another example about how we take it in the shorts from large corporations. Look at the oil industry. The large corporations are buying up all the smaller companies. Now that there are very few small companies out there the larger companies can now set their price as high as they want. They can say the reason for the price hike was because of having to shut down a plant for maintaince or because the middle east or what have you but the facts are there are surplus' in place for these very reasons.

When you have many companies out there competing against one another they have to keep the price low. When you have one or two companies out there they can do what they want.

Walmart has plenty of competition , target, kohls, big lots etc. all the local grocers not to mention all those dollar stores, plus theres plenty of "mom and pop" stores around my area for convenience too. I also dont believe when people say walmart treats it employees bad, Im sure some dont like working there, but at the one near me Ive see the same people working there for years how bad can it be?

as a door greeter what do think one should make for a zero skill job ?
My buddy works for wal mart. he makes 21.00 an hr , has awsome benifits, no hes not a door greeter or a cashier.
wal mart pays if you have skills.
A cashier or associate is an entry level job and pays accordingly, wanna make more get some skills, its that simple

X2! Society today, in the era of rampant welfare and unemployment, is generally given to entitlement. People think they should have things given to them. This doesn't end with those folks, however. Too many with jobs think it is ridiculous that they have lower wages. Most of these, as zrex pointed out, are working jobs that do not require skill. Sure, the guy next door may take my money to bandage up a gaping wound, but I'd rather spend more money and go to someone that has acquired the necessary skills to perform such acts. Most folks, at least around me, simply cannot get it through their heads that jobs that require little to no skill will never bring in big $. That ain't gonna change anytime soon, either.

I read in todays paper{ NY Daily News } that for every 2 jobs that Walmart creates 3 jobs are lost at mom & pop operations.

..... I agree totally. What you have to thank for that kind of thinking is the Union mentality. It's no wonder that the automotive industry in this country went belly-up or close to it. I t just makes absolutely zero sense that you pay a low-level skill job worker $75K/yr. to sell a car to the guy out on the street who's making less than $50K. Same thing just happened in the housing market... remember? Unions were good to get the miner out of the mud and the wet and gas. They have FAR succeeded their worthfulness. A blight on our economy.

Another huge economic threat are the vertical monopolies. A vertical monopoly is the market condition where a person or entity controls everything from raw material to selling. There are large corporations that own a lot of farm land. These same corporations own the companies that sell the seed for planting, the elevators/terminals for buying the crops, the distribution system to the food processor and finally the food processor. These vertical monopolies are working on increasing the scope of their monopoly. An example is a vertical monopoly of agricultural food commodities (grains, corn, beans, etc.) taking control of livestock markets (meats). Basically, the food system in this country is turning into a cartel like OPEC. The same is happening to the ferrous and non-ferrous businesses. Those who have put their safety net in paper gold (certificates) will likely be very disappointed. Many analysts believe that gold is way oversold (more gold sold than exists). This is why you see some large corporations hedging the markets by taking delivery of their gold.

When I talk about Walmart treating their people badly I speak from my brothers experience with them. He told me many things that were done by management. One example is that if they did not at least match the sales of the previous year on that given day then they were to cut employees hours to compensate for the loss in revenue. They don't take into count other contributing factors as to why sales were off that day. I fully understand that Walmart is a business and as such they are there to make a profit first and foremost. I am just not a fan of some of their pratices. The benefit package that my brother had was nothing that impressed me. He was in the management program and was offered a little better package than standard employees. I guess for the type of work it is the benefits are ok.
There are many problems in our country right now that has contributed to the poor state of our economy. Walmart just happens to be one piece of that puzzle.

I agree,
people always make the complaint that walmart pays low salaries,
these are mostly stock boy and cashier postions,
those have always been min wage jobs no matter where,
if someone is trying to support a family on a min wage stock/cashier job they should have thought about why they only qualify for such jobs,
mom and pop stores are no different, they pay min wage for min wage jobs,
i enjoy both, local mom and pop stores, and large stores like walmart,
the convenience of getting just about anything at anytime, is what makes walmart what it is,
want to be fishing/hunting by 6am,
good luck picking up supplies anywhere else at 5am,

also for quality of merchandise,
walmart stocks the same crap mom and pop stores stock, very little difference in merchandise

nah he works at one of the distribution centers here in Texas.
He basically moves trailers around with a bobtail truck for others to load and unload.
He works 3 days a week and gets 40 to 50 hrs in that time has 2 weeks vacation 1 day a month sick leave 2 days per 6 months un excused. One infraction is called a step, 4 steps in 6 months your fired. Its almost impossible to get fired from there, youd have to be one lazy person .
so roughly about a 130 days a year is all he works with benifts and 44 k plus a year.
Gravy job.