I love walmart
04-30-2011, 12:53 PM
#11
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Idaho
Posts: 1,081
Actually they are a significant cause of inflation. Small business cant compete against walmart, with their chinese import connections and just above cost pricing, or their very low wage jobs. You're asking, how does wally world affect inflation? What happens when you buy everything from overseas, but dont export anything to that country to offset it? You end up sending more money out then whats coming in. In order to offset that, more money is printed, and devalues the dollar, leading to the dollar not buying as much as it did from said country. Now you have to send more money over there to buy the stuff, it costs more over here, and your dollar doesnt go as far. It doesnt take brain surgery to see where that will go. There is a such thing as capitalism, then there is a thing called ignorance and greed. In the long term, walmart and other companies that wish to promote this flunking economics in high school mindset, will eventually sink their own ship. Sad part is, there isnt enough life boats, and we are all going down with it.
04-30-2011, 01:07 PM
#13
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Orange county, NY
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04-30-2011, 04:08 PM
#14
Fork Horn
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Colorado Springs
Posts: 360
Firearms sales make up a small part of walmart's sales. Trust me, if there wasnt so much regulation, walmart would be selling model 700 chinese clones. Next time you go to walmart, let me know if you can do all of your non-grocery shopping without buying a single thing from China. It will be difficult. There are plenty of mom and pops that do sell the same thing as the big box stores. Go to walmart and ask one of their "specialists" about a particular gun, or paint type, or fabric. Now go to the mom and pop shops, and ask. You stand a higher chance of getting an intelligent answer from the small business. Another pro for the small business, is their money has a better chance of staying local. Most of walmart's revenues do not stay in the local community. Even if small businesses are so horrible, it was walmart who was the trailblazer by stocking chinese cloned merchandise. They led the way, and everyone is following. Just because something is cheaper now, doesnt mean its cheaper in the long run. Take an economics course, and learn how the money system works, and what trade deficits mean. Then go back and evaluate your stance on walmart or buying extensively from china.
As for me Fritz, my wife owns one browning X bolt, I have one Norinco SKS, and one Remington 798. Those were all imported. I also own 3 marlins, 3 winchesters, some colts, kimbers, rra, etc. We both drive north american built Fords and all but one rifle is scoped with Leupolds. So much for the stereotyping. BTW, Toyotas build alot of vehicles here, and the ones they do build usually contain more american parts then the american car companies do. So driving a 'yota may in fact be driving an american vehicle. Yes they are headquartered in Japan, but where is the parent company of Browning-Winchester, etc, all based? Fabrique National isnt american.
Teddy Roosevelt once said, no company should be so large that its success or failure would have a direct effect on the country. Imagine what would happen if walmart went under in a matter of months? Imagine what happens when China starts to flex even more of its muscle on our foriegn affairs?
As for me Fritz, my wife owns one browning X bolt, I have one Norinco SKS, and one Remington 798. Those were all imported. I also own 3 marlins, 3 winchesters, some colts, kimbers, rra, etc. We both drive north american built Fords and all but one rifle is scoped with Leupolds. So much for the stereotyping. BTW, Toyotas build alot of vehicles here, and the ones they do build usually contain more american parts then the american car companies do. So driving a 'yota may in fact be driving an american vehicle. Yes they are headquartered in Japan, but where is the parent company of Browning-Winchester, etc, all based? Fabrique National isnt american.
Teddy Roosevelt once said, no company should be so large that its success or failure would have a direct effect on the country. Imagine what would happen if walmart went under in a matter of months? Imagine what happens when China starts to flex even more of its muscle on our foriegn affairs?
04-30-2011, 05:39 PM
#15
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Idaho
Posts: 1,081
Firearms sales make up a small part of walmart's sales. Trust me, if there wasnt so much regulation, walmart would be selling model 700 chinese clones. Next time you go to walmart, let me know if you can do all of your non-grocery shopping without buying a single thing from China. It will be difficult. There are plenty of mom and pops that do sell the same thing as the big box stores. Go to walmart and ask one of their "specialists" about a particular gun, or paint type, or fabric. Now go to the mom and pop shops, and ask. You stand a higher chance of getting an intelligent answer from the small business. Another pro for the small business, is their money has a better chance of staying local. Most of walmart's revenues do not stay in the local community. Even if small businesses are so horrible, it was walmart who was the trailblazer by stocking chinese cloned merchandise. They led the way, and everyone is following. Just because something is cheaper now, doesnt mean its cheaper in the long run. Take an economics course, and learn how the money system works, and what trade deficits mean. Then go back and evaluate your stance on walmart or buying extensively from china.
As for me Fritz, my wife owns one browning X bolt, I have one Norinco SKS, and one Remington 798. Those were all imported. I also own 3 marlins, 3 winchesters, some colts, kimbers, rra, etc. We both drive north american built Fords and all but one rifle is scoped with Leupolds. So much for the stereotyping. BTW, Toyotas build alot of vehicles here, and the ones they do build usually contain more american parts then the american car companies do. So driving a 'yota may in fact be driving an american vehicle. Yes they are headquartered in Japan, but where is the parent company of Browning-Winchester, etc, all based? Fabrique National isnt american.
Teddy Roosevelt once said, no company should be so large that its success or failure would have a direct effect on the country. Imagine what would happen if walmart went under in a matter of months? Imagine what happens when China starts to flex even more of its muscle on our foriegn affairs?
As for me Fritz, my wife owns one browning X bolt, I have one Norinco SKS, and one Remington 798. Those were all imported. I also own 3 marlins, 3 winchesters, some colts, kimbers, rra, etc. We both drive north american built Fords and all but one rifle is scoped with Leupolds. So much for the stereotyping. BTW, Toyotas build alot of vehicles here, and the ones they do build usually contain more american parts then the american car companies do. So driving a 'yota may in fact be driving an american vehicle. Yes they are headquartered in Japan, but where is the parent company of Browning-Winchester, etc, all based? Fabrique National isnt american.
Teddy Roosevelt once said, no company should be so large that its success or failure would have a direct effect on the country. Imagine what would happen if walmart went under in a matter of months? Imagine what happens when China starts to flex even more of its muscle on our foriegn affairs?
04-30-2011, 06:06 PM
#16
Fork Horn
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Colorado Springs
Posts: 360
Hey Fritz, I've been pointing out the problem, but for some reason you seem to want to attack me. I'm all for the import tax. I'm all against walmart importing all of their junk from china, so why the hostility? You just said yourself you agree. Ever had your car fixed lately Fritz? Guess where those parts probably came from? You wish to stereotype me, and agree with me, what, are you bipolar?lol. Last I checked, you are an american, you prolly one of them people who pay taxes so it can go pay our debt to china, yet want to bash people who point out the problems. I do not know what your damage is, unless you just like pick a fight. This whole bashfest you instigated has gone way off topic, and should stop. Go start your own post if you want to attack me.
04-30-2011, 06:16 PM
#17
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Orange county, NY
Posts: 2,949
Next time you go to walmart, let me know if you can do all of your non-grocery shopping without buying a single thing from China. It will be difficult. There are plenty of mom and pops that do sell the same thing as the big box stores. Go to walmart and ask one of their "specialists" about a particular gun, or paint type, or fabric. Now go to the mom and pop shops, and ask. You stand a higher chance of getting an intelligent answer from the small business?
so you aknowledge that the mom and pops sell the same crap but they know more about it so we should pay more for it? uh ok.
04-30-2011, 06:26 PM
#18
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Orange county, NY
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Hey Fritz, I've been pointing out the problem, but for some reason you seem to want to attack me. I'm all for the import tax. I'm all against walmart importing all of their junk from china, so why the hostility? You just said yourself you agree. Ever had your car fixed lately Fritz? Guess where those parts probably came from? You wish to stereotype me, and agree with me, what, are you bipolar?lol. Last I checked, you are an american, you prolly one of them people who pay taxes so it can go pay our debt to china, yet want to bash people who point out the problems. I do not know what your damage is, unless you just like pick a fight. This whole bashfest you instigated has gone way off topic, and should stop. Go start your own post if you want to attack me.
05-01-2011, 06:24 AM
#19
Giant Nontypical
Thread Starter
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 6,867
I do not go into a m&p or a big store expecting gun advice, I have been screwed by both, I have seen walmarts with true shooters and hunters behind the desk, and I left a mom and pop gun shop the other day having had the guy tell me he did not know what a m9 was 
. I might not be able to go USA all the way at walmart(unlikely any mom and pop store either) but I can do it for 25% less money, which means MORE AMMO. Our local gun shop sells 9mms for 39.99 a box for 100 rounds of WWB, walmart is 24.99, I say **** the little gun shop I Ant paying it, thought that could be because he sucks any way
. I might not be able to go USA all the way at walmart(unlikely any mom and pop store either) but I can do it for 25% less money, which means MORE AMMO. Our local gun shop sells 9mms for 39.99 a box for 100 rounds of WWB, walmart is 24.99, I say **** the little gun shop I Ant paying it, thought that could be because he sucks any way Firearms sales make up a small part of walmart's sales. Trust me, if there wasnt so much regulation, walmart would be selling model 700 chinese clones. Next time you go to walmart, let me know if you can do all of your non-grocery shopping without buying a single thing from China. It will be difficult. There are plenty of mom and pops that do sell the same thing as the big box stores. Go to walmart and ask one of their "specialists" about a particular gun, or paint type, or fabric. Now go to the mom and pop shops, and ask. You stand a higher chance of getting an intelligent answer from the small business. Another pro for the small business, is their money has a better chance of staying local. Most of walmart's revenues do not stay in the local community. Even if small businesses are so horrible, it was walmart who was the trailblazer by stocking chinese cloned merchandise. They led the way, and everyone is following. Just because something is cheaper now, doesnt mean its cheaper in the long run. Take an economics course, and learn how the money system works, and what trade deficits mean. Then go back and evaluate your stance on walmart or buying extensively from china.
As for me Fritz, my wife owns one browning X bolt, I have one Norinco SKS, and one Remington 798. Those were all imported. I also own 3 marlins, 3 winchesters, some colts, kimbers, rra, etc. We both drive north american built Fords and all but one rifle is scoped with Leupolds. So much for the stereotyping. BTW, Toyotas build alot of vehicles here, and the ones they do build usually contain more american parts then the american car companies do. So driving a 'yota may in fact be driving an american vehicle. Yes they are headquartered in Japan, but where is the parent company of Browning-Winchester, etc, all based? Fabrique National isnt american.
Teddy Roosevelt once said, no company should be so large that its success or failure would have a direct effect on the country. Imagine what would happen if walmart went under in a matter of months? Imagine what happens when China starts to flex even more of its muscle on our foriegn affairs?
As for me Fritz, my wife owns one browning X bolt, I have one Norinco SKS, and one Remington 798. Those were all imported. I also own 3 marlins, 3 winchesters, some colts, kimbers, rra, etc. We both drive north american built Fords and all but one rifle is scoped with Leupolds. So much for the stereotyping. BTW, Toyotas build alot of vehicles here, and the ones they do build usually contain more american parts then the american car companies do. So driving a 'yota may in fact be driving an american vehicle. Yes they are headquartered in Japan, but where is the parent company of Browning-Winchester, etc, all based? Fabrique National isnt american.
Teddy Roosevelt once said, no company should be so large that its success or failure would have a direct effect on the country. Imagine what would happen if walmart went under in a matter of months? Imagine what happens when China starts to flex even more of its muscle on our foriegn affairs?
05-02-2011, 04:14 AM
#20
Typical Buck
Join Date: Oct 2004
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World economics has become much more complicated with this international market.
When congress decided to de-regulate the banking industry, banks started making ARMs (Adjustable Rate Morgages) look attractive only to have interest rates skyrocket later causing many to foreclose. Business paused in hiring, many started layoffs speculating a downturn in the economy. When our economy fell, every market in the world also fell.
A very simplistic view but to try to explain something like market forces in few words is like trying to catch a marlin (the fish) with a toothpick.
How do you look at Walmart? Imagine a family with young children are going to need money for future college. The parents put a major portion of their savings into a college fund. To get the most return for their money, who do they pick? A company who's market and manufacturing (or suppliers) solely depends upon the U.S. (U.S. wages, unions, regulations, etc.) or one that markets worldwide?
The same parents buys U.S. whenever they can. I wonder how many people have invested in companies which manufacture goods overseas, knowingly or unknowingly?
Personally, I welcome this news. Another access to purchase firearms will help with the local prices. The sellers here are usually pawn shops or gun ranges. I walked into a local pawnshop to browse firearms and saw an old Browning .22 handgun, probably pre-WWI, ON SALE for $300+. I bought my SKB 585 shotgun at the few dedicated gun store for $1200+. Prices here are about a 1/3 more than elsewhere (not including a 9% tax).
When congress decided to de-regulate the banking industry, banks started making ARMs (Adjustable Rate Morgages) look attractive only to have interest rates skyrocket later causing many to foreclose. Business paused in hiring, many started layoffs speculating a downturn in the economy. When our economy fell, every market in the world also fell.
A very simplistic view but to try to explain something like market forces in few words is like trying to catch a marlin (the fish) with a toothpick.
How do you look at Walmart? Imagine a family with young children are going to need money for future college. The parents put a major portion of their savings into a college fund. To get the most return for their money, who do they pick? A company who's market and manufacturing (or suppliers) solely depends upon the U.S. (U.S. wages, unions, regulations, etc.) or one that markets worldwide?
The same parents buys U.S. whenever they can. I wonder how many people have invested in companies which manufacture goods overseas, knowingly or unknowingly?
Personally, I welcome this news. Another access to purchase firearms will help with the local prices. The sellers here are usually pawn shops or gun ranges. I walked into a local pawnshop to browse firearms and saw an old Browning .22 handgun, probably pre-WWI, ON SALE for $300+. I bought my SKB 585 shotgun at the few dedicated gun store for $1200+. Prices here are about a 1/3 more than elsewhere (not including a 9% tax).