warbirdlover

You've got the right idea. It's always better to hold the gun in your hands, cycle the bolt and look at the workmanship and wood.

If you do that you'll easily catch the Model 70's you don't want. They were fugly. If it looks nice and cycles smooth it shoould be a good one.

hoyt3

anyone that blindly says the 70 is a cheap pos is on crack. I've got four 70s...223, 243, 25-06 and 30-06. My latest groups was a 6 shot group out of my 25 at 100 yds that totalled .400". yep, inaccurate guns and made poorly, yep...go stand at 400 yds and tell me that. All my 70's are tack drivers even with factory ammo. ALL are post 64

statjunk

There was a known quality issue for a period of time after post 64. Lets call it till the mid 70's.

The 80's-90's M70 are sought after for custom builds. The new M70 are freakin amazing.

Yes I would agree hard to go wrong with a M70.

Tom

BCRules

Man, its the internet. Everybody shoots .4MOA on the net. Didn't you know that?

I tell ya what. We live close. I will put down 100 dollars that says you can't pull off 0.4MOA with 3 groups your your 25-06 model 70. All 5 shot groups at 200 yards. Any group over 0.4MOA, and you lose.

100 dollars in your pocket. Easy money.

I should specify however. Gun has to be normal hunting barrel contours, (under 10lbs), and sandbag rests, no remote firing or rigid shooting rests.

hoyt3

really? You want to see the target? It's a stock m70 handloaded with 40 grains of AA4064 with a 120 gr speer, cci lg primer, redfield 4-12x40 with boss. pm me your e mail and I'll send you pictures. It's dangerous what you can do with good knowledgeable handloads sparky.

now, go with the rest of MD and learn to drive.

hoyt3

picture for those that do not believe

hoyt3

picture, this was at 100 yds off caldwell bags

streetglideok

I can match that with my model 70 stainless classic, circa 2001-2002 vintage, 300RUM, 4.5-14x Leupold, 200gr Partition on top of 94gr of Retumbo, 100yards. Now my 7mm mag thats identical except with the BOSS, I'm still working a load for it, but without playing with the BOSS, I'm confident it will get 1/2" groups. Both guns were recently put in winchester wood stocks, no bedding performed. The 300RUM has only had the trigger tweaked from its 8lb trigger to a more sedate 3.5lbs.

BCRules

Thats what I thought. Man, we are less than 2hours apart. Surely, you can meet. Its easy money for a guy like you.

hoyt3

underpowered loads or not, it's a load the gun likes and I was called out on group size, not load charge. And if you want to get picky? It's a .489x.600 inch 6 shot group. Ridgerunner, I could give a crap if you are 25 miles from my driveway. Where did you shoot 724 'lazered' yds at? There are only a handful of ranges like that around. That group could be at 50 yds, there is no telling.

and as for the rounds on paper in my pic? they are DIFFERENT loads. It's called load DEVELOPMENT