Originally Posted by bigcountryextreme (Post 3774102)

I was just reading Dan Lilja's page, and they recommend 12 and 13 for 60gr bullets.

That would suck. The gun would definately be a varmit only. I doubt 107 long range bullets would do well.

Originally Posted by bigcountryextreme (Post 3774102)

I was just reading Dan Lilja's page, and they recommend 12 and 13 for 60gr bullets.

That would suck. The gun would definately be a varmit only. I doubt 107 long range bullets would do well.

Originally Posted by Pawildman (Post 3774143)

.... You'd pretty much be stuck with a "varmints only" gun with those twist rates.. Don't think 100+ gr. will shoot worth a hoot in it. My Lilja bbl. 243AI has a 9" twist. Ordered it that way for a little heavier slug. So far it shoots the 85 gr. Sierra HPBT lights out. Been running some 95 gr. VLD's with mixed feelings. May move up some this spring when I can get more bench time...

Originally Posted by Sheridan (Post 3774214)

Wait a minute; What's wrong with a dedicated predator gun ?

My .243 is a Remington 700 SPS DM with a 24" barrel and a 9 1/8 twist.

It shoots the bullseye out of targets at 100 yards using with 75 gr. V-max bullets.

When I take them with that set up them go right down !!!


BTW - I also have a Savage .204 with a Harris bi-pod on it, but the .243 is my walking stick.

Originally Posted by jeepkid (Post 3774238)

Hmmm...how bout a .22-.243 Middlestead with 55's and 75's...

Originally Posted by Ridge Runner (Post 3774261)

Mark,
when the 243 was introduced the standard twist was 1/10, remember the 244 rem? it was a 12 twist, wouldn't stabilize bullets over 90 gr.
I'm a firm believer that overstabilization doesn't happen to the point you could tell it without a micrometer, my 223 8 twist will outshoot my 9,10, and 12 twist 223's with 55 gr bullets, and its a long throated wylde chamber, but still shoots into the .2's pretty often with cheap reman ammo.
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Originally Posted by Ridge Runner (Post 3774256)

22/6mm AI? one of them is in my future, a 1000 yard 22, MAN!
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Originally Posted by bigcountryextreme (Post 3774299)

My gunsmith loves these things. Barrel life he said is 1000 rounds, but I am betting below that.

Pretty awesome gun.

Originally Posted by Pawildman (Post 3774313)

.... What are you planning on building it on? You've got me interested... I need to hear more...

Originally Posted by jeepkid (Post 3774319)

Probably a 700 long action...

Originally Posted by Pawildman (Post 3774366)

..... Oh, man... I'm gonna have to go out behind the garage and look around...

Originally Posted by Ridge Runner (Post 3774329)

I also don't listen to all the hard on barrels stuff, man some have heard it said that a 264 wm is extremely hard on barrels, 500 rounds is tops, I call BS!!
My 7mm AM has a capacity of 122 gr of H2o, I now have 400 rounds downrange, during load developement in 2006 I settled on a 160 accubond driven at 3575 fps by a 110 gr charge of WC872, the bullet was jammed .006 into the rifleing, once in a while while unloading a live round the bullet stuck in the rifleing and was pulled from the cartridge, I've never changed the setting on my seater die and to this day I still on occasion "pull" a bullet unloading a live round, so how bad is my throat eroding?

Lets face it, you can torch a throat in a day if ya want, take care of it and even if its life is only 1000 rounds, thats a lifetime of hunting, agreed? If ya wanna shoot 1k alot just to shoot get a fast twist 223, if ya want accuracy and energy down yonder have a good-un built!
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