Remington 700 question
 

So whats the difference with the SPS, VLS, VLT, VTR, XCR, BDL, so on and so forth?

Also where I live the only "gun" store is Big 5, and so Im looking to purchase my rifle on line...any suggestions as to a reputable on line store? Budsgunshop seems to have what im leaning towards (Remington 700 270) at a decent price of 450 no shipping..

The Remington 270 is an excellent choice. My opioion , for what it's worth, I would use the Remington stainless rifles with synthetic stock. Go to remington.com and you can find out all the suffixes and what they mean. GOOD HUNTING Jim

buds guns is an excellent choice, check out 'cdnn' also give cabela's a look- remingtons web site will decipher all their codes on the rifles

A 700 is a 700. Don't worry much until the number starts changing.

the SPS is the gun that replaced the ADL. This is basically your no frills no BS stock sedan model 700. Blind box magazine... sythetic and matte black standard. everybit a 700 and a good gun.

The BDL is what you think of when you thnk of a wood and blued 700. these guns have hinged floorplate magazines... so you can dump the cartridges to unload. There were some that were BDL DM. The DM denotes a Detachable Magazine... which is flush fit and from the outside there is aestheitcally very little difference.

The newer XCRs are extreme conditions rifles.... they have some weather coating or something like that... nicer stocks.... a bit more weatherproof.

The VLS is Varmint Laminate Stainless.

VSSF is varmint synthetic stainless fluted.

The list goes on and on.... check out the remington website

They are all the same action though...

Hey thanks for taking the time SwamCollie, that clears things up a bit. So they are either cosmetic or small details here or there, but all the same action.

They also have a sps with a hinged floorplate. That's the way I'd go get ya a Sps in 270 and put a good scope on it. I have a wood stock BDL in 270 and that guns a deer killer.

I have a Remington 700 SPS w/ a detachable magazine (wish it was stainless) in .243 Win. and it tears up the bullseye at 100 yards.


http://www.remington.com/products/fi...00-sps-dm.aspx



I use it as my dedicated predator gun with HSM bulk ammo Hornady's 75gr. V-max bullets.

I have the 700 SPS in .308. Very Very accurate. I also have a .270 in a Savage 110. Another very very accurate rifle. Both shoot flat, and have plenty of wallop to kill any deer sized game. Cant go wrong with a .270. With the .270 I use 130 gr bullets. The 140 and 150 it doesnt like much.

Thats correct. The strength and design of the action is the same throughout the 700 line.

Now what you do need to be aware of is not all of the upgrades are just aesthetic... there is a huge difference between a standard sythetic stock and some of their models that come with fiberglass or aluminum bedded stocks. Additionally, they make a few guns every year with 5R barrels which are from what I understand left over from some of their military precision contracts... I think the 5 R denotes 5 rifling lands.... anyway... these guns usually shoot lights out.

I'm not sure if all of their guns are getting their XMark or x7 or whatever they are calling their upgraded trigger system now or not... not sure if it is worth having anyway as I've never used one of the new triggers.

Until I read this post I hadn't really thought about it. Seems I have Model 700s that pretty much run the entire spectrum.

Sendero SF (stainless fluted magnum action)
VSSF II (similar to the Sendero but varmint chamberings and more polished action...black flutes on the barrel)
Mtn. Rifle LSS (laminated SA very thin stainless barrel)
SPS (cheaper version without the finished bolt or metal....crappy plastic stock)
ADL (Walmart gun but a shooter...pre dates the SPS by a few years)
BDL (classic and flagship of the Remington bolt line for years)

Question for you Sendero owners. Remington claims they are their most accurate rifle outta da box. Are they sub 1 inch guns out of the box with good glass?

Right on guys....I think Im ready to take the plunge and buy my first rifle. I keep going back and forth between the rem 700 and the Savage 111 and been torn between the two, but I just have to tell myself that this is only my first rifle. Not my last. And from what I gather I cant go wrong with either of 'em.

Speaking for my rifle only I can only offer you this. My Sendero is a first generation 1997 pre-j lock in .300 Win mag. I shoot almost exclusively Sierra 180 gr. BTSPs ahead of a stiff load of 4350 and lit with Fed 215GMM. This combination in this rifle is so easy to shoot well it is boring. It is the most accurate factory barreled rifle I own or have ever owned. This would include several varmint chamberings in some pretty decent guns.

It has a cushy recoil pad on it and it weighs over 12 lbs. full up. Makes it a *****cat to shoot. Mine wears a Burris Signature 3x9 40mm. It most certainly has far more range than we take advantage of but for the 500 yd. shot it is a first choice...I don't shoot alot of paper but it is most definitely a sub MOA rifle.

Said rifle with my 12 year old son and his first elk. 240 yd. shot DRT

My BDL 300 saum was syn and SS with a hinged floor plate.

I have one of the first Senderos built, made when they came out of Remingtons custom shop. It is a 300 RUM, and is without a doubt THE MOST accurate factory built rifle I have ever shot. At 100 yards you will think you only hit the target once, the rest go in the same hole. I have shot some 1000 yard ranges with this rifle, it is very competitive with some of the high dollar customs I have been arround. As far as the late model Senderos, I dont know, they are production guns that are not built by the custom shop, but I would imagine that Remington has made sure that they live up to the standards set by the original Senderos.

Maybe I should have worded it different, it was one the first 300 Ultra Mags built in that gun. It was Built by Remingtons Custom shop, not a production line gun.

I've never shot a Sendero, but my PSS is a true 1/2" gun all day long...its glass bedded, but shot the same before bedding...

Buying on line?
 

Buying on line has its own issues. First and foremost you must have an FFL dealer who is willing to receive your order and process the paperwork. If I read your post correctly all you have is a chain store. Be careful.
GOOD LUCK and GOOD SHOOTING!!!!

Yes mostly chain stores, but I just found out about the www.bayareagunvault.com close to my work and on their website they say its 35 dollars for private party transfers so Im gonna go down there today and see first off if they have the rifle I want at a decent price, and if not then I will most likely buy from buds and have it shipped to them.

You may want to ask if they can order the gun you want. If they can get it, you may save some money in shipping and transfers. Usually a transfer fee is waived when you buy a gun from the shop that would be doing the transfer if you bought it from someone else.

I've got a BDL in 06 that I bought less than a year ago and in every way it compares favorably to other ADL's and BDL's I've owned in the past--very very accurate--this will be the deer rifle when we move down south---

I've bought three rifles from Bud's and they are top notch--only downside is that if they don't have it in stock, they have no idea when it might be availiable again. So if they have what you want, get it. Their prices are at least a $100 to $150 lower than any other outlet I've found, they ship them out quickly and your order is easy to track---The #1 I bought from my local gun store at retail was $945 plus 6% sales tax plus the $20 for the paperwork--same gun from Bud's was $850, no tax and free shipping--------John