Which Gun accuracy 400 to 500 yds.
 

Ruger M77 Mark II Target or Savage BVSS 22-250

I've a plain Savage 111 that does the trick much further than that, but a 77 is a solid design that I wouldn't have a problem using

Ricky,

I think either one can produce 1" MOA out to 400 to 500 yards.

Can you is the only question ??

BTW - I'm not saying you can't.......................

Sheridan , Killed 8 pointer last week at 410 yds. with a Ruger .220 swift 40 grain bullet , then Sunday killed a doe at 510 yds. with a Remington 257 Weatherby , so to answer your question I think I can.

Ricky,

So pick which one you like the best !

I don't think the accuracy of either rifle is a concern...............

Seems like your Ruger and your Remington (and YOU) can do it..............huh.

BTW - Congratulations on filling your tags.

Sheridan , I still have 10 more tags to fill .

What 40 grn bullet are you using and what state are you doing this in? I own both rifles in question. I have a Savage 112 BVSS-S in .220 Swift, and a Ruger M77 MK2 Target in 22-250. I also own a Ruger M77 MK2 Target in .220 Swift as well. It is out west with one of my counterparts while he out there on work related business.

I will have too get back with you on bullet type, which gun shoots best the ruger or savage in the .220 swift . Do you know where one might find a Ruger. THanks

I know nothing of the Savage in question, but a friend of mine has the Ruger 77 Target in .22-250, and he can consistently ring the steel plates I have set up 400 yards from my front door. He has a Burris Signature scope with mil-dots. He has another in .204 that does as well....provided the wind's not blowing. My plates range down from 13" to 3", and I've seen him ring them all in succession, one right after another. I was most impressed with the rifle.

born2climb, The bullet that we use in the Ruger M77 Mark II .220 swift is a Hornady V-MAX 40 grain Moly.

This thread should get interesting now...

:popcorn:

Well, I guess I'll be the one to say it. So you are using a 40 grain V-Max (a prairie dog bullet) for deer hunting. I assume you are taking head/neck shots?

I guess if my Zero was 300,400-500 would'nt be a Issue...Savage 22-250....

With haveing shot over 50K rounds out of the various 6-7 rifles I have owned in .220 Swift, 22-250, 1 Cooper Arms in .223, not too mention what I shoot at work related situations, unless it was with my Accuracy International AWM in .338 Lapua Magnum, then you can put a 1 in front of those distances, I feel that I have a tad of knowledge of what they can and can not do.
With haveing loaded for all of these rifles and various other peoples weapons and have seen what these rounds are capable of, I don't feel it was a calculated shot, just a "HOLYS&*T, I hit it" shot!!! Especially with a 40grn V-Max which is and was intended to be shot at varmint size targets considering its thin jacket and light weight design.
Now if you were talking about a custom barrell with say, a 1-8" twist or 1-7" twist and was shooting 70-80grn projectiles, I could see that w/o question. My Ruger 77 MKII in 22-250 just turned in some .375" C/C 5-shot groups with some Berger 55grn VLD's that I could not see it happen with even in the hands of the right shooter. I have a Burris Signature Series 6x18x40mm on it and on my .220 Savage I have a Nightforce 4.5x20x50mm. I am not calling anyone anything, I just find it hard to see. How far did this deer travel after being hit and where was it hit?

Especially with 10 more tags to fill....................??? :busted:

........ Pass the popcorn, please?......

Was sighting in the deer rifles at 100yrds and had just put a Burris 6.4-20-50 scope on the 22-250 and decide to zero in at 200yrds after 5 50 yrd shots(100 yrd paper target is all i had)but after 6 shots and sun going down my last shot was only 1/4 inch left after only 5 adjustments,2 were touching at 1" high and 2 clicks down got me in.......This was done useing my Leadsled....I did go out the nxt day and its grouping the same 1/4" left at 200 yrds.

The deer that was shot at 410 yds.with the Ruger .220 swift ran about 50 yds.I was zero at 300 yds. and put the crosshairs right across his back knowning bullet would drop approx.8" and hit back of right shoulder bullet did not pass thru but insides was a mess.I use a vortex viper 6.5 x 20 x50mm . This bullet is leaving muzzle at 4100 fps, we do this all the time i do not understand why people have a hard time believing this ,if you know your gun and ballistics this is a no brainer.

I don't want to get involved in this one, but if you truly don't understand why people are doubting...

Most folks would agree that hitting a deer at this range with a varmit rifle is fairly easy to do, but the choice of a varmit bullet is raising some eyebrows. There have been several wild claims (not saying your story is) recently and it probably makes some guys skeptical. A few young boys have entertained us lately with tales of heroic long distance shots and all around firearms expertise.

My take on your story is that I believe it, but think the use of a varmit bullet on big game is questionable at best.

........ Well, now. There it is. In print. It took RR to put it out there.... What most of us were quietly thinking all along....

Are you shooting factory or handloads? Do you realize what your energy at impact would be at that distance? I have taken several 'yotes and prairie dogs at and beyond that distance with very calculated results useing the .220 Swift and the 22-250. I VERY well understand the ballistics aspects of long distance shooting, for this is what I do as a living. As I said with the AI AWM in .338 Lapua out to 1500 yds+. I am just saying that, as is everyone else, that specific projectile is NOT intended for animals of that size and frame stature.

This will be my last post on this subject, I have taken several deer with this gun and bullet this being my longest shot and have seen the results and will continue to use, I have used larger caliber and not seen the results of internal damage.With that said I bid you farewell on this subject.

Well said. I feel that we have seen what inexperience and pure godly lucky has done for those NOT in the know. I also feel that with over 35 yrs of High Power rifle work and 19 yrs LEO Sniper work has shown me that when I smell something and see something that looks like I was glad I did not step in it, my BS sensor starts going off!!! I just hope for the animals he encounters in his errorful ways that their death is swift and painless, for I feel many have not, did not and will not be so fortunate in this episode. Done and out.

Stock? I'm going to say maybe. There's no question that with some work and trying various bullets you'll find the right combination. Personally I'd use the ruger just because I own a 270 and a 300 win mag in the Mark II. Definately my favorite action, even when I consider both my savages and my remington 700.

The only attraction to the savage for me in these type of performance situations would be the accu trigger system. If the savage has that then I would definately put the time on the savage.

Run troll, RUN!!