I have a remington model 70 with the pacmeir grip stock. my brother has a browning A bolt and my rifle will shoot rings around his. we set them up shooting 2" high at 100yds. Backed out to 375yrds and my remington shot 2" below bullseye. the browning shot 4" below. thats shooting a 130gr. ballistic tip. best part about it was mine cost 419.00 the browning was 800.00. you dont have to spend alot of money to buy a good rifle. the 270 wsm is one flat shooting rifle.