If they are as old as they say, which is in my neighborhood, they definitely cannot read birth certificates at 20 paces.:biggrin:

I sure hope one of them is Obama!!!!!

http://www.stumbleupon.com/su/19pL9R...es/DrSuess.htm

The Cat in the Hat On Aging


I Cannot See
I Cannot Pee
I Cannot Chew
I Cannot Screw
Oh, My God, What Can I Do?
My Memory Shrinks
My Hearing Stinks
No Sense of Smell
I Look Like Hell
My Mood is Bad -- Can't You Tell?
My Body is Drooping
Have Trouble Pooping
The Golden Years Have Come at Last
The Golden Years can Kiss My Ass!

i gotta disagree with mr deer hunter,280 is much better suited for elk hunting than the 270.jmho

I agree with this and that's why I built mine.....

I haven't seen anyone getting TOO out of line in this thread...

Nobody has shed the kid's gloves yet.... Yeah.. I know THAT expression dates me....:happy0157:.....

One reason I frequent forums like this is for the entertainment value...Nothing wrong with a little give and take...

IMO this thread has stayed pretty civil, with a little good natured badgering involved...

Could always go with a 280 Remington with a belt.. the 7mm Remington Magnum. Same bullets, more oomph. Nothing wrong with the 280. Would make an excellent mountain rifle IMO, as far as being lightweight and having plenty of power. Besides, its bigger then a 270,lol.

Actually, Jack O'Connor agreed that the .280 was a better all round cartridge than the .270...In his later years, Jim Carmichel went to him and was discussing a custom rifle he was having built...Jim had already decided on a .280, but so he wouldn't hurt Jack's feelings, he told him he was getting a .270...Seems Jack jumped up and said "Don't do it, go with a .280, it's a better round"...

Jack liked the .270 simply because it shot a little flatter than the '06 and it kicked a little less...He felt that the average rifleman at the time could handle the reduced recoil a bit better...

Thanks to all of you for your insights and input.

I have considered some of the current production rifles that were mentioned. However, none of them are quite what I want. I don't care for stainless steel rifles (or pistols). I really don't like skinny-barreled mountain rifles either. I just want a regular weight sporter with a decent walnut stock. I know....some of the well known makers made them a few years back. I guess I should have bought one then. I appreciated the thoughts on the 270 caliber. I have a couple of 270's...a Winchester and a Marlin model 7. It's a fine caliber. Just want a new toy to play with! As far as the 7mm Magnum...I avoid magnum cartridges. I owned a couple of Weatherby Mark V's in magnum calibers. Those were some of the poorest shooting rifles I ever owned. I have decided to bide my time...maybe I can find what I want at one of the larger regional gun shows next spring. If I can't, I have a 700 BDL in 30-06 that has a lot or rounds through it. It just might become my 280. Thanks guys!

A rebarrel to .280 is a very good idea and will serve you well.

Best of luck with it.

May I recommend Shilen.....?