Seen these yet?
 

Did a quick look and can't seem to find any out there available yet. Anyone seen one in a shop/available yet? I WANT one!

Browning BAR Zenith Prestige

Nope, sure have not. I kind of like the wood inlay on the receiver, but I've never like the shiny Browning finish. Good luck finding one.

Wow, looks like one of those guns for the gun cabinet................LOL !


http://www.ableammo.com/catalog/prod...ucts_id=117834


Don't take me wrong, I like Brownings - but I wouldn't want to "scratch" it !!!

I've never seen one of those, but I'd love to have on. It looks beautiful.

With aMSRP of $1300, I'd hope selling price would be lower than what the Able Ammo link showed. I'd have mine at cost so closer to $900-$1000 anyways.
Never been big on Browning's glossy finishes either but this one appears more of a matte finish which I like. Not something I;d brush bang with but not one I'd I'd tuck away as a safe queen either being scared to have it see the outdoors.

I don't really like the matte finish and I really like the glossy Browning finish. I guess I'm the oddball here. So I hope this one comes in gloss.

No sale here. Looks like a cross between a rifle and a high grade skeet/trap gun. Those guns belong at the range.

If I own a rifle, it goes to the woods 100 times more than it goes to the range.

yuck! why do they still put sights on CFs? get the synth shor trac instead and go kill somth'n:)

1) Some, like myself, like sights unlike some that don't and probably can't function with them. :rolleye0011:
2) Don't like synthetic (classless) or the look of the other BAR's. In general, I don't like semi-autos anyways.:s8: Make one shot count not get the lead downrange.
3) It's not about going to "kill somth'n". :nonono2:
4) Not really wanting one for field use but rather just to have another nice looking rifle.

youre not going to put a scope on it? sights are for shot guns, rifles are for shooting farther than 50yds and sights just dont cut it. The short track is a sweet little gun, id love to have one in 308, for stalking swamps and ridges, personally I think the ugliest thing is a pretty blued/wood gun w/ blood, mud and dings on it, If I wanted to collect pretty stuff Id buy more guitars. guns are tools, not toys, tools should be up to some rough outdoor use. actually thats what its ALL about! :devil: You must be a KISS fan:D

Might scope it, might not. Regardless, I'd have sights as a back--up if need be. I've found many that are so against sights are those that don't know how to use them. ;) They are QUITE capable past 50yrds by the way if you know how to use them. ;)

Hmmm, did I say this WAS to be a hunting rife? It would more or less be a shooter at the range. have plenty for hunting use already so now it's all buying what's simply appealing rather than a necessity.

To some, maybe but to others, well, the "some" probably wouldn't understand. ;)


Darn right! Rocked with thousands of them last night too. :rock: Doing it again next weekend. :rock:

so why would you by a hunting rifle if you aint gonna hunt with it? why dont you get one of those long octagonal barrels 45/70 sharps replicas that actually has sights that are designed for long range. make more sense as a cool safe queen /range gun. youd get every thing you want, one shot, pretty wood, and those lame sights you like so much:s4:




Paul still sounds great! They didnt let thayer do "shock me" did they? Hericy:mad:

i dont know how to tell ya this pal but not everyone likes scoped guns..i like a little rifle with peep sights for thick stuff and on drives...sometimes you dont have time to serch a scope for crosshairs...and open sight isnt for shotguns...only.ive had a couple sweet little rifles with open sites...and yes i killed deer with em. although ive never seen a shalacked tree in the woods...and to me if i cant hunt with it ,,i dont want it.

yeah I realize a few people like sights, some people still like black powder cartridges too, doesnt make them practical. Scopes set on low power, 1-3X ,are not any harder, than open sights to get on target with. get one of your rifles with a scope set on 3X, and another with sights, stand about 10 feet from a small object and try to get a bead on em. IME the scope is actually quicker because you dont have to line up the front and back sights.

I say no gun is meant for the cabinet, a good looking gun only looks better with a scratch or two.

I went to the browning website to get a closer look at that pup. I have to say I would never own one. Just not my cup of tea. Looks like a shotgun.

I should have looked to see how much they weigh. They look heavy. I don't have any interest so I'm not going back to check.

I also think the sights are way over the top. Is a standard rear sight just too small or what?

Tom

I don't care for the looks of it, but it's just my personal taste.. It's a little too "modernistic" for an old fart like me, I guess...My idea of an attractive semi auto rifle would be a Garand M1 or an L1A1...

Nothing wrong with using a PRETTY gun for hunting, though...

I like walnut and blued metal..Life is too short to hunt with an ugly gun...

Many hunters, like DBHog, could care less what thier firearm looks like as long as it gets the job done, and that's fine with me..Thank goodness we all have different opinions...

In MY opinion, many firearms are things of BEAUTY, and so why not have your cake and eat it too... Pretty guns kill stuff just as efficiently as ugly guns do..If they happen to get a few honorable scars ( which they all eventually do) that just adds character..

After all, beauty is in the eye of the beholder - right ?

Stainless & synthetic for me................ah, a thing of beauty and industructable too !

So now you're gonna dictate how I use my guns? Not allowed to buy a firearm unless I use it for what you think it's built for? What makes a hunting rifle and hunting rifle and not a range gun? One of those Sharps, not a replica either, is on the "list" but where as those too were once hunting rifles, (back when the hunter wasn't out of shape, lazy and scared of a 8lb gun) I guess I gotta hunt with it and not just shoot it for fun. :sad0064: But wait, while I do want that, I'd also like one of these Brownings, even if it does have "lame sights". But hey, I at least have the ability to function with sights and not rely on optics to hit my target. ;)



Yup. Not a big deal to me. Eric sings Beth and Black Diamond too. No different than Ace singing the Kiss songs he does in concert that he didn't write or sing. He sang some from the Wicked Lester writing era before he was even thought of last show. Guess Brian Johnson shouldn't sing anything Bon sang right? :hit:

Let's all live in the kingdom of DeerandbearHog. :woot:

I agree wholeheartedly with you, Sheridan....

AND having spent several hunting trips in the wilderness in Alaska and Canada, when my rifle was SOAKED every day, I will be the first one to admit the UTILITY of stainless, synthetic rifles..

My wood stocked, blued rifles functioned flawlessly and survived with no ill effects, but a SYN/STN rifle is certainly less worrisome under such conditions..

Just think about it.. If we all preferred blonde, big busted females, there would be LOTS of competition for them, and all of those sleek, slim, dark haired beauties would ignored...

What a shame THAT would be...:wink:.....

Glad your qualified to speak for so many. So if one is no harder than the other, why not use the sights? If I'm only shooting 10 yds, I'll use a handgun not a rifle. I guess some need the crosshairs past 10 feet.
Those "few" that do prefer and are capable of utilizing sights, should have it as a package so that when the gun is brought to the firing posisition, it's all aligned just as with a scope. No searching for crosshairs or aligning sights after bringing it to posisition, it's all there.
Have some rifles with scopes and many without yet I can still shoot them out to 100yds. Depending on the guns purpose, I'll decide which sighting device I'll have on the gun. Not going to limit myself and have all scopes nor would I have all with just sights. Same goes for guns I'll buy just for range use or even those I'll tuck away untouched.

I don't want to get in the middle of a pissing contest between you two guys, but I'd just like to post a couple of my observations from many years of hunting with scopes, open sights and reciever (peep) sights..

Open sights are VERY fast for target aquisition on fast moving targets at close range, as long as the shooter PRACTICES with them...Basically you learn to mount the gun, lock your cheek into the proper place on the stock and just look at the target and pull the trigger..Years back I killed lots of running rabbits with an open sighted Ruger 10/22 and also could regularly hit thrown aerial targets with it.. Of course I never hunted deer with it, but if I did they would be riddled with little .22 caliber holes.. Peep sights work well also.. Just ignore the aperture and look at the bead..Your eye centers ir automtically..

That said, a low power scope is also very fast, again with practice...However, fast moving targets at very close range are a real challenge with a scope, especially in dense cover... When a whitetail streaks by me at 15 or 20 yards in the puckerbrush with the smoke just rolling off his butt, I'd rather have open sights than a scope..

Sounds like someone else knows how to use sights too. :) Key word...practice. BUT...that's another thing most don't do enough of.

Exactly, open sights are very very easy to quickly aquire a fast moving target at a close range with. I can do it a lot faster than with a scope.

As to the hunting rifles and having a nice looking one. I used to feel the same way. I used to only really like Walnut stocked rifles with a nice blue finish. I bought a Browning BAR to hunt with that was beautiful. It stayed that way for about 3-4 weeks after I got it. Then I got a gouge put in the side of the stock about 2" tall and goes like a z kind of so it's about 2" wide too. Then I've gotten other knicks and dings all over it. Don't get me wrong, it's a great looking gun still, but it's well used looking. I hate to see such a nice looking gun have and scratches or dings, but I guess I'm okay with it since I did buy it to use to hunt with. Synthetic stocks on the other hand don't scratch or show scratches near as easily. While they don't look great anytime, after years of abuse they don't show it near as badly as wood does. I think for a hunting rifle in the future I'd actually prefer synthetic.