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LifexIsxHunting 05-20-2010 12:21 PM

Barrel Break-in, Yes or BS
 
Whats your thoughts on barrel break-in procedure.

Sheridan 05-20-2010 12:27 PM

Some say yes, and some say no...................it's your time and money !?!?


http://www.gunnersden.com/index.htm....-cleaning.html


http://www.rifle-accuracy-reports.co...-break-in.html


Your choice...........................I do !!!

bigcountry 05-20-2010 01:41 PM

Yea, it works but only on some barrels. If you have a crap remington barrel thats rougher than a cobb, nothing is going to break that barrel in. If you have a new good barrel that just has some minor machine marks, you can see a difference. Same thing as using a hawkeye bore scope and finding the rough spots and lapping them out.

But this recipie of shoot once and clean, and on and on is stupid. If you shoot and clean, and do this over a few times and get no fouling, then move to 3 shots and clean, and do that a few times until no fouling, then things are getting smoothed out. You need to let the gun tell you what is happening. I would be most guns however are just rough.

dylan_b 05-20-2010 04:54 PM

i second the above post. some barrels can be broken in, some cant. in my experiance modern guns are pretty easy to break in and usualy show good results after some time

halcon 05-20-2010 11:31 PM

I've bought and sold a lot of guns over the years ,but don't remember having a bad barrel . And I have never broke a barrel in by shoot and clean .shoot and clean ,to each his own I guess

Hairtrigger 05-21-2010 01:46 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRRahHX9Zkg

Detailed explaination here

statjunk 05-21-2010 03:57 AM

I say that there is some brake in but not the ridiculous shoot one clean, shoot one clean for 10. And then for 3 etc... I start out at 5 and gradually increase to see where the accuracy starts falling off. It's usually around 10-15 rounds for most of my guns.

When I'm checking loads. I usually stick to every 5. This is for accuracy though and not for break in.

Tom

Sheridan 05-21-2010 10:30 AM

I once heard it said this way.


It minimizes the point of impact between a clean cold barrel and a dirty hot barrel.


That is of course if your gun has a different point of impact, or maybe that’s just BS too !


Still your choice !?!?


FYI - that video is of our good buddy Larry; he can tell you how to do everything right, he has "schooled" pretty much everyone at one time or another !

BTW - Funny, but it's still YOUR choice..........................

IndyHunter83 05-21-2010 11:37 AM

I'll start by saying that I'm no target shooter and MOA, although I know and understand it from an engineering point of view, really doesn't come too much into play for me. Personally, I feel the barrel breakin process work on two principles.

1. Understandably if you have a rough factory barrel the repeating of the process as others have described is going to help reduce any errors in the consistancy of your accuracy.

2. If your shooting and cleaning a whole bunch over the course of a few hours on the bench or even over a few days then you're constantly learning your rifle. A person seeking the type of accuracy a lot of the people in here are seeking needs that time. Remember that both your rifle and you are partners.

As far as how many shots it takes and all that to break in a rifle. Well its really just a study of friction. I think it definately takes more than a hundred shots or two hundred shots to break in a rifle. Eventually, unless you can figure out someway to eliminate the friction factor (which is impossible based on the concept of rifling) the precision of your accuracy is going to be ever changing. Personally, I have many rifles and my two best shooters are a 22 that my grandfather bought the day before pearl harbor was bombed and a 308 savage I bought with a heavy barrel. The 308 is pretty easy to understand why its accurate but the 22 is a prime example of how pure quality materials will withstand corrosive tendancies more easily than the flawed materials often used today. In other words they just don't make'm like they used to.

dylan_b 05-22-2010 12:42 PM


Originally Posted by Sheridan (Post 3629102)
It minimizes the point of impact between a clean cold barrel and a dirty hot barrel.

well its not completely bs because my old weatherby vangaurd had this problem when i first had it but it went away after about 100 rounds. i cant completely finger the barrel breakin as the cure the to poi walking around since i also started playing around with the pounds pressure of the action screws about that same time. but imo in a few rifles there might be some truth behind barrel breakin and the poi walking with heat.

jeepkid 05-22-2010 05:32 PM


Originally Posted by Ridge Runner (Post 3629400)
I've never pushed a patch through the broken in barrel that came out blue!
RR

That's how my Broughton is...hand-lapped and broken in per Kampfelds instructions...less then a dozen patches and she's pretty much totally clean...

rjohnson209r 05-23-2010 03:48 PM

know a guy won 30-06 from MGARMS 3000.oo gun did not break in , after about 50 down pipe could not hit barn door 10 feet. took gun back they laughed would warrenty

bigcountry 05-23-2010 06:32 PM


Originally Posted by rjohnson209r (Post 3629634)
know a guy won 30-06 from MGARMS 3000.oo gun did not break in , after about 50 down pipe could not hit barn door 10 feet. took gun back they laughed would warrenty


One thing for sure, I am laughin at this post. If you have ever put a custom barrel on a gun or viewed one with a hawkeye borescope, you would know how funny your post is.

Vapodog 05-25-2010 10:06 AM

The barrel break in has a lot of opinions....so do I!

Opinions don't cut squat!!!!

I've never read any documented and tested valid proof of the value of barrel break in!

It just might be the case but the difference is so minute that the testing required is far too extensive to offer statistical valid proof of the value!

Until I read "proof".....not opinion or conjecture.....it's a myth!

zrexpilot 05-26-2010 08:25 AM


Originally Posted by Ridge Runner (Post 3629400)
break-in helps reduce fouling in a good barrel, if its not lapped its a waste of time.
I have 2 rifles with lilja 9 twist 4 groove barrels, one was broken in, one wasn't, theres 5 patches per cleaning difference between the 2. I've never pushed a patch through the broken in barrel that came out blue!
RR

I thought a 100 rounds down the pipe laps a barrell, thought that was the whole point of break in.
I would think breaking in a barrel that was lapped is a waste of time.

MO Archer 05-26-2010 08:28 AM

Some one submit this to the show 'Mythbusters'. Then we will all know for sure.




EDIT- I posted it on the Mythbusters forum where they get their show ideas from. Maybe they will do a show on it. Go over there and fire the thread up and it might make it on the show.

http://community.discovery.com/eve/f.../m/91919782501

skb2706 05-26-2010 01:30 PM

I have four custom barrels from Shilen. On their website the question comes up on the FAQs. Their response is that they have a break in procedure for their barrels because their customers wanted them to have one.

Me...I'm more of a shoot some, clean some, moderation kinda guy.

skb2706 05-26-2010 01:34 PM

"know a guy won 30-06 from MGARMS 3000.oo gun did not break in , after about 50 down pipe could not hit barn door 10 feet. took gun back they laughed would warrenty ad and funny."

Its a two fer

hard to read and funny.

skb2706 05-27-2010 12:42 PM


Originally Posted by Doesnt Matter (Post 3630914)
You girls should shoot more and read less.

Smack in the middle of my world we do a bit of shootin. A good day of prairie dogs will generally account for several hundred rds. Do that a couple dozen times a years or more. Our girls shoot.



We can read and shoot ......


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