XCR or CDL??????
 

I've found both of these guys in left handed models in .30-06.

That CDL is BEAUTIFULL!!!!.....but the XCR is about as "element proofed" as you can get.

Both with the great 700 action......which to get?????

Love the look of the CDL's wood/blued steel.....love the low maintenace factor of the XCR


HELP!!!!! Which one should I get???

Get both. You only live once.

I assume this is a joke question?

the cdl-sf vs. XCR is a no brainer, CDL-SF all the way baby!

ugly rifle vs. beautiful, ummm what's hard about that decision?

I know you mentioned blued steel, but I think the cdl-sf is rem's best looking rifle, period.

If I won a XCR I'd sell it, or tell hill country to restock it and tune it up for me.

Well, you're right about the CDL SF. That's one gorgeous rifle!
But Remington doesn't make the damn thing in a left handed model.

Gets pretty humid around here in east Texas, and I worry about the blued steel rusting if I get lazy and forget to wipe it down after a rainy hunt or a July/August late night pig spotlighting session when we're getting 99% humidity.

CDL.

Blued steel isn't hard to keep free from rust.

How much you looking to spend?

Really the only XCR I could ever imagine owning would be the one Hill Country does...I think they're around $1900 and real shooters, nicer stock than that XCR from remington.

Checkout the ER Shaw website...they're building semi-custom rifles nowadays, basically it's a Savage from what I can tell but I read they thread on the barrel vs. bolting/nut it on? plus you get an er shaw barrel in any configuration you want, stainless or blued, straight or helical flutes or none, length & contour etc....of youre liking. Synthetic stock, laminate, or wood...take a look at them, maybe they offer a left hand model since I assume savage does.

I agree with bigbulls.

If you want a pretty 700 w/ nice wood and bluing, I would go for the BDL, the newer CDLs dont impress me too much, the walnut stock has a low luster "thin" finish, and the bluing has a satin finish similar to the black SPS model. The BDL has a high luster finish on the stock and deep,rich, gloss bluing, much more classic looking rifle IMO, and If Im not mistaken the BDL has a 2" shorter barrel than the CDL. With wood stocks I think a heavy polyurythane finish is better to protect it from moisture. I dont think the XCR, or even the SPS stainless are ugly, the gray matte stainless is pretty nice, and the injection molded stocks are light, yet pretty firm w/ minimal flex. Have you considered the MTLSS? Thats what I have, Its much lighter than the other 700s. I think its a nice blend of good looks and weather resistance, although some dont like the thin barrel.

I like this one;


http://hillcountryrifles.com/catalog...ster-270-win_5


Price / value

So, Hill Country expects you to pay $1800 for what ammounts to new crown and McMillan stock??????

IMO the CDL finish is much better than the SPS. The finish on the SPS reminds me of a spray in truck bed liner.

What sometimes is called, the tip of the iceberg;


"HCR's bedding department is truly unique," Matt said. "Hector Herrera and his sister, Irene, have each bedded over 10,000 bolt-action rifles over the last 20 years. As a team, they will pillar bed over 800 rifles this year alone. Those two know just about everything there is to know about bedding an action into a stock. And because we accurize so many different factory rifles as opposed to specializing in, say, Remington, our bedding expertise is unmatched in the custom firearms industry.


BB - and you know better...............comments like that make you seem foolish !

You're right, I do know better. I know that what they are doing to a rifle isn't worth any where near their asking price. If all they do is what they post on their web site the foolish one is the one willing to pay $1800 for it.

Fixed...couldn't resist.

BB,

Just as a reminder; This was YOUR STATEMENT.


“So, Hill Country expects you to pay $1800 for what ammounts to new crown and McMillan stock??????”


That is what makes you seem foolish (it’s your statement), because you know there is far more to it than what YOU STATED. (?????)

I know what I said and according to their accurizing page there isn't much more to it than that.

I'm just going on what they say that they do to "accurize" a rifle.

So basically they are supplying an XCR barreled action, tuning an adjustable trigger, Supplying and bedding a McMillan stock(over rated and over priced IMO), lapping the scope rings, and recrowning the barrel for $1,850?? Along with checking out a few other items, and I am assuming if additional work needs done then there will be additional charges??

BB I am with you. I may also be showing my ignorance. But that sounds like a lot of money to me??

XCR barreled action------$700
McMillan stock-----------$600
Bed the action-----------$200
Adjust a trigger----------$75
Recrown-----------------$100
lap scope rings-----------$75

total--------------------$1750

So $1,850 is an extra $100 over the highly inflated prices that I have listed. All the prices I listed are ful retail+. Sounds high to me?? But that is just my opinion.


Actual wholesale prices:
XCR barreled acton------$550
McMillan Stock----------$350
Bed the action(parts)----$10??
Adjust the trigger(parts)-$0
recrown(parts)----------$2----------for cutting fluid
lap scope rings----------$1----------for lapping compound

Total:------------------$903

So this only leaves labor and profit-so lets combine those.

$947.

Not bad for 3 or 4 hours of actual work. Somewhere between $275 an hour to $320 an hour?? Not bad work if you can get it. Tom.

i'd get the cdl (i like wood/blue). and remember, the xcr does rust. it just takes a little longer than blued steel. if you take reasonable care of a cdl, i'm confident it will last you and your son a lifetime.

I'm just going on what YOU SAID they do to accurize a rifle.


"what ammounts to new crown and McMillan stock"


At first it sounded so simple, and anyone who brought in on it was taken ?


And you know what, it is just that simple.


It's a custom rifle that is already broke in, shoots sub 1" MOA, and is ready to go.


Either you think it's worth it or you don't.


No one needs to be thought less of for their opinion (plus it is their money anyway).


Maybe, now you know were I'm coming from........................... :-)