Siting in new 30-06, MPBR? Who uses it?
#1
Spike
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Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 57
Siting in new 30-06, MPBR? Who uses it?
I should preface this by saying I'm new to hunting and hunting caliber rifles. I just bought a new remington 700 long range in 30-06. Went to the range with it last week and there was a bad cross wind. Maybe 30 mph gusts. I shot 150gr core lokts, 165gr core lokts, and 180gr hornady SP's.
It seemed the 165gr core lokt's were the most consistent but my third shot in all groups was a flyer. I could manage the first two shots 1/4 MOA at 100 yards and the 3rd was always 3-4" inches away. I don't know whether this was the wind or because it was cheaper ammo. I'm not 100% confident in my zero because of the wind also.
I'm planning on heading back out there saturday with 165gr nosler AB's (what I'll most likely be hunting with). I'm throwing around the idea of zero'ing for MPBR. Using google and shooterscalculator.com I was able to come up with the following data:
Drag Function: G7 Ballistic Coefficient: 0.475 Initial Velocity: 2800 fps Sight Height : 1.966 in Target Size: 6 in
Corrected For Atmosphere Adjusted BC: 0.65
Altitude: 8500 ft
Barometric Pressure: 29.92 Hg Temperature: 55° F
Relative Humidity: 70% Speed of Sound: 1112 fps
Near Zero:
32 yards
Far Zero:
256 yards
Minimum PBR:
0 yards
Maximum PBR:
301 yards
Sight-in at 100yds:
2.49" high
This will theoretically let me shoot out to 300 yards and successfully hit an Elk without messing with the scope. Does anyone else hunt this way?
I haven't been able to find out a lot about MBPR using the search method. I don't plan on taking a 300 yard shot but I'd love to get confident at 200 yards before the season opens. The area I'm hunting will most likely present with opportunities from very close out to 200-ish or further.
It seemed the 165gr core lokt's were the most consistent but my third shot in all groups was a flyer. I could manage the first two shots 1/4 MOA at 100 yards and the 3rd was always 3-4" inches away. I don't know whether this was the wind or because it was cheaper ammo. I'm not 100% confident in my zero because of the wind also.
I'm planning on heading back out there saturday with 165gr nosler AB's (what I'll most likely be hunting with). I'm throwing around the idea of zero'ing for MPBR. Using google and shooterscalculator.com I was able to come up with the following data:
Drag Function: G7 Ballistic Coefficient: 0.475 Initial Velocity: 2800 fps Sight Height : 1.966 in Target Size: 6 in
Corrected For Atmosphere Adjusted BC: 0.65
Altitude: 8500 ft
Barometric Pressure: 29.92 Hg Temperature: 55° F
Relative Humidity: 70% Speed of Sound: 1112 fps
Near Zero:
32 yards
Far Zero:
256 yards
Minimum PBR:
0 yards
Maximum PBR:
301 yards
Sight-in at 100yds:
2.49" high
This will theoretically let me shoot out to 300 yards and successfully hit an Elk without messing with the scope. Does anyone else hunt this way?
I haven't been able to find out a lot about MBPR using the search method. I don't plan on taking a 300 yard shot but I'd love to get confident at 200 yards before the season opens. The area I'm hunting will most likely present with opportunities from very close out to 200-ish or further.
#3
Doctor, Doctor,
Hi, Don't make it to complicated for yourself. My 06 likes 165 grn bullets to. Sight in 2-2.5" high at 100 yds. this should cover you to 250, 300 yds. But even with all that, I would shoot the rifle at targets at 200, 250, and 300 yds to see what she rally can do, and what group you get at those ranges. Remember , just because you hold a good group at 100 yds, she can go bad with longer distances. Keep it simple.good luck.
#5
Spike
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 57
thanks. I agree about the wind. Can't wait to get back out there. The problem is the closest public range I have with anything even out to 100 yards (unless I want to pay $35/hour indoor for a 100yd range) is 2 hours away and that range only goes to 200 yards. I don't have a range finder or I would set up my own area in the national forest.
#7
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Eastern wv
Posts: 3,645
what I would do, to make sure your on target out to 200 yards, sight in like 1/2" high at 100, at less than 100 yards hold lower third of the vitals, at 100 to 150 hold mid-vitals, at 200 or there abouts hold upper third on the vitals.
the only way to build confidance in yourself and your equipment is to shoot, the more you shoot the better you'll get and the more confidant you will become.
RR
the only way to build confidance in yourself and your equipment is to shoot, the more you shoot the better you'll get and the more confidant you will become.
RR
#8
Spike
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 57
what I would do, to make sure your on target out to 200 yards, sight in like 1/2" high at 100, at less than 100 yards hold lower third of the vitals, at 100 to 150 hold mid-vitals, at 200 or there abouts hold upper third on the vitals.
the only way to build confidance in yourself and your equipment is to shoot, the more you shoot the better you'll get and the more confidant you will become.
RR
the only way to build confidance in yourself and your equipment is to shoot, the more you shoot the better you'll get and the more confidant you will become.
RR
I'd like to use Nosler 165gr. Accubonds to hunt with. I plan on setting up my zero with these. I don't reload. Is it possible to set my rifle up for this ammo but practice with cheaper 165gr core-lokts? I guess I don't know how big of a difference there is between the two rounds?
Also, if you're going to shoot 2 or 3 boxes of ammo do you clean your rifle in between?
#9
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Eastern wv
Posts: 3,645
if your hunting deer, the corelocks will do fine, I would lean towards the accubonds for elk sized game. I'd just deer hunt with the core-locts , then resight in for elk with accubonds.
you shouldn't have to clean your rifle till accuracy starts to fall off , clean after the season, do not clean midseason because the POI is different clean vs. fouled.
goodluck
RR
you shouldn't have to clean your rifle till accuracy starts to fall off , clean after the season, do not clean midseason because the POI is different clean vs. fouled.
goodluck
RR