CQC 500lb bear gun?
I was over a buddys place the other day to check out his trophy room, it was pretty impressive to say the least. He had a mount of a 500lbs black bear that he killed in the same woods I hunt. he said he used a 444 and dropped it w/ one shot. man, I wouldnt want to come face to face, in the laurels w/ that thing, w/out a big gun. I got to thinking what would be the perfect CQC (close quarters combat) gun for big black bear in tight cover. I was thinking a 4570 marlin guide 18 barrel but its 7lbs w/out a scope, a browning blr in 358win would be nice too, its got a 2" longer barrel, but I think its a shorter action and its lighter, than a guide gun. I was also thinking about a AR 15 in 450 or 50 beowulf but the brass is kinda expensive and scarce.
what would you guys consider the best gun for this task? |
There isn't a black bear in the world that can't be dropped with a 30-30, 35 rem or .32 special. I killed one back in the late '80's with a 32 special at 15 ft. It never twitched.
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For close quarters? 12 gauge slug gun.
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like said...12 gauge slug with ghost rings or an eotech would be bad news for mr, bruin if all your doing is bustin thickets and pushing...
me? i went with a 7600 in 35 whelen. cant use a semi here...i dont like hunting with lever guns for a couple reasons...and wanted a heavy hitter and a fast follow up... got a 2.5-8x36 VX-III on her...i primarily bust thickets..but i do a little sitting and could be glad i had the scope....i can also swing and shoot with a scope on low power and send lead where i want it...so i'll never wish i didnt have the scope...other than in the rain and snow when its heck trying to keep it clear.... recoil on the whelen isnt horrible which is nice...and a 225gr accubond cruising at 2600fps is putting out almost 3400ft/lbs of energy...i know all the energy is useless when it blows right through and into the dirt...but, its nice to have a pile of energy and a bullet that'll get through anything infront of it... the barrel on my 7600 is 22"..but could easily be chopped into a carbine...i have half a mind to chop and port mine...just for the ultimate brush buster that packs a major punch but hardly and felt recoil...but even at 22" its not a bad gun..i think weight is still probably 7-8lbs with a scope..maybe a hair more with a scope and loaded...but, i wouldnt wanna shoot the whelen from anything lighter lol...i like the remington pump guns because they handle so fast for me..probably because i do alot of shotgunning and they feel like a shotgun (pretty identical to a 870 20ga) so that was my choice! |
Marlin Guide Gun in 45-70.
Tom |
It would be tough to beat a Marlin 1894 in 44 magnum-shooting the hard cast 300 grain heavies. Very lightweight, fast handling and totally effective on any sized black bear. Tom.
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Originally Posted by HEAD0001
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It would be tough to beat a Marlin 1894 in 44 magnum-shooting the hard cast 300 grain heavies. Very lightweight, fast handling and totally effective on any sized black bear. Tom.
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A hard cast 240 grain bullet would do just fine. That is what I use in mine. I have tried the 300's but found them to be just a little bit too long for my 1894's. But I have a couple of friends who shoot the 300's with no trouble.
I am not sure where you are shopping but excellent condition used ones can be found with some regularity for prices between $400-$550. I have bought and sold three in the last year. I can pick them up here in WV for around $400 most of the time. then I resell them on the net for a $50-$100 profit. Tom. |
Here is a link to a few 45-70's and a couple of 35 Remingtons for a pretty good price. I have bought one 1894 from these guys, and they are great to deal with. They did not have any 1894'2 listed. but they get them pretty often. Tom.
http://www.ktpguns.com/interior.php/pid/28 |
Thanks tom, I just spent all my$ on my 1st AR so "funzalo" on anything else. Ill be getting another levergun someday though.
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