Taurus "Judge"
 

I'm thinking about getting one for a ccw-type application. I like the 3in barrel with the 3in mag (.410) wheel. Anybody have anything to say good or bad about them. I think it's an interesting concept.

thanks

If your looking for a dependable CCW handgun, I would suggest you do some more research before you buy.

My father has one and loves it! Its really fun to shoot. Might be a tad heavy for ccw, but I carry my full size 1911 around. So weight is not an issue. If I were you go pick it up. You wont regret it.

thanks guys

care to elaborate sniper??????

Along with your CCW research you may want to do some research on Taurus quality.

Tom

I lke the idea of a Judge if it was made by someone other then Taurus.
I'm not bashing Taurus allot of people like them. The experience I had with one made me decide there will never be another Taurus at my house. Go to other forums and read about Taurus. I think you'll change your mind.

not a big fan after doing some research...

now they have a new model that will chamber the .454 casull though, not just .45colt/.410

What's your plan for it? to shoot 3" buckshot, ie 4 or 5 buckshot from the 3" shell?

If it's for snakes I'm of the opinion just get a revolver and shoot some snakeloads rather than .410 shells.

Less you really want to shoot buckshot out of it, I'd try to get the 2.5" version.

Saw a test of the buckshot on a milkjug or something, wasn't very impressive at 10 feet or more, something like that...seemed like those 4 or 5 shot could miss their target.

1) gimmick
2) oversized for good concealed carry
3) iffy Taurus quality
4) gimmick
5) with shot loads, you 110% sure of where each shot pellet is gong to go? LOTS of liability should one go where it's NOT intended.

Dont quite undestand the problem you guys have with taurus. I presently own a raging bull in 454 and with many many hot loads through it, it still is tight and works great. I've owned multiple taurus 44 mags and work with a couple of guys that own the judge. I've never heard a complaint out of their mouths or anyone else I know that owns a taurus. I worked in a gun shop for 3 years and never had a customer who was not satisfied with the purchase of a taurus pistol. I'm sure there has been some problems out there, but any gun can and will have problems.

Concealed carry? With that?

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It is more intended to be carried in a car. I think if you were attacked it would just piss the attacker off. It has a TERRIBLE pattern.

Nick, your not forced to use the .410 shell. You can use 45 long colt for ccw.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkPurApky4U <--- The "Long Judge Carbine" at the shot show. I say CCW that!!!1

I suppose if you had a baddie in the hall way and not exactly shure where exactly he is then you could just bang away with the .410 shot sheels:confused0024:



LOL I R not serious

I suppose if you had a baddie in the hall way and not exactly sure where exactly he is then you could just bang away with the .410 shot sheels:confused0024:



LOL I R not serious

i honestly do not understand why so many find that thing appealing...

its not good at anything other than maybe fun on the range...

concealed carry?? come on..better off using it as a club IMO...patterns cannot be impressive past a few feet...

and i cant see 45LCs being accurate as they got the long cylinder to bounce around through then get slammed into the rifling...

shot and buckshot cant pattern great due to the rifling...

the size and bulk even on the smallest versions is bigger than your typical 38 or 357 suitable for concealed carry....

i just dont get it...but tons of guys are interested in them...and some even actually like them!?!?!

to each their own i guess...i just have no use for that thing...other than maybe a paper weight...

I like it if dependable.

I agree that it is a GREAT idea. I just wish another manufacturer would run with it (S&W). I have had two bad experiances with Taurus revolvers, or I would have one myself.

People who have had problems with Taurus complain loudly on the internet. People who have good experiences tend to just stay out of the fight.

When someone has a problem with a Smith or Ruger and complains on the internet, everyone bashes them. Huh.

I own two Taurus revolveds, a Model 85 38spl and a Model 627 41mag Tracker Titanium. Both guns are tight, accurate, and reliable. The only work I needed to do with a Wolf spring kit on the 85.

My brother-in-law bought an 85 at the same time and it had a bur he had to have filed off to time properly. Of course I have a Smith that had a flaw in the hand creating the same problem.

Do not let Taurus put you off, I would not buy their semis but their revolvers have done well by me. Test it before you buy as you should any gun.

Regarding the Judge, I have no doubt it is fun and a buddy just got one last week so I'll soon find out. However for self-defense you want stopping power and nothing coming out of a 410 shotshell has it. If you want to shoot 45LC there are better guns to do that in. If you want it for the fun factor go for it. If you are specifically looking for a carry gun there are better options.

I've got one that was a gift from a friend. It's been flawless in operation, and shoots great. I like the grip. With birdshot, it's worthless. With 000 Buckshot, it's devastating. I use Winchester (smooth hull) loads. With a good holster it's ok for CCW, but not great. It's rather large and bulky making concealment troublesome. IMO, it's a fun gun or a by-the-bedside piece. :popcorn:

The Judge is junk. Poor workmanship and quality. The only handgun, that in my 60 years, where the barrel FELL OFF on the third shot. If you want a hand gun for play, the Judge is OK if you don't mind the price. If your life depends on what you carry, the Judge would be my last choice. As of May 15th of this year, we have had 21 Taurus returns to the factory. Not all were this model, but the quality is just not there.

Guys the Judge fires a 410 shotgun shell and a 45 Colt cartridge. It's not 45 Long Colt.

For those who own Taurus's and are happy with them I'm happy for you. I'll stick with the American made Ruger's and Smith's.You can have my share of the Taurus.

I can't comment on the Judge, never shot one, but years ago, bought the wife a five shot Taurus .38 snubby, so-so craftsmanship, sloppy cylinder, cylinder to barrel gap too wide and yet it shots well, has been 100% reliable and wonder of wonders doesn't spit lead---for some reason, she loves it. I have always had Smith's and only Smith's, but lately a single six and a Redhawk have joined my collection and I'm more than impressed--very well made and reliable guns. My advice would be to get something that's downsized a little [ concealeable ], and chambered in 45 Long Colt or .44 Special--easy recoil and still packs a wallop, and would you believe it, Smith and Ruger both make such a gun!!--------------John

Too big and bulky for ccw. For that you'd be better off with a 45.ACP or a 5 shot revolver in 357. Maybe a Ruger sp101

Hillbillyhunter1 - You're going to continue to get good and bad reports here. I think there have been enough negative responces to warrant some further research on your part before you plunk down the cash for a Taurus revolver.

I have heard and read both terms used, and both are historically correct. It is the same cartridge. I have seen firearms so chambered roll stamped both ways.

My observation is that the Judge appeals to folks who have minimal experience with actual practical hand gun experience. It isnt built for anything at all other than the testosterone appeal. For CC there are minimally dozens of much better arms in the same or better cartridges, much more compact. Any of them can fire birdshot rounds for snakes. Take your pick of .45 caliber weapons that will be much more compact with the same # of rounds, and much lighter with a longer bbbl. taking the space of the outsized cylinder. It is totally inappropriate for hunting, and simply way too heavy for CCW. Sure, somone may for a day or two in the field, but once they pack a 4"or so bbl single action .357 or whatever, they would never go back If you have owned a S&W, Colt, Ruger, Beretta, etc. and then picked up a Taurus, you will quickly understand the diff. in quality.

I'll be the first to admit that your description is accurate when it comes to me Dave. I've grown up huntin and fishin all my life but have little experience with handguns. I only own one right now, a ruger mark II .22.

I thank you guys for your advice and have been decidedly talked out of pursuing the judge any further.

Now I'm leaning towards investigating either a springfield or glock subcompact in either .45 acp or .40

I can't really even put my hands on a gun until after April 15. that's why I'm trying to garner some learn-ed opinions now...

thanks again all

Both a Glock 23 and a Springfield XD 40 would serve your purposes well.

I had one, and gave it to my Mom to use when she had to live on her own. When I first bought it I had to send it back to have the cylinder realigned because it was hanging when shooting the 45s.. Took about a month to get it back, but it worked fine after that.. For an up close in home defense or from you car using 410 number 4's it is wicked or as a snake gun it would be fine..I wouldn't use it with the 45s as a defense gun though.

I couldn't say it better, And I will never understand the attraction. as with any job, you need the right tool and whether it be Home Protection or CC, this is not the right tool. Doc

What a friggin joke. I watched a guy at a gun show trade in a Marlin Guide gun for one of those. If you look up piece of crap in the dictionary, there will be a picture of that gun.

Had the pleasure of seeing an azzhole trying to hit skeet on station #7...