Are all Rem 700's created equal?
 

Stainless CDL has caught my attention. Fan of the fluted barrel. but jiminy cricket there are 25 models of 700's.

Whats the take on new ones?

Nothing larger than a mule deer, nothing longer than 500 yds. Preferably synthetic/stainless.

The wood stock would definitely find its way to ebay. Maybe a Bell & Carlson or Houge with full bedding. The XCR looks nice, but that stock with inlays is nasty. I didn't that they even made the Ti model anymore. Thinking 7-08 or 270, even 270 wsm.

The limited edition CDL is in 280, with a 24" barrel...might be a good compromise between the 7-08 and 7mm mag.

No experience with Kimbers...the posts here are a bit interesting though. I heard they had feeding problems with short mags, but since I'm not really looking at a short mag it wont be a problem.

After looking at the numbers from Federal on their TSX 140's 7-08 vs 208, doesn't look like any real gain except for about 6" of drop at 500 yds. One of the bummers of shooting factory loads. I'm leaning CDL 7-08 since the fluted 24" barrel may come in handy in the accuracy department vs the 22" lighter contour. Weight isn't really an issue. Good pair of boots will fix a pound of rifle any day...

Toying with reloading, might have a reason now. My current battery does fine with grocery store quality goods. Although considered blasphemy by some here...

The stainless cdl is the one w/ the woodstock I believe, makes little sense to me IMO, if you want a weather resistant rifle, go w/ the sps stainless , its the same gun w/ and injection molded syn stock, I had one in 7mag but sold it to but my 700 mtlss. The sps was pretty nice for the price, I actually liked the stock and finish (matte SS and jeweled bolt) on it, nice factory limbsaver recoil pad too. I wasnt too crazy about the Xpro trigger, and i found it a bit heavier than I like, but I found the quality very adequate, the only 700 I think is a little cheap looking is the all black sps and older adls.The new green stock triangle varmint guns look a little tacky to me too but, The SPS SS, the standard CDL, the BDL, and the MTlss are fine looking, fine quality, factory rifles IMO.

Quite an analogy, but effective....Reloading seems to be coming in the not so distant future, I'd like a few more choices in the world. No need thus far with 270 and 30-06....

I like the fluted barrel for rigidity...I'm over most of the newer wood stocked guns since I can do better with a bottle of tru-oil and a dembart tool in my garage. The plastic jobs from Remington seem kinda "Nerfy"

Their legacy speaks for it's self......................Model 700 !

didnt read the post...

but from my experience, the difference in m700 prices is stocks, and that sorta thing...

i bought a 700sps varmint the year they came out(think it was the first year)

its their lowest grade 700 if im not mistaken...

stock is CHEAP...but, the trigger is the same...but, its a m700 action! and ive fired multiple 5 shot sub-moa groups at 100yds...i might get called a liar...but rifle was stock and shooting the cheapest UMC value pack 22-250 ammo...

call me a liar...i too was in shock when i printed the first target...i had to sit at the range and do it a couple more times...and i did...

id like to take credit as the guy behind the trigger, but without a gun that can do it, the shooter cant achieve it...

i know alot of other guys on forums with the sps varmint and we all agree, shes a shooter right out of the box...i havent heard one complaint yet...

cant wait to swap the cheesy stock and float the barrel and have the trigger done..and work up some hand loads...excited to see what she can do then...im expecting 1 ragged hole...likely wont stop working on loads till i can do it...

so my thoughts are, a m700 is a m700 action...and when i swap the stock, it'll be hard to tell its the SPS other than the magazine floor plate drops instead of a detachable mag...but, its my varmint rifle...i could care less how it loads or unloads...big game rifle, i prefer a DM as im usually doing drives and in and out of the truck once every hour or 2 loading and unloading...just more convinent to drop a mag and work the action back and be unloaded...

Mechanically they are the same. I have a CDL and to me the finish is quite a bit better and it has a jeweled bolt.

Unreal, mods dump a guys comments in 30 seconds......

What the hell is everyone afraid of??

I had a syn/ss 700 bdl in 300 saum and didn't have any chambering problems at all with it. it was a shooter too once I finally found the right load combination for it.

With my 700 ddl I had to seat a OAL that would cycle through the magazine so couldn't get it real close to the lands. The stocks are hollow but I have read where some have filled them with the expanding foam and they claimed it helped the gun quite a bit. I can't back that up personally though.

Messed with a stainless CDL at a shop today....woof. Remington needs to either fire the jerk that cut the flutes in the barrel or sharpen the rusty hacksaw they used to do it with. Recoil pad is a pathetic piece of packing foam...

Never seen a hollow CDL stock. My CDL stock was walnut. Are you talking about the black synthetic SPS stock?

Do you know which pad it had. I've had remingtons with the older R3 pad and I have one with the new SuperCell. The SuperCell is thick and works as advertised.

Don't know which one, but it looked like pooo...Might have to take a look at the Model 70 Extreme Conditions rifle, if I ever hear some viable facts about it..

The Savage is $300 cheaper (MSRP).


That's $300 towards a "good" scope.

Emphasis on cheap..

NO..their like women, some you can live with and others, well you fill it in from there.. KEEP in mind that the new owners, from the military mind is only interested in keeping the line flowing and keeping them going bang under any condition... most 700 actions of old are somewhat the same.. the tolerances are also about the same and for the most part they were one of the better actions to work with, especially when a great gunsmith would true one for you.. some only required minimal .001ths here or there to make them darn near the quality of custom actions BUT todays are a different story, boy some of them coming through are a little on the ruff side to say the least and it's going to take some doing to straighten out them.. QUALITY control has taken a backseat to semi-auto big military cash control, they'd love to rearm the military with a new REMINGTON built semi-rifle..lots of slop, guarenteed to work in mud, snow, sand and whatever else you need it to..SO I'd say we're lucky they are as good as they are..triggers are great, lock time is ok but they are not BAT"s, STOLLE's, BORDEN's or any of the rest..EVERYTHING today is made for profit, what's left for us to reap or sow.. I'd say that if they ever talk the military into adopting their new line of slightly larger cartridges than the .223, the 700 action may become extinct!!! That's what happens when corporate America takes over.. let's hope that the military doesn't wipe them out and make them a memory..Still love the dozen I own, the old ones were a thing of beauty..

I don't know about the cry of corporate America. They had to make money when they were building guns 40 years ago, they got to make money now.

The problem is cheapa** America want's to spend $300 for a gun that cost $800 to build.

Just bad typing. I meant bdl.

Exactly right!! Then proceed to bitch about production for things getting moved overseas.

Frank in the Laurel hit it right on about the rough actions. Having handled the newer 700's the actions are not as smooth and clean as they used to be, in the SPS's. They still shoot, and pretty well at that, but the older ADL's were a much nicer gun. The CDL's and Sendero's are still very nice guns. They use better barrels for these and the actions are much smoother than the SPS's. That's where the price difference is. The CDL stainless will be a good rifle.