Winchester M70 Customer Service (FNH)
12-22-2009, 03:57 AM
#11
Nontypical Buck
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There are several after market triggers to choose from, but a competent gunsmith should be able to do an adjustment and trigger-job on your factory trigger and it would improve immensely, so much so I think you'd love it. A good trigger job with adjustment can make a so-so trigger feel like a custom piece. Much cheaper too.
However, if you must have a different trigger they are available. Could void a warranty though.
However, if you must have a different trigger they are available. Could void a warranty though.
12-22-2009, 04:10 AM
#12
Nontypical Buck
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I didn't ask them to tell me where to get a replacement trigger. Let me explain. The "New" M70 isn't exactly an M70. The action is very different and aftermarket triggers that work on the original M70 will not work on the "New" one.
I already did have a smith re-work the trigger. It still isn't nearly as good as a re-worked Original M70 trigger. Not even close. There is a 1/2 lb of variance between the tip and the middle. Every time I pick it up it feels different.
I already called Timney and they don't make one.
Again I wasn't asking them where to get an aftermarket trigger. I was asking them what other rifle has the same action to trigger mating so that I could find a trigger that would fit. They wouldn't even tell me if the trigger to action mating is unique to that rifle or if it's a copy of something else that FNH makes.
Their stance is basically they don't give out that kind of information.
If you shoot paper you will not be happy with the trigger in that rifle. If you just use your rifle to hunt it will be swell.
Again, I'm out of the factory rifle business from now on.
Tom
I already did have a smith re-work the trigger. It still isn't nearly as good as a re-worked Original M70 trigger. Not even close. There is a 1/2 lb of variance between the tip and the middle. Every time I pick it up it feels different.
I already called Timney and they don't make one.
Again I wasn't asking them where to get an aftermarket trigger. I was asking them what other rifle has the same action to trigger mating so that I could find a trigger that would fit. They wouldn't even tell me if the trigger to action mating is unique to that rifle or if it's a copy of something else that FNH makes.
Their stance is basically they don't give out that kind of information.
If you shoot paper you will not be happy with the trigger in that rifle. If you just use your rifle to hunt it will be swell.
Again, I'm out of the factory rifle business from now on.
Tom
12-22-2009, 04:13 AM
#13
Nontypical Buck
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Join Date: Aug 2004
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There are several after market triggers to choose from, but a competent gunsmith should be able to do an adjustment and trigger-job on your factory trigger and it would improve immensely, so much so I think you'd love it. A good trigger job with adjustment can make a so-so trigger feel like a custom piece. Much cheaper too.
However, if you must have a different trigger they are available. Could void a warranty though.
However, if you must have a different trigger they are available. Could void a warranty though.
Tom
12-22-2009, 04:18 AM
#14
Nontypical Buck
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It's not the most horrible trigger. But you get a bit jaded when you spent more than you should on a rifle that has advertising up the arse about the trigger and it turns out to be a dog even after spending $60 to have it adjusted.
All those morons had to do was leave the original Winchester Trigger in the rifle. Was that so difficult.
Yes I'm still pissed! Haven't beat the dog or the wife yet but if I stew long enough I'll get there. LOL.
Tom
All those morons had to do was leave the original Winchester Trigger in the rifle. Was that so difficult.
Yes I'm still pissed! Haven't beat the dog or the wife yet but if I stew long enough I'll get there. LOL.
Tom
12-22-2009, 04:24 AM
#15
Nontypical Buck
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It's not the most horrible trigger. But you get a bit jaded when you spent more than you should on a rifle that has advertising up the arse about the trigger and it turns out to be a dog even after spending $60 to have it adjusted.
All those morons had to do was leave the original Winchester Trigger in the rifle. Was that so difficult.
Yes I'm still pissed! Haven't beat the dog or the wife yet but if I stew long enough I'll get there. LOL.
Tom
All those morons had to do was leave the original Winchester Trigger in the rifle. Was that so difficult.
Yes I'm still pissed! Haven't beat the dog or the wife yet but if I stew long enough I'll get there. LOL.
Tom
Did Timney talk like they may eventually make a trigger for it? I would think as these rifles become more popular(assuming they will) more aftermarket parts would become available.
That is the one thing I like about a Remington 700......so many aftermarket parts....especially for someone like me, who does not need to spend the money for a custom rifle.
12-22-2009, 04:31 AM
#16
Nontypical Buck
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They didn't seem like they were going to rush to make one. They said they had a long list of triggers they were working on.
I'm going to do as BC said and call Jewel. My only issue there is I wasn't planning on spending that kind of money on a trigger.
If you're an aftermarket trigger kind of guy you're not going to be thrilled. It sucks to be particular!
Tom
I'm going to do as BC said and call Jewel. My only issue there is I wasn't planning on spending that kind of money on a trigger.
If you're an aftermarket trigger kind of guy you're not going to be thrilled. It sucks to be particular!
Tom
12-22-2009, 05:03 AM
#17
Spike
Join Date: Jul 2004
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Customer service
As others posted most likely manufacturer sensitive about their product, cant blame them. Before you replace the original let a gunsmith clean it up. I wanted to change mine on my savage .270 . Instead gunsmith worked on it for 20 bucks and it is a shooter...very pleased with pull !!!
12-22-2009, 05:33 AM
#18
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I didn't ask them to tell me where to get a replacement trigger. Let me explain. The "New" M70 isn't exactly an M70. The action is very different and aftermarket triggers that work on the original M70 will not work on the "New" one.
I already did have a smith re-work the trigger. It still isn't nearly as good as a re-worked Original M70 trigger. Not even close. There is a 1/2 lb of variance between the tip and the middle. Every time I pick it up it feels different.
I already called Timney and they don't make one.
Again I wasn't asking them where to get an aftermarket trigger. I was asking them what other rifle has the same action to trigger mating so that I could find a trigger that would fit. They wouldn't even tell me if the trigger to action mating is unique to that rifle or if it's a copy of something else that FNH makes.
Their stance is basically they don't give out that kind of information.
If you shoot paper you will not be happy with the trigger in that rifle. If you just use your rifle to hunt it will be swell.
Again, I'm out of the factory rifle business from now on.
Tom
I already did have a smith re-work the trigger. It still isn't nearly as good as a re-worked Original M70 trigger. Not even close. There is a 1/2 lb of variance between the tip and the middle. Every time I pick it up it feels different.
I already called Timney and they don't make one.
Again I wasn't asking them where to get an aftermarket trigger. I was asking them what other rifle has the same action to trigger mating so that I could find a trigger that would fit. They wouldn't even tell me if the trigger to action mating is unique to that rifle or if it's a copy of something else that FNH makes.
Their stance is basically they don't give out that kind of information.
If you shoot paper you will not be happy with the trigger in that rifle. If you just use your rifle to hunt it will be swell.
Again, I'm out of the factory rifle business from now on.
Tom
I know by talking with you in the past, you were excited about this rifle. Hate to hear your so disappointed.
12-22-2009, 06:50 AM
#19
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Jun 2008
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Midway says this will work on pre and post 64 model 70's.
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct...tNumber=228165
Supposedly this Timney will work after a bit of work
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct...tNumber=769235
Hope that helps.
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct...tNumber=228165
Supposedly this Timney will work after a bit of work
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct...tNumber=769235
Hope that helps.
12-22-2009, 07:23 AM
#20
Nontypical Buck
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Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Michigan
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Midway says this will work on pre and post 64 model 70's.
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct...tNumber=228165
Supposedly this Timney will work after a bit of work
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct...tNumber=769235
Hope that helps.
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct...tNumber=228165
Supposedly this Timney will work after a bit of work
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct...tNumber=769235
Hope that helps.
Thanks again.
BC,
Thanks. Yup I was very excited about this rifle. Extemely would be more like it. I still like this rifle and when there are after market triggers available I'll likely love it. Just seems for the money they could do much better. We're talking a $1k rifle here.
Tom
