AR Narrow the field?
 

I'm looking into getting me an AR type gun in .223.I know nothing about such guns and could use some suggestions as to which are worth looking into and those to avoid.I'll be using it mostly for hunting coyotes and such in fairly heavy cover.I haven't made any firm decision as regards sights yet.I'm considering scopes,Red Dot types and maybe even a peep with a fiber front blade.

All of the parts and pieces are interchangable, so just build your own. It's not as hard as you might think. Read up on how to do it, then start by buying a stripped lower receiver. It's the only part that requires a FFL and once you have it, all the other parts can be bought online. It's not only cheaper to do it this way, but in the end you will wind up with a gun that is exactly what you want. My 18 year old son just finished building one, and I supervised every step. The one thing that surprised me was the fact that no supervision was needed, it was so simple that it makes you wonder why anyone would buy a complete rifle.

I got parts from Delton and there customer service was great prices were good . You can even buy one of there complete rifles 20" chrome moly barrel flattop for easy scope mounting for like 750.00 plus shipping and transfer fee . I would buy from Bushmaster , Rock River for a complete unit also . > S&W make's there version also well they buy parts and put together I think Remington is doing the same thing and I dont realy think you are going to be all that much more accurate from these makers. In the end you know what your budget is and what you want to spend on . The parts I got were all mil spec rec & parts wilson barrel RRA lower parts kit. My understanding the lower receivers are only made at 2 or 3 places in the USA you maybe surprised were the big boys buy there parts . There are books that you can get that will help you throught the build part and if you go to like AR15.com there is a wealth of info

I believe the original poster asked a serious question requesting help deciding-your comment was not asked for or wanted-especially from someone with only 47 posts. Please keep smart comments to yourself unless you have something useful to add to the thread.

I can totally recommend DPMS as a first AR. I got my bull barrel "lo pro sweet 16" for 699 but have seen them on sale cheaper. It's very accurate and reliable. I use it as THE coyote rifle topped with a Burris 4.5x-14x scope.

Rock River Arms and Bushmaster makes some very nice AR's but they carry a hefty price tag.

Faliming will not be tolerated - have a Problem - Please just reprot the post - it will be taken care of. JW!

Bernie,

You won't go wrong with any of the major AR brands. Rock River Arms, DPMS, Bushmaster, Wilson Arms, and many others all make or market quality parts. The great thing about the AR is that everything is interchangeable, so you can buy the parts that you like the best and put together a rifle configured exactly as you want it. I have a Rock River stripped lower that I bought after the election "just in case" that's now waiting to be built upon. Not sure if I eventually want to build the whole rifle from scratch, or just build the lower and buy a complete upper and then customize it to my liking. I'm really interested in the 243 WSSM uppers to have the perfect crossover rifle. Another project on the back burner...:biggrin:

Mike

I've been seeing lots of great deals on used AR's. You might want to take a look at the used market.

Have you considered getting an AR-10? I don't know what it might do to a yote but in my book it's much more versatile.

Tom

I've always liked the AR platform since I was in the Marines. When you're looking at different models, you can get a shorter barrel if needed and still be able to easily switch it out for a longer barrel if you decide to do any varmint hunting in more open terrain. Also, many AR type rifle manufacturers are offering different calibers if you want or need anything a little heavier. So many choices, so little time. What a great problem to enjoy. :fighting0007:

Here's a good deal on a DPMS 16" upper:

http://www.dpmsinc.com/store/product...d=803&cat=1938

$444 for a the complete Panther Bull Sweet 16 upper. The stainless barrel might not be optimal, but a can of Krylon primer and another of flat black will take care of the shine issue. You can get a stripped lower for around $100-150 (my RRA lower cost $125), and a stock AR-15 lower parts kit costs in the ballpark of $50-75. Then you just need the buttstock/buffer of your choice (which start about $50 for a standard A2 buttstock and buffer, and go up form there) and you're in business. The only part that you'll need to have shipped to an FFL is the stripped lower receiver. Everything else is not regulated and can be shipped to your house.

Mike

Driftrider is right thas a pretty decent price and it includes the bolt& carrrier. And i stand corrected there are more mfg of lower rec then 2-3 some are machined better as in no milling marks and smoother areas

Thanks all!I like the idea of building one myself especially since I can save money in the process.Is there a good site with guidelines for doing this?

Bernie, you'll find every thing you need to know to build one yourself in the attached link.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=4&t=226782

Rock river dpms bushmaster armorlite s&w remington the list goes on. I have had to bushmasters great guns no problems. Get one that will do both 5.56 and .223. Some of the cheapo ars are not rated for 5.56 something about the pressure. I am getting another one this spring. I chose dpms mainly because I want a 308. I would not build one I have heard alot of stories of them not working right. Not that I am saying not to just might want to really think about your skill level in that matter. Plus if you go with a manf. gun you get a warranty. Try building a gun and asking dpms or who ever to warranty it.

From where? It's not rocket science!

I have talked with alot of guys on here that have trouble. I know onw guy here localy that built two nither worked and his buddy had a build build with on. I am not saying a smart guy who knows alittle about ars could not do it. I myself would not. It just ant worth it to me. Know if I knew alittle more about it all I might. My issue is in the lower. I could strip and reassemble a upper in no time. I just do not feel confident in my skills to do it. now when I get mine I might start a build just ot learn it. I think knowing how is a great thing to learn.

It might not be rocket science but to someone who has never assembled one or a trigger group it may be. One mess up could get you killed in a number of ways.

Anyone who talks like this should probably not be handling or shooting firearms.

I'm in the same position, just looking so far, but came across

Remington's R-15
It's camo, comes in .223rem, or .204ruger, 18", 22" or 24" barrels
check it out.

Take a look at these;


http://www.remington.com/products/fi...s-varmint.aspx

Though I have my grammar issues that one is due to the keyboard on the laptop I use going bad. Space bar does not work right niether does the n,e,o and a few others

USB keyboards cost less than $25 at Walmart... plug 'n' play. :pcwhack:

Mike

Howler thanks for the link!I'll go over all the info and see if it's something I can handle.If not the Bushmaster looks like a good choice.

Buying your lower from your pic of vendor and puting the parts kit toghter in it is almost like a simple puzzle . Buy your upper kit with the BCCG wich is already put togehter and your set , I think it took me 30 min and simple tools to do the lower. The biggest mistake I ve heard and have done myself is installing the hammer spring wrong Mine still functioned but I would have a FTF once and awhile I finally looked at it and went over diagram and found my error , just do your reseach and pick good quallity parts .

Here is a good assembly video I found shows you how and what tools he use's for the lower http://www.wonderhowto.com/how-to/vi...sembly-255593/