Why do so many hate the 30-06?
#11
#12
I don't think anyone hates it, per se. It's like what someone said above, everyone has one. 92 on the *yawn* factor.
Everyone respects it, it just doesn't "grab" you like a "Super short action belted long magnum improved westerner +p".
Anything new and odd sounding gets the oohs and ahhs at the gun counter and camp food trough.
Everyone respects it, it just doesn't "grab" you like a "Super short action belted long magnum improved westerner +p".
Anything new and odd sounding gets the oohs and ahhs at the gun counter and camp food trough.
#13
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#14
Hate the 06? I have several different rifles to hunt with, but the last one I would ever part with would be my 06. The 06 is one of the most versatile calibers on the market and has proved this for over 100 years now. Its the standard which all calibers are judged on. A wide variety of bullets sizes to chose from and ammo that can be bought any place that sells ammo. Not finicky to reload with very good accuracy. Jack of all trades but master of none. Not hardly the 06 has mastered just about everything. For medium size game I think you would be hard pressed to find a better caliber than the 06. I don't use mine as much as I use to, but thats because I just wanted to try some different calibers. I have a rem 700 that I bought 29 years ago, my wife uses a ruger m77 that I bought her 10 years ago. Those two rifles will stay in my gun safe from here on out.
#15
Spike
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 51
Personally, I think it's just down to the fact that some will always be attracted to shiny new things and that applies to guns as well. Being the 06 has now celebrated it's 103rd birthday, there isn't much shiny and new about it, but some things stand the test of time because they work and work and keep on working.
Even 103 years later, the 06 is still a very, very versatile caliber with tremendous performance in a wide variety of situations. I have to differ with anyone who uses that tired old line about it being the jack of all trades and the master of none. Countless thousands of head of game from deer to antelope to elk to African planes game have been mastered by the .30-06. What criteria are you using to determine that they could have been shot deader with some other caliber?
There are other versatile calibers out there. Some invented long ago, some are fairly recent. The .30-06 will probably be among the most versatile for as long as gun powder remains in use.
Grouse
Even 103 years later, the 06 is still a very, very versatile caliber with tremendous performance in a wide variety of situations. I have to differ with anyone who uses that tired old line about it being the jack of all trades and the master of none. Countless thousands of head of game from deer to antelope to elk to African planes game have been mastered by the .30-06. What criteria are you using to determine that they could have been shot deader with some other caliber?
There are other versatile calibers out there. Some invented long ago, some are fairly recent. The .30-06 will probably be among the most versatile for as long as gun powder remains in use.
Grouse
#17
the old '06
Well a cartridge that has been around over 100 years and still #1 or #2 in cartridge sales every year its obvious everyone doesn't hate it. The '06, while not the most efficient cartridge case can handle any game animal on this continent including the big bears. No, it wouldn't be my first choice but will definately do the job if the shooter does his. Yeah, there are faster, hotter, more powerful chamberings out there, but the old '06 just keeps plugging along and killing its share of game every year. Besides, it almost seems unAmerican not to own a 30-06 and a 30-30...
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#18
Fork Horn
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: canada
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i see no difference in some calibers out there. if someone shoots a big buck, does it make it any smaller or bigger if its shot with a 06? well thats not really a good point but almost all bullets were in some way effected by the 30-06. the 300 win mag was made to fit a 30-06 action. the 308 was based off it so any short action magnum was indirectly effected by a 06 offsping. the same can be said for most other medium/short action magnums and stanard calibers. and the few extra ounces of a long action isnt going to make or break a hunt.
#19
Typical Buck
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 604
The 06 has a lot going for it. It is the largest non magnum case and the cost of ammo is the same as cartridges that are less powerful like 243, 308, etc.
Its effective range is further than most huters can accurately shoot in the field. Its recoil is tolerable for 90% of the shooters.
Its popularity means many components are built around the 06s performance level. Take a look at the avaliable Powders, bullets, and quality brass that are loosely based around the 06s cartridge.
Premium bullets are really not needed at 06 velocities and the range of bullet weights are from 125 to 220 is as good as it gets in factory ammo.
The readily available variety of factory ammo is probably better than any big game cartridge.
Its effective range is further than most huters can accurately shoot in the field. Its recoil is tolerable for 90% of the shooters.
Its popularity means many components are built around the 06s performance level. Take a look at the avaliable Powders, bullets, and quality brass that are loosely based around the 06s cartridge.
Premium bullets are really not needed at 06 velocities and the range of bullet weights are from 125 to 220 is as good as it gets in factory ammo.
The readily available variety of factory ammo is probably better than any big game cartridge.
#20
When I was 15 years old I bought a Remington 700 BDL in 30-06. That rifle has served me well for the last 33 years. I think that it's funny when people say that they've graduated from their 30-06 to some super magnum, I just graduated this year from mine to a Marlin 336SS in 30-30.