help tame a 300 ultra mag
 

hey guys i need a little help..is it possible to get the recoil down to that of maybe a 270 ? i would apreciate any answers you care to give..bigbuckkiller29

Yep...buy a .270 or put on a muzzle break...

Get the best recoil pad made and then a muzzle brake would be the only way I know of taming it. Perhaps a smaller caliber with less recoil would really be the answer. 300 RUM is way more than needed for deer and if that is what you are hunting and want something that kicks like a .270 then trade that big boy in for something you will enjoy shooting.

They make a reduced power load that mimicks a 30-06. In the slightly heavier 300 ultra gun weight it would recoil nearly identical to the 270.

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YOU really only have about two choices, muzzle break it or reduce the powder charge.. if you reload or know someone who does get them to tone it way way down... it's actually very simple procedure and only a few grains of powder if make a big difference.. the muzzle break will also help BUT it will become a loud machine.. maybe a combination of both...or the level 1 ammo will help also..

Get a muzzle brake or get some Remington power level I ammo in 150 grain AccuTip about the same performance as a 30/06

Unfortunately that happens with a lot of magnum shooters. Id trade it for a 30-06 and enjoy the 100's of different factory loads that are available. People hate the 30-06 because its so popular. its that way for a reason.

I had the 7mm ultramag and I put a custom break on it and it really knocked the kick down. The heavier the gun the better it is to handle. When shooting these large loads I rather the models like the Sendero which are heavy.

Ron I am curious of why you would want him to stay away from a muzzle break?

Pretty universal reason way too loud. OK on the range with muffs but a real hearing loss machine if you shoot alot while hunting and don't use hearing protection.

Good recoil pad and a muzzle brake is the only way you're going to mimic a 270. I don't even know about loading down. You're still shooting 150 grain or heavier bullets and at 30-06 velocities or more. Probably only be able to get it down to 30-06 recoil levels by loading down alone.

One other thing - how does the stock fit you? That could be a big factor. I have a 300 Weatherby Magnum. Notorious as a heavy kicker. It fits me well and the recoil is not that bad. I can feel it pushing hard, but it doesn't hurt like some guns can. The comb on the stock is a big one. If it hits you in the cheek, it can really smart. Enough of those shots and you'll be talking and looking like Rocky Balboa :D

The new recoil pad helped a lot, too. I got the Kick-EEZ. I love it.

Trade it in for a 270..

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Well I have to agree about the noise but I do carry ear plugs. But if you are going to shoot the big mags....you have to reduce the recoil to be efficient at long distances

http://www.blackhawk.com/catalog/Rifle-Stocks,166.htm

make sure to check out the video and also make sure they have the EXACT stock for your model .... or you may have to do a little modifying to make it work. sappose to be a great stock.

Ultra Mag Recoil
 

Bigbuckiller29, all recoil is perceived....You already have a Limb Saver R3 recoil pad on it. About a soft as you can get. You can start by using a good set of ear muffs along with a good set of ear plugs under the good ear muffs. Then start out with a lighter bullet. If you reload, which I hope you do, your ahead of the game. You can tailor your loads for your training. Start with 150 Gr. bullets and work up from there. Everybody has some aversion to recoil. It's knowing it's going to nudge you and not caring anymore because your used to it. As your tolerance increases you can go heavier bullets and more velocity. You really need to train yourself.

I still remember how I flinched when I first started shooting my 308 in a 700 ADL years ago. It kicked like hell. I talked to some of the experienced shooters, they guided me in the right direction. I have 2 300 RUM, a 7 MM RUM, 375 RUM, 338 WIN MAG, 338 Imperial Mag and a 375 Canadian Mag. Besides the big pinchers I shoot some DGR stuff. I have a 458 WIN Mag, 458 Lott and in process with a 460 beltless Weatherby Mag. You train yourself to perceive the recoil. If you can block out all the severe muzzle blast your 65% there. Hang in there Bunky and conquer the menace, don't let it get the upper hand. When you get to shooting the 300 RUM you'll get to appreciate the extra distance and point blank range it will allow you in a do or die situation. You can bring that trophy home with a grin. :party0005:

try that powerlevel ammo... which is the equivalent to .300RUM, 300 Win mag, .30-06,

personally I dont see why you'd want to shoot .30-06 levels from a .300RUM though.

you can use a recoil pad, along with a muzzlebrake, if a gun is too much though, get something more manageable.

Unless you're going after elk at long range, so unless youre going after big game at long range, or just big/dangerous game, why a .300rum? especially if its too much gun to shoot accurately, a .270 will kill a deer at 500yds without thinking twice.

Its great marketing for youngins with dreams of killing a coastal grizzly but currently spend 3 days a year killin 80lb does.

my solution would be to trade it and buy a 270. I mean in central kentucky what are you going to use it for? I believe elk and black bear are the biggest game you can hunt in kentucky and they're in the south eastern part of the state if memory serves. Get something you know you can shoot.

I have a 300 Ultra Mag and just shot it yesterday with Power Level 1 150 gr. Remington factory Ammo. I also shot my .280 loaded with 140 gr. reloads. There was no noticeable difference between the two for me. The .280 is a light Remington Mountain Rifle and the 300 UM is a bit heavier but has a synthetic stock, both have R3 pads. So the 300 is a little heavier because of the 26" barrel. The Power Level 1 does reduce recoil to around the .270, .280 & 30-06 range IMO. Give it a try, I think you will like it.

Yes, there is help!
 

I bought my wife a Rem Mod 7 in 300 WSM. At about 7.5 lb with a scope the recoil was brutal!!! I sent it to Magna Port and for $150 they installed a muzzle tamer. It's SWEET! that 300 WSM shoots like a .243! My wife has since killed 2 bears, a moose and caribou with it!

The idea in my post was to shoot stuff that he can handle and work into heavier stuff to train himself to handle the recoil. With some time and effort he'll be shootin that big mag like a PH. It will just be another gun by then.:party0005:

I gotta go with relentless pursuit.. If you have a rifle that you enjoy shooting and can be accurate with then you will kill more game than the big 300 RUM that you have now. Maybe I'm not seeing it but you never did answer what you hunt for and what your typical hunting situation is. IMO you can waste money on trying to fix a rifle that you can't shoot or you could get one you can shoot.. seems simple to me

Whoa! Back up.

My BS meter just went off.

I've been around guns since I was as tall as them and just a little taller when I killed my first monster buck. I have also been around a lot of gun guys in my days; from snipers, range lizards, deer hunting freaks to competition fanatics. NEVER had I heard that before.

Personally I wouldn't say "hate", but I don't appreciate the 30-06. Who gives a **** if you can have many different rounds for it? Around here it's like a 30-30; many people have them, but it's not their go-to gun when it comes time for the deer woods. For me it's too large a caliber than necessary. My favorite deer rifle is the .270 because I can take them out several hundreds of yards away, but most my shots are under 200yds and can get the job done with a .243 just fine. I have several calibers to choose from and the -06 is back of the list for me.

I tried to buy one here a week ago or so. I had a chance to buy a Rem 700 CDL SF in 30-06 for a great price, but declined. I just don't need it. When I find "my" price, I'll add it to my collection.

As for taming the big boy cannon, you can have someone make reduced powder loads, get a good recoil pad, use lighter bullets and find the new brake maker that can make a brake that is not as loud as the others.

iSnipe

Oh this will be good...do elaborate on both quiet brakes and/or quiet ports.

Be sure and stick your neck wayyyyyyyyyy out on this one................

i met a guy who owns Evolution USA rifles. i asked him about reducing recoil on a .338 i was interested in buying, he said his wife shoots a .500 nitro in africa. she weighs 125lbs. and is about 65 years old. he also said loose the muzzle break and save your ears. so lets not be macho here. if its for hunting and a rare target shoot, you will get used to it. but if ur nervous about the kick buy a .270 wsm. you can also get a trigger job done and that will help with the flintch a but MAYBE.. trigger job $100.00 new gun $800.00

1) mercury recoil absorption in stock secured by expanding foam
2) In ear plugs plus over the ear hearing protection while target shooting
3) "lead sled" for target shooting or reduced power loads with 150 gr bullets
4) NO BRAKE!!!
5) Shoot until you cant stop flinching and then sell the rifle OR shoot until you wonder why the recoil ever bothered you and enjoy the gun, whichever comes first