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mcorso 09-29-2009 02:43 PM

best all around for north america
 
Hey guys, I finally got a tc encore, and plan to get another barrel for it soon. But not sure what caliber to get. I would like to be able to hunt any big game in North America at a drop of a hat and be prepared. so my question which cailber? . im leaning towards .270 , also which caliber for coyotes? .223, thanks

Big Z 09-29-2009 03:29 PM

Well, I love the 7mm Remington Magnum. Good for antelope with 120s, deer with 140s, and it has quite a reputation for elk. Just depends if that's all the bigger you're wanting to hunt. Nothing wrong with a 270, 280, or 30-06 either (of which I always wanted a 280), and numerous other cartridges. The good thing about shooting a 28 or 30 cal is the bullet variety favoring elk, without giving up anything for smaller game.

The 223 is a perfect yote cartridge. Since I handload, I'd go with a 22-250 myself. Keeps ammo cost about the same with the ability to make things hot for a flatter shooting gun, and shots can get long from the yote hunting I've done.

jeepkid 09-29-2009 03:46 PM

Does "any big game in North America" include brown bears to you? If so, you better be looking at a .338 or bigger...

skeeter 7MM 09-29-2009 05:31 PM


Originally Posted by jeepkid (Post 3458281)
Does "any big game in North America" include brown bears to you? If so, you better be looking at a .338 or bigger...

Agreed. I am really develop a liking for my 338wm. So far deer, elk and moose have fallen to a single shot...awesome results for the variety and only 1 bullet used.

For a varmiter I too agree with 22-250, reloader as well:s4:!

TUK101 09-29-2009 06:32 PM

223 and 300 win mag.

bigbulls 09-29-2009 07:22 PM

AS was said above, if big bears are on the list i would opt for a 338.

If you mean everything but big bears then the .270, .280, 30-06 are all excellent choices.

For coyotes the .223 and .22-250 would be my top choices followed closely by the .243.

statjunk 09-30-2009 04:19 AM

For everything but varmints and big bears I'd go to the 300WM. You have everything in between and long range. You could shoot varmints and big bears with a 300 WM it's just not a the best. Too much powder and power on one end and arguably not enough power on the other. Though I wouldn't hesitate to shoot a big bear with mine given the right bullet.

Tom

homers brother 09-30-2009 04:20 AM

Which barrel do you already have?

I generally recommend the .30-06 if you're going to have ONE caliber. You'll be overgunned for coyotes, slightly undergunned for brown bears (which most of us in the lower 48 will never hunt in the first place).

And, in all sincerity, many of us end up blinded by "big bears" when we're choosing a caliber. Chances are that if you can afford a guided brown bear hunt, you can also afford a dedicated brown bear rifle. Otherwise, encounters with bears are likely going to be blacks (which will fall to a .243), or grizzlies (which are considerably smaller here in elk country than they are in coastal Alaska/Canada - and will fall to a .30-06 or .300)

If you can have TWO calibers, I recommend the .243 on the low end for everything through deer-sized game, and something in the .338 class for elk and up. You'll be a shade overgunned for coyotes.

IndyHunter83 09-30-2009 05:36 AM

I would go with a .338. if it were more than one barrel then I'd go for a few others.

Sheridan 09-30-2009 11:25 AM

What Homers said +1

Rebel Hog 10-01-2009 06:14 AM


Originally Posted by bigbulls (Post 3458590)
AS was said above, if big bears are on the list i would opt for a 338.

If you mean everything but big bears then the .270, .280, 30-06 are all excellent choices.

For coyotes the .223 and .22-250 would be my top choices followed closely by the .243.

I also agree!

Centaur 1 10-01-2009 11:06 AM


Originally Posted by homers brother (Post 3458805)
Which barrel do you already have?

I generally recommend the .30-06 if you're going to have ONE caliber. You'll be overgunned for coyotes, slightly undergunned for brown bears (which most of us in the lower 48 will never hunt in the first place).

And, in all sincerity, many of us end up blinded by "big bears" when we're choosing a caliber. Chances are that if you can afford a guided brown bear hunt, you can also afford a dedicated brown bear rifle. Otherwise, encounters with bears are likely going to be blacks (which will fall to a .243), or grizzlies (which are considerably smaller here in elk country than they are in coastal Alaska/Canada - and will fall to a .30-06 or .300)

If you can have TWO calibers, I recommend the .243 on the low end for everything through deer-sized game, and something in the .338 class for elk and up. You'll be a shade overgunned for coyotes.


This is an excellent idea, it's what I would do. The .243 is a great caliber for coyote and deer, and the .338 for elk through brown bears.

statjunk 10-01-2009 11:30 AM

How about best all around rifle that perhaps will be shot at long distance? Lets say 600 yards.

Would the .300 WM be the candidate or would folks still stick with the .30-06?

Tom

vipertech 10-02-2009 11:16 AM

No man should be forced to pick one gun/caliber to fill hunting needs.

Honey....I need the following:

.22 for squirrels, rabbits
.223 for coyotes, woodchucks
7mm-08 for whitetails
.270 for antelope
.300 for elk
.338 for moose, bear

Etc.

You get the point. LOL

tennboy 10-02-2009 12:24 PM

.280 for all animals including large black bears. I think the 25-06 would be very fun for the coyotes. .280 rem is my favorite and have proven it deadly here on southern whitetails and on Canadian whitetails. Recently on a 6 1/2 foot Alaskan black bear. So far the bear was the only critter to take a step after impact, he only took 4 or 5 steps.

Sniper151 10-03-2009 04:10 PM

7mm Rem mag. or 300 Win mag.

Remmy243 10-03-2009 04:47 PM


Originally Posted by vipertech (Post 3461535)
No man should be forced to pick one gun/caliber to fill hunting needs.

Honey....I need the following:

.22 for squirrels, rabbits
.223 for coyotes, woodchucks
7mm-08 for whitetails
.270 for antelope
.300 for elk
.338 for moose, bear

Etc.

You get the point. LOL

Agreed for the most part! However....

.22/squirrels, rabbits
.223/home protection
.308/whitetail
.270/antelope
7mm Rem/mule deer
.300 Win Mag/elk and bear

DANTHEHUNTER 10-04-2009 05:24 AM

I'll take my .300 wm,45/70,yotes with my .220 swift

NITEHAWKJS 10-04-2009 06:04 PM

I would go with a 35 Whelen or the .338

choctawhunter85 10-05-2009 08:25 PM

.223 for yotes and 30.06 for everything else.


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