stalkingbear

The 7mm rem mag headspacing on the belt applies to factory ammo ONLY. When you reload you set the sizing dies to headspace off the shoulder when neck resizing.

stubblejumper

It makes no sense to compare the hottest 30-06 load with a mild 7mmremmag load.It would make just as much sense to compare the 7mmremmag heavy mag load to a standard 30-06 load.

The only feasible comparison of the 30-06 and the 7mmremmag cartridges is to either use standard loads for each,or use the light mag/heavy load for each.To do otherwise is a biased and totally useless comparison.

The same would apply if I did a 308win vs 30-06 comparison using the 308 light magnum 165gr load against the standard 30-06 load.The results would be that the 308win load would have superior ballistics.Would that be a fair comparison?It's just as fair as your 30-06 vs 7mmremmag comparison.

Uncle Mike

Your right... but thatWAS my comparison. No fairness involved, just opinions.
And your heavy mag comparisonis just also. There is no right or wrong.

It is what it is....

Scott Gags

You obviously did not look at the $57.17 list price compared to the 06 at $39.31 when you typed the quote above. The reason it makes sense to compare 06 Light Mag ammo to standard 7mm Rem ammo is the Light mag ammo costs less than standard 7mm ammo with the same bullets and offers greater performance. When you dont want or need the extra power of the light mags you can always buy standard 06 ammo for less coin.

I was responding to the original poster who specified his longest shots at 250 yards. My intend was to help the original poster, your intent on most posts seem to be trolling for a conflict.

When you run the Federal 80 grain softpoint which is designed for deerit is .1 flatter at 250 yards for less than half the money.

stubblejumper

I would never pay $57.17 Canadian for the 7mm heavy mag load,let alone in American funds.Wholesalesports.com which is a Canadian supplier sells the 30-06 165gr interbond light magnum load for $41.99 while the 7mmremmag heavy magnum interbond load costs $50.99 both in Canadian funds.That amounts to $9 Canadian difference rather than your $18 American difference.Russells Sports,another Canadian supplier,lists the two SST loads for a difference of $7.
Midwayusa lists the 30-06 light magnum 165gr loads at $30.49 and 34.99 for the sst and interbond loads,while the 7mm heavy magnum loads are listed at $36.49 and $41.99 for the same sst and interbond bullets.That amounts to a difference of $6 for the sst loads and $7 for the interbond loads.
Ables lists the two 30-06 165gr light magnum loads at $31.80 and $36.38 for the ssst and interbond,while the 7mm heavy magnum loads are listed at $38.78 and $44.21 for the sst and interbond loads.The differences amount to Less than $7 for the sst and less than $8 for the interbond loads.

Obviously your shopping skills are lacking.

I choose not to use the standard cup and core 80gr soft points for our Canadian bucks which often exceed 300lbs live weight.Using bullets suitable for large bodied deer,the 7mmremmag does shoot flatter.

Scott Gags

I guess you do not know what list price means?

The pricing I gave were lists prices from the hornady site and was responding to your quote above and I pointed out the costs of the heavy mag7mm are far higher than the standard 06.Wiht all your extensive pricing research it has got be clear to you that the 06 Light Mags costs less than the 7mm standard loads while the 7mm Heavy mags cost considerably more that the standard 06 loads when the same bullets are used. Even your own Light Mag to Heavy Mag comparisons demostrate a 20% higher costs for the 7mm for nearly identical performance.

stubblejumper

I didn't bother with list prices,since in this case ,they aren't at all what a person would expect to pay.I believe that it is far more accurate to use prices that people are actually paying for the product.

The pricing that you posted were not at all realistic,so they prove nothing.The actual costs listed by the suppliers that I referenced prove that the 7mmremmag heavy mag loads are only $6 to $8 a box more than the 30-06 light magnum loads,so the heavy magnum loads are not really far higher than the light magnum loads.If you can afford to pay close to $40 for a box of ammunition,and extra $6 or $8 is not going to break the bank.

Except that the performance is not nearly identical.
At 400 yards the 7mm heavy magnum load drops 3-1/2" less with a 200 yard zero,and at 500 yards the difference is over 7" compared to the 30-06 light magnum load.
Coincidentally,the difference between the standard 30-06 165gr interbond load and the 30-06 light magnum 165gr interbond load are virtually identical.

So if 3-1/2" at 400 yards and 7" at 500 yards are nearly identical to you,why both with the 30-06 light magnum load?

Scott Gags

I guess you dont know what standard 06 means?

That is nice and all but the poster I was responding to specified 250 yard shots. What does that trajectory look like?

stubblejumper

You posted.

So are you telling us that "Standard" 30-06 ammunition lists for $39.31 where you shop?If you are telling us that,you are even a worse shopper than I thought.


Then why would you even mention the 30-06 light magnums,as you did very early on in this thread?They offer no significant trajectory advantage over the non light magnum loads at 250 yards.

You are the one that brought the 30-06 light magnum loads into this thread to try to convince people that they give the 30-06 a trajectory equal to that of the 7mmremmag,but when it was shown that the 7mmheavy magnum loads offer a superior trajectory,you suddenly want to forget about the light magnum/heavy magnum loads because the original poster specified 250 yards.Nice try,but still a losing effort!

Scott Gags

You are one weird dude!

Where did I ever claim "superior trajectory" for the 06.