assault rifle dilema
 

hey all,i havent posted in a while . but i am planing on buying a rifle like a colt ar-15considering price quality, and reliability, etctheir a lot of manufacturers bush master stag ,armalight etc. who gives the best value for the price thanks mike

RE: assault rifle dilema
 

Rock River Arms and Olympic Arms followed by DPMS. Opinion only!

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Top tier:
Sabre defense
LMT
Les Baer
Colt

Next tier:
Rock River
Bushmaster
Armalite

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RE: Not an assault rifle!
 

I agree with Ron, how are the sheep ever going to become educated if we ourselves keep calling ar platform rifles "assault rifles". Call it what it is, a semi auto AR 15. Like Ron I don't have a practical use but would bend over backwards to support one's right to own and shoot one.

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AS far as BEST bang for the buck IMO the Rock River would be hard to beat. IMO, when you buy a colt, you're paying for the name more so than paying for best bang for the buck. Les Baer is custom, again, great rifle with accuracy garauntee, but not necassarily the best bang for the buck. Bushmaster and Armalite are good rifles for the money. Heck, even DPMS makes good stuff for the money.
The biggest problem that you'll run into right now is not paying too much. With the current very high demand for these rifles comes a higher than normal cost for them. IF you can find any of them made by the makers listed in this post for $1000. or less, in new condition, you've found a smokin' deal.
I've got two custom builts that I use to hunt predators with. Not long ago, I didn't see a need or have a desire to own and use them for hunting. BUT after I got to borrow an AR-10 Armalite from a buddy while calling coyotes, I soon realized the benefits of the quick follow up shots. I even plan on using my AR-243 wssm. to hunt antelope this fall. These days, the AR style rifles can be just as accurate as most off the shelf bolt guns and in the predator hunting worl, they have become very popular, with even Remington making thier own version in the R-15 and R-25.
Good luck with finding one that you like at the right price.

RE: Not an assault rifle!
 

I don't know much about assault rifles but the CZ looks like a good one at a reasonable price.

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Personally I think DPMS is the best bang for the buck in AR15s. I have a couple of them & they appear to be underrated. Naturally I had to change a few things on them to make them exactly to my liking.

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FYI; the "Remington" R-15 and R-25 rifles are actually rebranded Bushmaster rifles. Remington is owned by the same company that owns Bushmaster.

Mike

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Unless you're willing to wait, you're likely to be stuck with whatever is in the dealers' racks.

Most of what I've seen lately have been Bushmasters, with DPMS a close second. From what little I know about them, either of them would be a reliable rifle. I've also seen a few of the S&Ws, and know a couple owners who are quite happy with them.

If you want a Rock River, plan on waiting - and the wait is worth it. I have a Rock River Entry Tactical and a Colt Gov't Model AR15A2, and the Rock River is the better shooter, hands-down - though the Colt's just as accurate as any military M16A2 I've used.

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DPMS is part of the same conglomerate as well. Not entirely sure, but its likely the Remington R-25 (AR-10 type) rifles are made by DPMS.

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I'm also going to buy an AR-15 type semi-auto really soon.The only off the rack guns around here are Bushmasters,S&W MP series,and DPMS.They're all first rate guns.I want one just for target shooting for the fun of it,shooting coyotes,and I've never owned a .223.I'm also considering a Mini 14.The S&M MP and the Mini 14 are the cheapest as far as price goes(around here anyway).Would you go with one of those two ,or pay a few hundred more and go with one of the others?I realize that in most cases,it's a matter of opinion,but I'd certainly appreciate any feedback.Thanks.

RE: Not an assault rifle!
 

S&W makes a good AR-15. If you have any interest in accuracy at all, skip the Mini-14.

RE: Not an assault rifle!
 

hey remfire, i usedto have a mini 14 i wasnt real happy about its accuracy. it was an older model with the wooden fore end on the top . i sold it because it would slam fire if it was loaded on safety and it was either droped or intencialy slaming the butt on a hard surface. im kind of leaning toward a stag ar type of ar model. does any body have any feed back on stag rifles?

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It all boils down to who you are going to assault with it.:D(just kidding)I see you changed it to a non assault...but pro gun people should watch their terms in this stinking day of political correctness. I've owned 3 ar15's. I would not buy another one unless it was a Bushmaster. I had bad luck with the other two.

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go with model1sales or delton.
i have 2 model 1 guns and both work like a champ.
you can get a plinker at around $500 or a souped up one for around $800
most important thing on a gun is the barrel and model 1 guns have barrels from E.R. Shaw
they've been in the buissness for 30+ years
all they other manuf. listed are good but you will pay for the name
i don't care what is stamped on the side of my receiver really
i just want a gun i can take out yote hunting and do some plinking with
i just recently got a kit from model 1 and plan to put it together with a cmmg (i believe it's called) stripped lower
for $800 i got a heavy 20" stainless steel barrel
free floating tube
A3 upper with charging handle and bolt
the magpul adjustable stock, nice stock
psg1 pistol grip
chambered in 5.56 (you can get them in either .223 rem or 5.56 .... there is a difference)
parts for the lower, plan on putting in a chip mccormick anyway, nice simple trigger system, have one in my other ar and love it
so bang for your buck you really can't beat model 1 or delton
check them out on their site

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try gunbroker.com

I was in the market for an ar early this year and decided on a rock river. the dealer told me I'd have to wait a year for backorder. I went on gunbroker and after being patient for a couple of weeks found exactly what I was looking for. Paid about $100.00 more than retail (not counting shipping and receiving costs) and was completely satisfied that I got a relatively good deal, given the demand circumstances and had the gun in a couple days...YEEHAW!

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As far as Del-Ton, I FINALLY recieved an order about 3 weeks ago I'd placed in dec. I'd think twice about ordering from them right now.