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halcon 04-22-2003 01:52 PM

RE: 270-Weatherby mag???
 
The new 243wssm ,a 25-06 and a 270wsm should fill in the gap (thats more than a hole there) quite nicely .The 280 Rem is a good round but nothing special in my opinion. Halcon

Prairie Boy 04-22-2003 02:37 PM

RE: 270-Weatherby mag???
 
having the calibers you have and if i wanted something to fill the gap between the 22-250 and the 7mm stw i would choose a 257 weatherby as my next cartridge. it shoots super flat and packs a punch. recoil won' t be unmanigable either. as for gun i would buy a ultra light weight from weatherby. my friend bought the same rifle and gun, put a zeiss 3-12x56 on it and it' s his first pick when he' s after white tails. he has taken everything from yotes to elk with it and he' s never had a problem with it yet. i shot it at the range and it' s a sweet package that' s for sure.
the 280 as you know uses the same dia bullets as you 7mm stw so i don' t really see the point in picking one up since you already have a rifle in that caliber.

later

stubblejumper 04-22-2003 06:36 PM

RE: 270-Weatherby mag???
 
I would go with the 25-06 or 257 wby as everthing the 270wby mag will do your 7mmstw will do better.

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Vapodog 04-22-2003 08:18 PM

RE: 270-Weatherby mag???
 
Filling the gap would best be done with a .260 Remington. If you' re into reloading I' d suggest the 6.5-06 built on a featherweight rifle.

This may surprise you....I once had two .257 weatherbys.....I now own a .257 Roberts that I' m much happier with.

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handloader1 04-22-2003 09:53 PM

RE: 270-Weatherby mag???
 
I go with the Weatherby Mark V Ultra Lightweight 270 Wby. Mag. it will do every thing you want and more. Good luck.

seattlesetters 04-22-2003 10:19 PM

RE: 270-Weatherby mag???
 
I have hunted with the .270 Wby Mag for many years, and have taken over a dozen elk and deer with it. For what you suggest, I would have to recommend it wholeheartedly.

In terms of the .257 Wby Mag, it is just a tad light for elk, if you include 21-day elk hunts in your criteria for this rifle. I know it will do it, but I just don' t feel comfortable with it. The .270 Wby Mag will take any elk that has ever lived at any range normal hunters should be shooting at one. I have shot bulls with it from as far as 325 yards and it drops them as if they were hit by a neutron bomb. [X(] And at that range I didn' t have to worry about holdover...the bullet hit where I aimed and the 5-pt bull dropped in his tracks, the 150gr Partition doing unbelievable damage.

In terms of the 7mm STW, I would disagree with Stubblejumper and say that the .270 Wby will do anything the 7mm STW will do and will do so with much less recoil, therefore making it a more accurate round to shoot. I agree that the STW is a better round at extreme long range, but only 1% of the hunters out there are capable of shooting at a range that is beyond the capability of a .270 Wby Mag, and even at that, only about 1% of the shots those marksmen may ever be presented with would actually require the extra horsepower. That is too little need to put up with the increased recoil. With all due respect to Stubblejumper, who is one of those hunters who can take advantage of the extra reach, the .270 Wby has to get my vote if you want a rifle that can do all you ask in a package that light and still be manageable at the bench.

As far as recoil, most of you know that I am ultra-sensitive to it because of multiple shoulder injuries and the resulting surgeries. At the bench, I can shoot a .270 Wby Mag all day long and show no ill effects. I can put maybe three groups through a 7mm STW and then I have to put it away.

As far as the .280 is concerned, the .270 Wby Mag is much more capable and doesn' t present the shooter with much more recoil, if any at all.

For an alternative, I am inclined to agree with Vapodog that the 6.5-06 may be something else you should consider. You may even take a hard look at the 6.5x.284. There isn' t much difference between the killing power of the 140gr 6.5mm bullet, the 150gr .277-cal bullet and the 160gr 7mm bullet when launched at nearly the same velocities.

I don' t have any experience with the new Ultralight rifles by Weatherby, but everyone I have spoken with who has tried one says they are tack drivers and a very good value.

Robert, don' t count out a semi-custom rifle. There are many gunsmiths out there who can put together a damn-fine rifle for about $1,200 or so.

You won' t be disappointed if you choose the .270 Wby Mag. In fact, you may discover what far too few hunters have: The .270 Wby Mag may be one of the finest all-around big-game cartridges of all time.

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James B 04-22-2003 11:09 PM

RE: 270-Weatherby mag???
 
I would look to the up and comming 270 WSM. Soon ammo and components will be easy to get and I think for the money and the selection the WMS is a better buy. I have been real unhappy with the Weatherby rifles I have owned. Never had one that would shoot like the money demanded for them. As mentioned above the 25-06 would be a good choice as would a light wt 260 Rem. Another remark on Weatherby. Roy Weatherbys favorite for elk was his 257 Weatherby Mag With a good bullet its like a bolt of lightning on Elk. His words Not Mine.

bigcountry 04-23-2003 11:43 AM

RE: 270-Weatherby mag???
 
I would pick the 270WSM or 300WSM over the weatherby rounds. I had weatherbys before and its kinda a pain to reload for with the freebore the weatherbys have. Also factory loads was so expensive for weatherby. Also have the belt. I just like rounds that headspaces on the shoulder. A lot of plus' s on the WSM. I did alot of research on the finlights and weatherby ultralites, and groups wasn' t all that great either.

But I recently was inpressed with the browning rifles these days. Pretty light also.

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stubblejumper 04-23-2003 07:07 PM

RE: 270-Weatherby mag???
 
Seattlesetters-I must disagree about your assessment of the 7mmstw' s recoil and it' s accuracy.My own rifles are just over nine pounds with scope and have decellerators on mcmillan stocks and recoil is quite manageable.I have fired a lightweight 270 weatherby and found the recoil to be not much less than that of my stw' s.As to the accuracy issue I have no problems averaging 1/2" groups at 100 yards with either of my stw' s and I know of a few owners of sendero' s in 7mmstw that find them to be their most accurate rifle.No 270wby magnum will deliver 3500fps with 140gr uncoated bullets with a 26" barrel like my stw' s will.Granted many people do not have the shooting skills to take advantage of the super flat trajectory but for those that can the 7mmstw is superior to the 270wby.In any case the 270 wby will do nothing that his 7mmstw can' t.In fact a non handloader would be far better off with a 7mm rem mag than 270 wby as recoil is the same and 7mm rem factory loads are much cheaper and come in many more loadings.

seattlesetters 04-23-2003 11:33 PM

RE: 270-Weatherby mag???
 
If you' re looking for a rifle like the Weatherby Ultra Light that weighs 5 lbs., I think the 7mm STW is going to hurt you real bad. I don' t think the .270 Wby Mag will be a picnic in a rifle that light, but it should be manageable.

If your personal range limit is 400 yards, the .270 Wby will do everything the STW will out to that range, and it will do it with less recoil.

The recoil numbers on the .270 WSM are about the same as the Weatherby number, and its performance is only slightly less...about the same difference that exists between the .270 Wby and the 7mm STW. It may be an easier cartridge to handload, however I don' t have any experience with the new shorter cases.

If you want a really light rifle, I' d go with the Weatherby Ultra Light in .270 Wby Mag because I know that cartridge will do everything you require. If you don' t mind another pound or two, the Browning Rifle in .270 WSM should perform almost as well out to the ranges you specify, and you can spend the extra money on high-quality glass.

Another option that I consider very viable in a rifle that light is the 6.5x.284. It has ballistics similar to the 6.5-06, the 6.5mm Rem Mag and the .270 Win but kicks a bit less than the other three. And with the awesome sectional density and penetrating ability of 6.5mm bullets--especially the 140gr--it will take any game animal you would ask this rifle to take. In fact, one of the nicest all-around rigs I have ever used is a 5 lb. custom rig in this chambering that has taken a couple of truckloads of deer, elk, antelope and a few other things quite cleanly. Having shot an antelope with it myself, I can tell you that in a rifle that light, it doesn' t kick at all. My buddy who owns it has taken mule deer and elk both beyond 400 yards with this rifle, and they go down hard and die quickly every time.

If forced to give up my .270 Wby Mag, I' d gladly replace it with a 6.5x.284 and a .338-06. I think these two would do everything I would ever need on this continent.

Quilly 04-24-2003 03:13 AM

RE: 270-Weatherby mag???
 
Robert Scott...

i think you need yourself a 35whelen. if you already have a 7mmSTW why get a .277 cal?
the 35whelen would just be what you might be looking for.

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stubblejumper 04-24-2003 08:57 PM

RE: 270-Weatherby mag???
 
If 300 yards is your maximum the 280 would be a fine choice.Mild recoil yet it has plenty of power for the game and ranges mentioned.

NorthJeff 04-25-2003 06:59 AM

RE: 270-Weatherby mag???
 
Robert,

Just picked up a Savage 16BSS .270WSM. Will shoot it this weekend, but it' s a real nice looking gun. Brown laminate stock, and stainless. Had the barrel bead-blasted for a duller look, and the trigger worked on, but it was still under $700 total, and I was able to spend a little more for a nice Swarovski scope. It says it' s 7 3/4 pounds, but it felt lighter than the Winchester laminate-havn' t weighed it though, might still be a little heavy for you.

Looks great and it should be a shooter, but....we' ll see.

Both Gander Mountain and Wal-Mart carry ammo for it, pretty decent price too.

Jeff...U.P. of Michigan

seattlesetters 04-25-2003 07:47 AM

RE: 270-Weatherby mag???
 
Robert - I don' t see any reason why a .270 WSM shouldn' t do what you need. The .270 Wby Mag is an awesome cartridge that will do more than you need, I know this much for sure. And the WSM isn' t far behind, if at all.

Pick the one you like and the one that fits your budget and I' m sure you' ll be happy with either.

TREEDOG 04-26-2003 12:34 PM

RE: 270-Weatherby mag???
 
Robert, a great site to research on the wsm line is [link]http://www.shortmags.org/shortmags/[/link] loads of hunters here sharing knowledge and experience with the 3 wsm' s. I picked up a box of 130gr 270 wsm for 25$ at my local wal-mart. I havent got to shoot my gun yet, cant get to the range till after turkey season (May 6th) sense its located on a wma where hunting is going on.


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