Which Scope?
 

Help me decide on a new scope. Which would you pick and why?

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You forgot the "neither one" option, so i can't vote... You just don't need that much power for hunting...

DM

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1. What are you shooting?
2. What are you shooting at?
3. How far are you shooting?

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I'd take the Zeiss over the VXIII... (perhaps the new VX3 would be a better Leupy choice). The Zeiss has better glass, an etched reticle and constant eye relief.

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Both are excellent glass. I have to factor in my recent experiences with customer service at Leupold. The VX III would be my choice.....those people are the best. I sent in two different scopes to Leupold, both of which had problems that were not problems of Leupolds, they were problems others created. In both cases Leupold went out of the way to make sure I was happy with their solution.

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I would chose the Zeiss just because I didn't like my Leupold VX-I. I know that scope is a ton better but if the offer the kind of quality of scope I got for $200 I just don't have faith in their higher end products being but soo good either. Although they do have a great warranty and great customer service.

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I would buy the Conquest. That one has an adjustable parallax as well.

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I have 4 Conquest 4.5-14's, and highly recommend them. I love them for hunting scopes.

Here is one of my Conquest 4.5-14's on my Ultimate Firearms BP Xpress muzzleloader.

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If I was going to spend that much on a scope I would look into the "best of the west" site and check out their scopes. I was talking to them down at the Eastern Sports Show las month and for $1600 you send them your rifle and ammo and they will set up a their quality scope with a ballistically matched turret so you can shoot out to 1000 yds holding dead on.

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Yeaaaa, that's just what we need! More folks "shooting" at (notice i didn't say "shooting") game animals at 500, 700 or 1,000 yards away!!

DM

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Leopold Cabela's have them for $449 (club member) free shipping and should be able to get $25 coupon
Redclub
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DM - Did I say anything about shooting at game? NO - but with practice, and lots of it, it is possible. Sure not many have the ability but it can be done effectively. Some people ya just can't please.

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Well you are going to pay $220 more for that Zeiss.. and that is over the VX3. You can get the VXIII for even cheaper. I can't say which one is better because I don't have personal experience with both. I do own the VX3 4.5-14 but I haven't got my rifle yet so I have not tested it too much yet. My guess is that you will love whichever one you get and you will have many years of success with either one. I wouldn't get too worked up over which one is better, from what I have read while doing my research is that they are very close. Zeiss may have better glass, Leupold may have better customer service.. you can spin your head for days, and then as soon as you think you have the one picked out, you hear something else that makes you second guess yourself. I say flip a coin.. you will be happy either way.

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THANKS for all the replies I'm goin to the gun shop and check them out side by side and hopefully pick one I currently have Leupolds on my 3 hunting rifles BUT I've been hearing good things about the Zeiss So I thought maybe I'll try one of them. I'll be using it on a 7mmRUM that I just picked up for a GREAT deal a Remington 700 XCR 3 years old shot4 boxes of shells out of it for $375.00 CASH! :)I think I got a good deal

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Wow, a 4.5-14X on a muzzleloader. Can't say I've ever seen that before. To each his own.

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For $1600 I can buy a very nice scope, afford to sight it in, load up alot of ammo and tune my rifle my self. Still have money left over.

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bronko - Did you exclude shooting at game? NO - and i've spent enough time on the shooting range and in the game fields to know that 99.9% of the folks shooting at animals shouldn't be shooting past 200 yards, no matter what gun they have in there hands... AND, 200 yards is a stretch for most of them!

DM

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+1 DM. Some folks I've seen couldn't hit a bull in the but with a handfull of rice.

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That's right!

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Sorry to offend you DM but not all of us are like that. Accurate long range shooting is a skill that has to be learned by extensive training and practice. There are way too many variables for the average Joe to comprehend. (traj, wind, barometric pressure, elevation etc.) The guy that buys a box of bullets and the brass is turning green form being in storage or only goest to the range, shoots one or two rounds and calls it 'good enough' IMOshouldn't even be trying shots at game at any distance. Heck, my relation is a certified NRA firearms instructor and does qualification for local police departments and even some ofpolice officers, during qualification, put their bullets into the ground 3 feet in front of the target at 12 yards. And they're here to protect us?! Sorry, but I'll carry my own protection.
I was giving the poster just one more option to consider as long as he was spending a lot of cash for a scope. Might as well get all the goodies with it.

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Regarding scopes and crosswinds, Any of you guys heard about the wind meter that this guy downloaded on his I phone? Crazy !
They say it actually works. I think he paid 3 bucks for it.
Rob

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I got the Leupold VX III 4.5-14x40 in matte finishwith ring and bases for $570.00 today

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Not quite,you still need to compensate for windage,which can be a huge factor at longer distances.


As for their scopes,I would much rather have a Conquest than a Huskemaw.

As for this poll,for big game hunting,I would choose a scope with a maximum of 10x.

Of course you still need to know the direction and speed all the way to the target,not just at the place that you are shooting from.The wind speed and direction can change significantly within even 500 yards.

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Nice pick, but did you get the VXIII or the VX3? If it is the VX3 with the rings and bases, you got a pretty darn good deal. That is what my VX3 cost me alone, and I think I paid $80 for my rings and bases..

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Regarding scopes and crosswinds, Any of you guys heard about the wind meter that this guy downloaded on his I phone? Crazy !
They say it actually works. I think he paid 3 bucks for it.

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It works off the sound of the wind. It's more for recreational use and good for approximate wind speeds. It’s better than guessing but, not as good as something like a Skymaster wind meter, etc.

The I-Phone application for the ballistic calculator is well worth the $10.00 I paid for it. It downloads weather information or you can enter in data if you have a wind meter. It additionally works as an inclinometer, compares up to eight different loads and graphs them, keeps range logs, and has a library of over 1,500 projectiles and 1,200 factory loads specs, etc.


You got a good deal on that scope, ring, and base combination.