Kimber or Glock
 

Looking at the Glock 20 or Kimber Eclipse II in 10mm. Glock is half the price, for occasional use is the kimber worth it? Kimber feels real nice, any comments? Glock is more reliable?

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Kimber. Good luck.

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I like Kimber. Glocks are good. Go handle both and see which comes to point of aim most naturally. They're both great guns, but in two different categories. The Kimber is probably going to require some break-in time, while the Glock will likely be resdy to run straight out of the box.

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Either you like Glocks or you hate them. Personally, I don't care for them. Kimber is a very good gun.

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Kimber.. They are more expensive, but well worth the money.

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Hey, it is your money so buy the one you like the best. Many people find the Glock 20 too big for their hands so make sure you handle both pistols. If it were for purely self defense, then I would say go for the Glock as long as it fit you.

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I hate commenting on This vs That, but here it goes!. Glock!, one reason to ME, I carry everyday, I started with a 1911, and yes, it gets heavy, for the last six years I've been carrying a Glock 30, much smaller, less weight, just as accurate and yes I feel more comfortable with a few extra rounds in the gun. But, like others have said, YOU need to go handle them to see what fitsYOU the best, YOU need to think of how the firearm will serve YOU, the old saying is true, what is left behind, does you no good when it is needed!. In a nutshell, all the popular manufactures make good reliable firearms, some need no work out of the box, some need a little work, some need alot, it aint pretty but,Glock just happens to be one of the ones that are good to go out of the box.

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Kimber WITHOUT QUESTION!!!! Glocks have inherent flaws, that MAY prove disastrous. You Glock lovers read this- http://www.thegunzone.com/glock/glock-kb-faq.html

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my experience with kimbers has not been good. ive seen a grand raptor, desert warrior, a gold cup, and gold match, i think this was the name, all jam, even with ball ammo. ive been to gun shops were id look at a kimber, factory new, box never even opened before, and the ONE magazine that was supposed to be there, wasnt. We've sent the guns back to the factory and the factory took several months and didnt even fix the guns. Now ive never shot a glock, but i held one at a gun show and man it felt good in the hands, almost like an extension of the arm. One gun that you might want to consider is a springfield xd. the other day my brother took 11 magazines and ran them thru the gun, all loaded with remington golden sabers. the only malfunction was one of the cartridges had a bad primer in it. excluding that one, there was 142 shots without a jam. also, 13+1 of 45 acp? its a good combination.

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First off, this is a comparison of apples and oranges. The only commonality between these two guns is that they are chambered in the same caliber. I like and own two Glocks, but I carry and use them every day. If you want a "using" gun, you should look hard at the Glock. If I wanted a gun for occasional carry and shooting, I would probably go with the Kimber.

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I have fired both and I prefer the Glock. I carry one every day for work and do rely on the Glock to save my life should the opportunity arise......

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I'd SURE like to know how you consider an 1911 only good for occasional shooting only. Don't go getting your dander up, thought we might have an intelligent discussion on the merits of each but not if you're going to get mad. Seems Glock owners are pretty touchy.

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I beleive he is statement to be not an everyday CCW, like I said befor, they get heavy!. As far as the K B, I can write and publish an article and post it on the web, say that the earth will stop existing in 45 years, back it up with a few B S statements and some will beleive it will come true!. The fact of the matter, any firearm with a unsupported chamber will show bad results with overloads, if you read through the article, thats were most mishaps come from, people reloading without paying attention. It can also happen to guns with supported chambers, I just finished rebuilding a 1911 that had the lug ripped off after the forth overload went through it. No Glock doesnt have bad ju-ju, it is a well designed firearm, people either need to learn how to reload or just run factory ammo through it, not blame the manufactor for their stupidity!.

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100% Agree. The article could apply to any firearm. It's like saying glock sucks because you can't exceed the maximum chamber pressure.

Tom

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Very well said.

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Last time I checked, this was still a free country, and I am allowed an opinion.

If you like 1911's and want to carry one, knock yourself out.

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Never said you wasn't entitled to your opinion, just would like to know why you think 1911s are good only for occasional shooting only. When I've seen examples of them with well over 100,000 rounds.

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And likewise there are examples of Glocks with that many rounds through them too.

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There have been some good points brought up in the above post and some are very true. A Glock is a service no non-sense pistol. (and yes they have had their inherence flaws). The Kimber Eclipse II is in a different league as far as comparision of the two? Depending on your taste and use? I will commend you on the caliber choice. I'm a 41Mag fan and the 10mm is as close as you can get in a auto version! The hand size is a big issue, so please handle both. Make sure you feel that the gun fits you and are comforable in your holding and stanance, especially if it is for self-defense?
Hope this helps?

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I never said that a Kimber 1911 wasn't a good gun or wouldn't run 100,000+ rounds, and for the record, I own Glocks, Sigs, H&Ks, Rugers, and Smiths. I am not "touchy" about any brand of gun, but I do have my own likes and dislikes. The 1911 platform just happens to be in the dislike/not my cup of tea catagory.

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Normally, I would say Glock, but the only complaints I ever heard about Glocks came from guys with 10mm weapons. If you just have to have the 10, go with the Kimber.

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The 10mm Automatic is potentially a very HOT round... My first experience with it was in a Colt Delta Elite...the recoil was brutal (and I carry a Colt Combat Commander .45 ACP with +P (185 grain Gold dots at 1150 ft/s) loads) but it was so accurate...

I like both the Glock 20 (the 27 is a great CCW but I can not imagine touching off full power stuff in it) and the Kimber pistols (especially the Raptors)...so it is a toss-up... I personally would choose the Glock (see below)

One thing I would add though...food for thought or so...the Glock 20 in 10mm Auto is the standard issue pistol for the Kentucky State Police...I have never heard anegative comment from any of those officers I personally know.

With 10mm ammo being hard to find, be careful with reloads...neither gun you mentioned fully supports the case heads at the feed ramp...Winchester offers a hot factory load with a 175 grain Silvertip hollow point that is awesome...be careful with some of the early factory loads...I believe Norma offered some with 200 grain HP at nearly 1400 fps...

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IMO it all comes down to which one you can shoot the best (which one fits you better). A $1300 Kimber may look nice but its worthless if you can't get on target quickly for a first, second and even third shot when you need it. If a Kimber didn't fit my hand, I'd much rather have a $200 Bersa Thunder .380 that did and I could empty a magazine into the target's center fast.
If you are getting the handgun just for punching paper than get whatever trips your trigger. If you're getting one to carry for defense, get one you can handle and shoot well and quick.

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I can't imagine needing an 10mm to stop charging paper targets!:D:D:D

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Ever since I had a 10mm, I have yet to see any charging paper targets in my nieghborhood.:D

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In the original post bluffhunter never said anything about targets. He was wondering about occasional use. And I did have a charging paper target a couple months ago. It grabbed a gust of wind and came right for me. Luckily I had my AR 15 at the ready with a full magazine. That target flew right by me but it was wounded pretty badly.

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I've owned both. My experience:

Glock - Ugly, plastic, DA trigger (not my favorite). Accurate enough. Reliable as a shovel.

Kimber - Pretty, Steel (mostly), SA trigger (quite nice actually). Very accurate. JAM-O-MATIC. Horrible service. Horribly overpriced. I'll never own another (pistol or rifle).

-nosualc

ps - For those of you who own Kimbers and think they're the best ever? Good for you! I'm happy for you, but that was not my experience.