I am curious about your rifle triggers. Do you...
 

have the triggers adjusted on the rifles you buy or do you leave them the way they are when you purchase them?

If so what lbs do you have them adjusted too?

Do you replace them?

If so what type of trigger do you have put on them?

Do you have all your rifle triggers adjusted to have the exact same lbs pull?

For those that have the triggers replaced or adjusted when or what caused you to have your triggers adjusted?

How much more accurately can you shoot the rifles that you have had the triggers adjusted on verses those that you do not?

I guess I am wondering if it is just me or do you all also believe trigger pull has enormous value in shooting accurately and doing so consistently?[/align]

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If my guns need a trigger job, i usually have my gunsmith do it and i have him set it at 2.5 to 3 lbs. but i hear that there are some really good drop in triggers for various models of guns.

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This topic strikes me funny...

I have read a few articles about trigger pull, etc..
I have a few friends that talk about trigger pull, etc...
I have a few friends that have had their triggers worked on to pull at a specific "ideal" pull...
I've tried a few guns that have had the trigger customized to a certain pull...

My take is, people read to much in my eyes, I just buy a gun and shoot the fricken' thing.
If I can hold 2", consistently, @ 100 yards it's good to me, real simple.

I just kill deer with my guns, I don't need to hold sub inch groups and have a big head like my friends.
However, when we get talkin' about deer harvest numbers I usually pull out my tags and rattle them around, git's em everytime!:D

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I shoot mainly savages with the accutrigger. It is easily user adjustable with an adjustment tool down to 3lbs. It is a great trigger and the main reason I choose savage rifles.

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I really didn't think that trigger pull was a big deal till I started to shoot for groups. I was shooting 2'' groups out of my ruger till I had a gunsmith move mine down to 3# and my groups dropped to under 3/4''. I like the trigger at about 3.5# I want to feel the trigger under my finger so I can shoot with gloves if needed.

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I had one rifle that had an awsome trigger, no creep and 2 lb pull, easy to shoot. My single shot is not so easy, I can shoot it, but damn its hard to do, thing feels like 7 lbs, havent put a scale on it yet, but thats what it feels like. I can get bullets to touch with it consecutively, but I have a lot of flyers. I think its a combo of factory ammo and trigger. I do want a trigger job on this gun just havent done it yet. I have had it four years and killed about 18 deer and hogs with it. All neck and head shots, none took a step, and havent wounded one. Its a .22 hornet
I guess what I am trying to say is you could give me any damn rifle and I will kill game effectively and consistently. :D and I rarely visit a range.

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i recently did my own. it's now at around a 2# pull with no regrets.

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2.5-3 pounds. Helps tremendously with offhand shooting.

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Maybe I strengthened my finger to super natural abilities by digging for all those boogers when I was a kid?!!!
That's why it never affected me pulling a heavier trigger.
Haha, sorry I had too!

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I don't have a rifle that hasn't had the trigger worked. I set them all from 2.5-4#. Anyone who says a heavy trigger won't affect the ability to shoot accurately has never really tried it. There is a reason my competition rifle had a trigger pull meazured in ounces.

My favorite trigger is the set trigger on my CZ453 Varmint -- ounces. Not practical for hunting, but fun to shoot.

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I like triggers to break at no more than 3-3.5# pull weight.So I adjust the ones that need it.

For a hunting rifle, I much prefer a good double-set trigger, if available. But I have no use for single-set triggers however, since they are prone to slip and discharge the gun too easily, when setting them under field conditions.

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Here is a picture of my before and after.

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It's part of standard procedure for me to rework triggers of any rifles I buy/trade for and havn't built myself. I wouldn't think of having ANY firearm that don't perform to it's utmost capability.

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IMO the action, scope, bedding and even the barrel are not as crucial to accuracy, as the trigger. The ammo is the only thing IMO that will have a greater affect on your groups.

also overtravel or "creep" is more important than weight IMO. I'd rather have a 6lb ,crisp trigger pull than a 3lb mushy trigger. Watch your finger as you pull the trigger, if the trigger moves before the hammer drops, you have too much creep in your trigger.

I have a rem 700 w/ a RIFLE BASIX drop in trigger. Cost about 90$ & took me 30 min to instal ,but a factory 700 trigger (preXPRO) can be user adjusted to be pretty good too. I also have 2 ACCUTRIGGER savages, set around 3lbs and break like glass. All very accurate "hunting" rifles.

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Life is too short to be shooting a crappy trigger. I adjust my own on remington 700's. Sakos don't need too much done to them. And I installed my own 10/22 trigger, and Marlin 1895. Only triggers I haven't been able to do anything with is Remington 7400's and browning gold sluggun. I like 2.5-3lb crisp trigger.

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About 3lbs for my hunting stuff. Big differences in consistency and group size.

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[quote]ORIGINAL: DeerandbearhoG

IMO the action, scope, bedding and even the barrel are not as crucial to accuracy, as the trigger. The ammo is the only thing IMO that will have a greater affect on your groups.

also overtravel or "creep" is more important than weight IMO. I'd rather have a 6lb ,crisp trigger pull than a 3lb mushy trigger. Watch your finger as you pull the trigger, if the trigger moves before the hammer drops, you have too much creep in your trigger.

My thoughts exactly X2

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I agree with deerandbearhog. I can stand a heavy triggera lot more than a creepy trigger. A good trigger is very helpful for longer range shooting. It has to do with the whole arguement about how accurate does your hunting rifle really need to be. Clearly a 2 moa shooter is fine for most people. I live in eastern nc, flat farm land here for as far as you can see. I limit my shots to 300 yds but 2 moa is not acceptable to me at that distance. Your 2 inch group is now 6 inches, but your 1 inch group is only 3". I need a good trigger hear.

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My M-77 that I bought in 1980 was adjusted to 2 1/2 pounds before I brought it home with me...
I adjust the Remington 700s myself that my family/buddies bring to me to set up, it's fairly simple...
Most of these I set at 3-3 1/2 pounds...

This is one of the advantages of a bolt action over a semi, the triggers can be tuned...

I hate a heavy trigger with creep, can't put up with it...

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All my triggers are modified to 3-3.5#. The creep level is equally as important. I have done the before and after comparison and the groupings are like night and day.A good trigger is essentialto good shooting form especially with a scope...hunting or competitive shooting.Why would you want to deal with a 6-8 lb trigger pull when you have the crosshairs on an animal andare dealing with high adrenalin, buck fever,etc? My point here is to reduce thevariables that are responsible for inconsistent shooting. As I speak I have a 7600 Rem in the shop to modify a creepy 7.5# trigger to 3.0#. I am certain when I do the after comparison I will shoot 1" groups at 100 yards vs the 2.5" group I shot last week. Either grouping will kill adeer but I want to reduce my variables to increase my success rate.

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For my varmint rifles I have the trigger worked to break at no more than 2#, with as little creep (which is the motion BEFORE the sear releases) and over-travel (which is any movement after the sear releases) as possible without compromising safety. My hunting rifles are both Savage's with the Accu-Trigger, set at about 2.5#.

If I were having a STRICTLY benchrest rifle built, I'd probably have a competition benchrest trigger set at 4 to 6 ounces. But such triggers are NOT safe on a rifle meant for any other purpose.

But yes, the trigger is very important to accurate shooting. A poor trigger can be compensated to some degree by the shooter who's used to it, but will never compare to a really well refined trigger setup.

Mike

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I always have my triggers adjusted. Mine are set between 2 & 2.5 lbs. A light crisp trigger with no creap will most definately help you shoot better.

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It's the single easiest thing to do to turn your rifle into a shooter. All of my hunting rifles are set to 3lbs.

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My Blasers have the best factory triggers, and I have never felt the need to make any adjustments to them. They are set at the factory at 2-2.5# and just feel great.

I recently bought a Sako Finnlite and adjusted it myself, and now it is set at about 2.5#. I would really like it a little lighter, but I won't go any lower for safety reasons.

My Encores have all been tuned by Mike Bellm, and all have triggers in the 1.5-2# range. The way Mike described them is when you think about pulling the trigger; you just did.

From the posts that I have read in this thread, many people don't put as much emphasis on their triggers as I do. I have bought and resold several guns just because I did not like their trigger. For me the trigger makes the gun.

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I like a light crisp trigger, I like Rifle Basix drop in triggers. Mine is set at 2 1/4 lb. I can't see where you can get the same groups with a 6 lb. vs a 2-3 lb. JMO.