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Tikka T3 Light in 7mm08
Was thinnking about buying a big cannon 300win mag, but also thinking about a short caliber as well. Thinking about ordering a Tikka in 7mm08 forafter xmas. My gun dealer only seems to have the Tikka in 270, 30-06, 270wsm, and 300wsm.
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RE: Tikka T3 Light in 7mm08
Havn't much info on the tikka but can darn sure tell you that a 7mm08 will NEVER be a bad decision.
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RE: Tikka T3 Light in 7mm08
Tikka's are great rifles. They have an excellent user adjustable trigger(2-4lbs), asturdy synthetic stock, scope rings are included, and the boltoperates smooth as silk. I forgot to add they also have an accuracy guarantee. The downsides are one size action for short & long actions(does not bother me) and the rifle utilizes some plastic or polymer, namely the magazine. If you like how the Tikka feels I don't think you will be disappointed.
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RE: Tikka T3 Light in 7mm08
I have the T3 lite in 7mm rem mag and it is SWEET!! I love the trigger on that thing. Zero creep and adjustable weight. Bolt works like butter. Shoulders nice and kicks like a mule!!!:D
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RE: Tikka T3 Light in 7mm08
I don't own a Tikka rifle, but I certainly will vouch for the 7-08. It's one sweet shooting, mild recoiling cartridge. Handloading only makes it sweeter......
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RE: Tikka T3 Light in 7mm08
Ditto on the 7-08. Most are accurate and recoil modest. And they can sure thump a whitetail. As for the Tikka, I was checking them out last week. I am definately getting one - just have to decide on the chambering. I already have two 7-08s.
I am thinking about either the 338 Federal or the 7mm WSM or 270 WSM. I already have the 325WSM so I don't want the 300WSM. Of course the 260 Rem is a sweetheart cartridge too. Damn - too many decisions. |
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I've got a 270 WSM Tikka T3 Lite and love it. My only beef is the cost of 270 WSM ammo. If I had to do it all over again I would get the same gun but in 30-06.
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RE: Tikka T3 Light in 7mm08
Go for the 25-06 It's got the power to lay any creature to rest in the US except for maybe moose and grizzly... Then again it's all about shot placement. It's got a mild kick about like a .270 only problem I have with it, is the ability to find ammunition for it. I live down the street of a gunshop so it isn't a problem for me but could be for others.
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RE: Tikka T3 Light in 7mm08
I have a Tikka T3 Lite in 30-06. Trash those factory mounts and get Talley's http://www.talleyrings.com/image_bank/pic461d473ff2a3e5.57339109.jpg
I topped mine off with a 2x7 Nikon Monarch. Total weight is 6.4 lbs. Sweet handling and accurate as all get out. Trigger is great. Get that '06 and you can hunt anything you want. Tons of ammo offerings. Remington has 21 loads available everything from 125's to 220's. I'm not knocking that 7mm-08 though. Plenty of offerings, but stay away from the dreaded short mags...... |
RE: Tikka T3 Light in 7mm08
already have an Winchester 30-06 or would consider have a 270 as well..
I was hoping to get it in 7mm or 7mm-08. |
RE: Tikka T3 Light in 7mm08
Since you already have the 30-06, then I would definitely get the 7mm-08. I have a 270 and 30-06, so there is a bit of overlap there. At one time I wanted a 7mm-08, 280, and 7mm Mag. If you shoot 140's in the 7mm-08, 150's in the 280, and 175's in the 7mmMag, the trajectory is the same. I believe the action is the same length on the short and long calibers in the tikka, so you dont save much on weight. |
RE: Tikka T3 Light in 7mm08
ORIGINAL: vabyrd I have a Tikka T3 Lite in 30-06. Trash those factory mounts and get Talley's http://www.talleyrings.com/image_bank/pic461d473ff2a3e5.57339109.jpg I topped mine off with a 2x7 Nikon Monarch. Total weight is 6.4 lbs. Sweet handling and accurate as all get out. Trigger is great. Get that '06 and you can hunt anything you want. Tons of ammo offerings. Remington has 21 loads available everything from 125's to 220's. I'm not knocking that 7mm-08 though. Plenty of offerings, but stay away from the dreaded short mags...... |
RE: Tikka T3 Light in 7mm08
ORIGINAL: VAhuntr ORIGINAL: vabyrd I have a Tikka T3 Lite in 30-06. Trash those factory mounts and get Talley's http://www.talleyrings.com/image_bank/pic461d473ff2a3e5.57339109.jpg I topped mine off with a 2x7 Nikon Monarch. Total weight is 6.4 lbs. Sweet handling and accurate as all get out. Trigger is great. Get that '06 and you can hunt anything you want. Tons of ammo offerings. Remington has 21 loads available everything from 125's to 220's. I'm not knocking that 7mm-08 though. Plenty of offerings, but stay away from the dreaded short mags...... Dang, its 4:41.....I got to get in the woods. |
RE: Tikka T3 Light in 7mm08
Try the 7-08...you WILL be smitten! Its a great little round that carries much more punch than its recoil would make you think. The 308 perfected it is.
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RE: Tikka T3 Light in 7mm08
vabyrd - obviously you've never have any experience with the short mags. The 270, 7mm, 300, and 325 are very accurate. Now I wouldn't go and sell my 300 Win Mag and get a 300 WSM. But if I didn't have either, I would probably get the 300 WSM.
I have a 325WSM that will consistantly punch 3 shot cloverleafs at 100 yds. And its shot several 5 shot groups well below 1" MOA. Also, everyone I know that owns a 270 WSM or a 300 WSM has nothing but praise for them. I don't know anyone with a 7mm WSM but I am sure it gets the same rave reviews. I don't want to start a pis*ing contest but the WSMs are good chamberings. Now the WSSMs - not so good. |
RE: Tikka T3 Light in 7mm08
ORIGINAL: bronko22000 vabyrd - obviously you've never have any experience with the short mags. The 270, 7mm, 300, and 325 are very accurate. Now I wouldn't go and sell my 300 Win Mag and get a 300 WSM. But if I didn't have either, I would probably get the 300 WSM. I have a 325WSM that will consistantly punch 3 shot cloverleafs at 100 yds. And its shot several 5 shot groups well below 1" MOA. Also, everyone I know that owns a 270 WSM or a 300 WSM has nothing but praise for them. I don't know anyone with a 7mm WSM but I am sure it gets the same rave reviews. I don't want to start a pis*ing contest but the WSMs are good chamberings. Now the WSSMs - not so good. |
RE: Tikka T3 Light in 7mm08
There isn't a cartridge out there that WONT shoot sub MOA. But there are plenty of GUNS that cant. These groups in a hunting rifle are substantially more than adequate. The short mag theory is to find something wrong with the existing offerings, and sell it as new and improved. Take a 140 grain .27 caliber bullet and make it go a little faster. Now shove that into a different case than a typical 270 add a magnum primer, and convince buyers its their ticket to better hunting success. The idea was a smaller package that has more punch. The guns weigh the same. Bullet does the same amount of damage. The gain is selling the same amount of brass, lead, and copper plus a tad more powder for 2-3 times the price of its counterpart, and having a monopoly on it. The buyer pays more for the same ammo, and buys the same gun, then to top it off, the magazine holds one (or two) less rounds. The "rave" reviews are guys who write articles about guns for companies they want to be in good graces with, on the off chance they will get something for free. Then comes along Ruger and T/C. New guns with new offerings. Its called a superadequacy. Ever notice when a food item says "New look, same great taste? Whats the point? So maybe my experience with short mags is only limited to messing with someone elses 7mmWSM. I really only had about 10 minutes of experience with it. It took two minutes to figure out that it was a load of bull, and eight minutes figure out how not to hurt the owners feelings. Marketing. You have to get them before they get you. But each to their own, if you really want something that will help make a successfull hunt, buy good boots. |
RE: Tikka T3 Light in 7mm08
ORIGINAL: VAhuntr ORIGINAL: bronko22000 vabyrd - obviously you've never have any experience with the short mags. The 270, 7mm, 300, and 325 are very accurate. Now I wouldn't go and sell my 300 Win Mag and get a 300 WSM. But if I didn't have either, I would probably get the 300 WSM. I have a 325WSM that will consistantly punch 3 shot cloverleafs at 100 yds. And its shot several 5 shot groups well below 1" MOA. Also, everyone I know that owns a 270 WSM or a 300 WSM has nothing but praise for them. I don't know anyone with a 7mm WSM but I am sure it gets the same rave reviews. I don't want to start a pis*ing contest but the WSMs are good chamberings. Now the WSSMs - not so good. None of the rifles get the advertised velocity. Many guys on this forum have posted about low cronograph numbers. |
RE: Tikka T3 Light in 7mm08
ORIGINAL: vabyrd There isn't a cartridge out there that WONT shoot sub MOA. But there are plenty of GUNS that cant. These groups in a hunting rifle are substantially more than adequate. The short mag theory is to find something wrong with the existing offerings, and sell it as new and improved. Take a 140 grain .27 caliber bullet and make it go a little faster. Now shove that into a different case than a typical 270 add a magnum primer, and convince buyers its their ticket to better hunting success. The idea was a smaller package that has more punch. The guns weigh the same. Bullet does the same amount of damage. The gain is selling the same amount of brass, lead, and copper plus a tad more powder for 2-3 times the price of its counterpart, and having a monopoly on it. The buyer pays more for the same ammo, and buys the same gun, then to top it off, the magazine holds one (or two) less rounds. The "rave" reviews are guys who write articles about guns for companies they want to be in good graces with, on the off chance they will get something for free. Then comes along Ruger and T/C. New guns with new offerings. Its called a superadequacy. Ever notice when a food item says "New look, same great taste? Whats the point? So maybe my experience with short mags is only limited to messing with someone elses 7mmWSM. I really only had about 10 minutes of experience with it. It took two minutes to figure out that it was a load of bull, and eight minutes figure out how not to hurt the owners feelings. Marketing. You have to get them before they get you. But each to their own, if you really want something that will help make a successfull hunt, buy good boots. IMO the .270 WSM does haveits place. It is the only WSM(that I'm aware of) that does not duplicate the performance of a current cartridge. It seems to fills the gapbetween the .270 Win and the .270 Weatherby. Whether or not this was an area that needed to be filled is a matter of opinion. |
RE: Tikka T3 Light in 7mm08
ORIGINAL: vabyrd ORIGINAL: VAhuntr ORIGINAL: bronko22000 vabyrd - obviously you've never have any experience with the short mags. The 270, 7mm, 300, and 325 are very accurate. Now I wouldn't go and sell my 300 Win Mag and get a 300 WSM. But if I didn't have either, I would probably get the 300 WSM. I have a 325WSM that will consistantly punch 3 shot cloverleafs at 100 yds. And its shot several 5 shot groups well below 1" MOA. Also, everyone I know that owns a 270 WSM or a 300 WSM has nothing but praise for them. I don't know anyone with a 7mm WSM but I am sure it gets the same rave reviews. I don't want to start a pis*ing contest but the WSMs are good chamberings. Now the WSSMs - not so good. None of the rifles get the advertised velocity. Many guys on this forum have posted about low cronograph numbers. |
RE: Tikka T3 Light in 7mm08
ORIGINAL: VAhuntr ORIGINAL: vabyrd There isn't a cartridge out there that WONT shoot sub MOA. But there are plenty of GUNS that cant. These groups in a hunting rifle are substantially more than adequate. The short mag theory is to find something wrong with the existing offerings, and sell it as new and improved. Take a 140 grain .27 caliber bullet and make it go a little faster. Now shove that into a different case than a typical 270 add a magnum primer, and convince buyers its their ticket to better hunting success. The idea was a smaller package that has more punch. The guns weigh the same. Bullet does the same amount of damage. The gain is selling the same amount of brass, lead, and copper plus a tad more powder for 2-3 times the price of its counterpart, and having a monopoly on it. The buyer pays more for the same ammo, and buys the same gun, then to top it off, the magazine holds one (or two) less rounds. The "rave" reviews are guys who write articles about guns for companies they want to be in good graces with, on the off chance they will get something for free. Then comes along Ruger and T/C. New guns with new offerings. Its called a superadequacy. Ever notice when a food item says "New look, same great taste? Whats the point? So maybe my experience with short mags is only limited to messing with someone elses 7mmWSM. I really only had about 10 minutes of experience with it. It took two minutes to figure out that it was a load of bull, and eight minutes figure out how not to hurt the owners feelings. Marketing. You have to get them before they get you. But each to their own, if you really want something that will help make a successfull hunt, buy good boots. IMO the .270 WSM does haveits place. It is the only WSM(that I'm aware of) that does not duplicate the performance of a current cartridge. It seems to fills the gapbetween the .270 Win and the .270 Weatherby. Whether or not this was an area that needed to be filled is a matter of opinion. Thats kinda my point, is there really a gap? |
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Another voice of limited experience heard from. There's an old adage that goes "Change is inevitable - Growth is optional". This is also true with cartridges. The shorter fatter cases are more efficient than the older longer designs. I am not saying the 270 Win, 300 Win Mag and many of the other old reliable chamberings are obsolete. They can kill just as quickly today as they did when they came out. But today with the fatter cases and more efficient powders you can get the same results (or close to it) in a shorter action, usually lighter rifle then you could earllier. These WSM chamberings, whether you agree or not, are good chamberings. And most will be here for years to come.
I love my .270 Win and it has done everything I have asked it over the past 35 years and I won't trade it in on a 270 WSM. But I may have a 270WSM setting along side it in my safe some day. Maybe some day soon. |
RE: Tikka T3 Light in 7mm08
ORIGINAL: vabyrd ORIGINAL: VAhuntr ORIGINAL: vabyrd There isn't a cartridge out there that WONT shoot sub MOA. But there are plenty of GUNS that cant. These groups in a hunting rifle are substantially more than adequate. The short mag theory is to find something wrong with the existing offerings, and sell it as new and improved. Take a 140 grain .27 caliber bullet and make it go a little faster. Now shove that into a different case than a typical 270 add a magnum primer, and convince buyers its their ticket to better hunting success. The idea was a smaller package that has more punch. The guns weigh the same. Bullet does the same amount of damage. The gain is selling the same amount of brass, lead, and copper plus a tad more powder for 2-3 times the price of its counterpart, and having a monopoly on it. The buyer pays more for the same ammo, and buys the same gun, then to top it off, the magazine holds one (or two) less rounds. The "rave" reviews are guys who write articles about guns for companies they want to be in good graces with, on the off chance they will get something for free. Then comes along Ruger and T/C. New guns with new offerings. Its called a superadequacy. Ever notice when a food item says "New look, same great taste? Whats the point? So maybe my experience with short mags is only limited to messing with someone elses 7mmWSM. I really only had about 10 minutes of experience with it. It took two minutes to figure out that it was a load of bull, and eight minutes figure out how not to hurt the owners feelings. Marketing. You have to get them before they get you. But each to their own, if you really want something that will help make a successfull hunt, buy good boots. IMO the .270 WSM does haveits place. It is the only WSM(that I'm aware of) that does not duplicate the performance of a current cartridge. It seems to fills the gapbetween the .270 Win and the .270 Weatherby. Whether or not this was an area that needed to be filled is a matter of opinion. Thats kinda my point, is there really a gap? Evidently a lot of people feel that there is enough gap to justifysome of the WSM's. A man could argue that the WSM's are not really that new and have actually been around quite some time. You only have to look at the .308 Win and the .30-06 Sprg. to see it was a similar concept. There are plenty of things in life that are not "needs". Does a person really need a 500 horsepower car/truck when a 180 hp car/truck will get them from point A to point B and then back? I suspect some feel the need for these things just as some feel the need for WSM's. |
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The way I feel about the wsms is this: yes,they are of better overall design compared to longer,skinnier cases,no,it's not worth it to trade if you already have a good rifle in that caliber,yes,they offer a good choice IF you don't already have a rifle and are looking for 1. As to the other short mags,imo they won't be around in 20-30 years,most likely a lot less (as far as chambering factory rifles).
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I agree totally stalkingbear. As for sticking around, I think the 300WSM will be here for a long time. Not so sure about the 325WSM. For some reason, Americans hate the 8mm bullet. A round in this never caliber seems to stick around (Remember the 8mm Rem Mag.? A great chambering that failed.) As for the 270 and 7mm WSMs, I think its a toss up. But I think one or the other will stick around.
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RE: Tikka T3 Light in 7mm08
ORIGINAL: VAhuntr ORIGINAL: vabyrd ORIGINAL: VAhuntr ORIGINAL: vabyrd There isn't a cartridge out there that WONT shoot sub MOA. But there are plenty of GUNS that cant. These groups in a hunting rifle are substantially more than adequate. The short mag theory is to find something wrong with the existing offerings, and sell it as new and improved. Take a 140 grain .27 caliber bullet and make it go a little faster. Now shove that into a different case than a typical 270 add a magnum primer, and convince buyers its their ticket to better hunting success. The idea was a smaller package that has more punch. The guns weigh the same. Bullet does the same amount of damage. The gain is selling the same amount of brass, lead, and copper plus a tad more powder for 2-3 times the price of its counterpart, and having a monopoly on it. The buyer pays more for the same ammo, and buys the same gun, then to top it off, the magazine holds one (or two) less rounds. The "rave" reviews are guys who write articles about guns for companies they want to be in good graces with, on the off chance they will get something for free. Then comes along Ruger and T/C. New guns with new offerings. Its called a superadequacy. Ever notice when a food item says "New look, same great taste? Whats the point? So maybe my experience with short mags is only limited to messing with someone elses 7mmWSM. I really only had about 10 minutes of experience with it. It took two minutes to figure out that it was a load of bull, and eight minutes figure out how not to hurt the owners feelings. Marketing. You have to get them before they get you. But each to their own, if you really want something that will help make a successfull hunt, buy good boots. IMO the .270 WSM does haveits place. It is the only WSM(that I'm aware of) that does not duplicate the performance of a current cartridge. It seems to fills the gapbetween the .270 Win and the .270 Weatherby. Whether or not this was an area that needed to be filled is a matter of opinion. Thats kinda my point, is there really a gap? Evidently a lot of people feel that there is enough gap to justifysome of the WSM's. A man could argue that the WSM's are not really that new and have actually been around quite some time. You only have to look at the .308 Win and the .30-06 Sprg. to see it was a similar concept. There are plenty of things in life that are not "needs". Does a person really need a 500 horsepower car/truck when a 180 hp car/truck will get them from point A to point B and then back? I suspect some feel the need for these things just as some feel the need for WSM's. The car analogy is not quite comparing apples to apples. The difference would be a 500 horsepower car and a 510 horsepower car. Is there an improvement? Only Jimmie Johnson could tell you the difference. I cant see where efficiency has anything to do with it. There is no gain in accuracy in the short mags. The gun has to be of a certain construction to handle the pressure, so the weigh is about the same. I still stand on marketing. If you understand marketing, you know that there are X amount of dollars that a hunter will spend. So by creating a buzz and getting buyers to feel they are losing out on something, you'll get them to spend money. The point is that they have not done anything better at getting 150 grains of lead to go 2,900 fps. But that's just me. Mr. VAHuntr, should you be packaging steaks right now??;) |
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I think it all boils down to choice. I see no problem at all either with the WSMs or the old faithfuls. Each person has to make a choice. Same as if a hunter should shoot a legal forkhorn buck or hold out for a mature buck. The choice is solely up to him.
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RE: Tikka T3 Light in 7mm08
ORIGINAL: vabyrd ORIGINAL: VAhuntr ORIGINAL: vabyrd ORIGINAL: VAhuntr ORIGINAL: vabyrd There isn't a cartridge out there that WONT shoot sub MOA. But there are plenty of GUNS that cant. These groups in a hunting rifle are substantially more than adequate. The short mag theory is to find something wrong with the existing offerings, and sell it as new and improved. Take a 140 grain .27 caliber bullet and make it go a little faster. Now shove that into a different case than a typical 270 add a magnum primer, and convince buyers its their ticket to better hunting success. The idea was a smaller package that has more punch. The guns weigh the same. Bullet does the same amount of damage. The gain is selling the same amount of brass, lead, and copper plus a tad more powder for 2-3 times the price of its counterpart, and having a monopoly on it. The buyer pays more for the same ammo, and buys the same gun, then to top it off, the magazine holds one (or two) less rounds. The "rave" reviews are guys who write articles about guns for companies they want to be in good graces with, on the off chance they will get something for free. Then comes along Ruger and T/C. New guns with new offerings. Its called a superadequacy. Ever notice when a food item says "New look, same great taste? Whats the point? So maybe my experience with short mags is only limited to messing with someone elses 7mmWSM. I really only had about 10 minutes of experience with it. It took two minutes to figure out that it was a load of bull, and eight minutes figure out how not to hurt the owners feelings. Marketing. You have to get them before they get you. But each to their own, if you really want something that will help make a successfull hunt, buy good boots. IMO the .270 WSM does haveits place. It is the only WSM(that I'm aware of) that does not duplicate the performance of a current cartridge. It seems to fills the gapbetween the .270 Win and the .270 Weatherby. Whether or not this was an area that needed to be filled is a matter of opinion. Thats kinda my point, is there really a gap? Evidently a lot of people feel that there is enough gap to justifysome of the WSM's. A man could argue that the WSM's are not really that new and have actually been around quite some time. You only have to look at the .308 Win and the .30-06 Sprg. to see it was a similar concept. There are plenty of things in life that are not "needs". Does a person really need a 500 horsepower car/truck when a 180 hp car/truck will get them from point A to point B and then back? I suspect some feel the need for these things just as some feel the need for WSM's. The car analogy is not quite comparing apples to apples. The difference would be a 500 horsepower car and a 510 horsepower car. Is there an improvement? Only Jimmie Johnson could tell you the difference. I cant see where efficiency has anything to do with it. There is no gain in accuracy in the short mags. The gun has to be of a certain construction to handle the pressure, so the weigh is about the same. I still stand on marketing. If you understand marketing, you know that there are X amount of dollars that a hunter will spend. So by creating a buzz and getting buyers to feel they are losing out on something, you'll get them to spend money. The point is that they have not done anything better at getting 150 grains of lead to go 2,900 fps. But that's just me. Mr. VAHuntr, should you be packaging steaks right now??;) I will admit that the car analogy is a bit extreme. Not packaging any steak right now as my feezer is still full from bow season and the first week of BP!;) |
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