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Quality weapons and chambers
Who makes top line hunting rifles? I know everyone has their preference on weapon manufacturer but I don't. Most of the brands I ever hear of is Browning, Remington, and Savage for a good deer rifle. I've been reading up on some guns, and I hear the Tikka T3 Lite is a very nice weapon of choice with any chamber you want... My Friend has a Remington 700 .270 and loves it, another friend has a .270WSM and loves it. I personally haven't shot anything other than a 30-06 and a 7mm mag, aside from military weapons. The 30-06 has just a bit too much power to my liking as far as recoil goes. (I'm a little guy weighing in at 140llb) The 7mm mag I thought was just overkill. I was really looking into 308, 25-06 or a 270 or the 270wsm
I'm only asking because I'm looking to spend about 1200$ on a good setup including the scope... P.S whats the difference between a Leupold and a Bushmaster, I honestly can't tell the difference when looking out of them. |
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I have a Remington Model 700 ADL synthetic with a blued barrel... in a .270
Im thinking it's a $300 rifle? Not too much. I love it and wouldnt trade it for anything, as it's my work horse.If I were to do it again, I might go with a Savage 110, get a trigger job (just lower it to 2lbs or so, my 700 only took 30min to do) and put a quality scope on it....so again say $400 for rifle and go with a Nikon Monarch for $480.00 in a 2.5x10 with 50mm objective and you still have enough money to take your wife out to a fancy dinner. |
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To my previous comment....If i were to buy a new rifle I that's the route I would go. Im currently looking to add barrels to my encore.
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My preferences for a new rifle would be CZ and Tikka with the possibility of a FN made Winchester model 70.
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Wouldnt mind having a Tikka myself...but arent they up there in price?
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Price really isn't the issue... I go to war in April so I'm buying and using w/e I wanted to have that I was never able to afford before I go to Iraq... Yeah, like I said before I heard Tikka was really good, just wanting some varied experiences people have had with their weapon and other models.
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i would suggest a Savage package with accutrigger. For about $400 you can get a good accurate rifle. I would go 7mm-08 if you are hunting deer. Great round, with less recoil than a .270 and just as good of performance.
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P.S whats the difference between a Leupold and a Bushmaster, I honestly can't tell the difference when looking out of them. I need something i know will take that weather day after day, and when i pull my rifle up for a shot at a brown bear, it needs to be clear, not fogged up. I need to know it hasn't changed POI from all the banging around, and Leupold has done all of that since the first one i bought in the 70's... After a few years, i even quit carrying a spare scope into camp... DM |
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since you used the word "quality", i'd have to go with Thompson Center Arms, Weatherby, Kimber, etc. pretty much all firearm manufacturers make a bottom of the barrel line of firearms that are more affordable and they make a top of the line firearm as well. with the brands i mentioned above, it is my opinion that their bottom line firearms are better than alot of the other companies top of the line firearms.
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For upper quality rifles,look at cooper if you can afford them. A step down from them is browning (my personal pick),sako,and a few others. Another option is to simply have a custom/semi custom rifle built just for you.
The 7mm08 is truly a cartridge that performs all out of proportion to it's size,while offering very mild recoil. The leupold is the brand to compare to in american scopes. I'm sure you mean bushnell and while they may offer top quality scopes (elite series),I swore off anything with bushnell on it because of crappy customer service several times over the years. |
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i've got a mouser rifle, i had multiple types of shells fitted into it, and finally came up with it being a 7x57 mouser. the bullets fit great and ejected great but it doesn;t shoot worth a crap. the bullets flip flop and i cant site it in/. any suggestions? or is the rifleing just wore out?
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Are you SURE it's a 7mmx57mm mauser???? It sounds like the bullets are extremely loose in bore.That COULD indicate you have a 7.92mmx57mm (8mm) mauser instead of a 7x57.The groove diameter of the 7x57 is .284 whereas the groove diameter of the 8x57 is .323. DO NOT assume you have ANY certain caliber until you know for sure.PLEASE for your sake,take it to someone knowledgeable or (even better) a gunsmith to be sure you know the correct cartridges for your rifle.
ORIGINAL: rbellinger59 i've got a mouser rifle, i had multiple types of shells fitted into it, and finally came up with it being a 7x57 mouser. the bullets fit great and ejected great but it doesn;t shoot worth a crap. the bullets flip flop and i cant site it in/. any suggestions? or is the rifleing just wore out? |
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ORIGINAL: stalkingbear Are you SURE it's a 7mmx57mm mauser???? It sounds like the bullets are extremely loose in bore.That COULD indicate you have a 7.92mmx57mm (8mm) mauser instead of a 7x57.The groove diameter of the 7x57 is .284 whereas the groove diameter of the 8x57 is .323. DO NOT assume you have ANY certain caliber until you know for sure.PLEASE for your sake,take it to someone knowledgeable or (even better) a gunsmith to be sure you know the correct cartridges for your rifle. ORIGINAL: rbellinger59 i've got a mouser rifle, i had multiple types of shells fitted into it, and finally came up with it being a 7x57 mouser. the bullets fit great and ejected great but it doesn;t shoot worth a crap. the bullets flip flop and i cant site it in/. any suggestions? or is the rifleing just wore out? |
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Id look into the 7-08 as well. Find a rifle that fits you that you like and pull the trigger.
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Well I went ahead and got a Tikka T3 Lite 25-06. Mainly because it doesn't overkill my needs. I compared the rifles I was looking at and this is what I come up with
The Remington 700 .270 - Very nice, smooth bolt action, lots of power versatile on virtually any game out there... Easy to find shells. It's a little on the heavy side, and very flat shooting weapon.. Good amount of kick but managable Magazine isn't removable Savage (not the accutrigger) - 30-06 -- It's nice, versatile, too much kick for me, every shot you have to retighten your scope rings... Tikka T3 lite 25-06 - Very light, good amount of kick but managable, nice and flat shooting, Versatile for my needs in White-tail and possibly elk, all the way down to varmant, smooth trigger and bolt action, Easy to clean as the magazine is removable. I'll mostly only use this gun on White tail, push comes to shove I'll get a 7mm mag if I want something bigger for Bear Use will mostly take place in the mountains in WV, back where my family lives. So I met my needs and I'm satisfied I can shoot coons, and deer, and will happy for now, untill I want a black bear. |
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Just set up my 30-06 Tikka T-3 Stainless with a Nikon Monarch 2 x 7. Thing weighs only 6.4 lbs. Im shooting Fed 165's Barnes TripleShox (wife freaked out about the lead thing, prego with a 4 year old, what are you gonna do?). All is can say is it shoots like a bad mother-shut-yo-mouth.... |
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ORIGINAL: no_skill Well I went ahead and got a Tikka T3 Lite 25-06. Mainly because it doesn't overkill my needs. I compared the rifles I was looking at and this is what I come up with The Remington 700 .270 - Very nice, smooth bolt action, lots of power versatile on virtually any game out there... Easy to find shells. It's a little on the heavy side, and very flat shooting weapon.. Good amount of kick but managable Magazine isn't removable Savage (not the accutrigger) - 30-06 -- It's nice, versatile, too much kick for me, every shot you have to retighten your scope rings... Tikka T3 lite 25-06 - Very light, good amount of kick but managable, nice and flat shooting, Versatile for my needs in White-tail and possibly elk, all the way down to varmant, smooth trigger and bolt action, Easy to clean as the magazine is removable. I'll mostly only use this gun on White tail, push comes to shove I'll get a 7mm mag if I want something bigger for Bear Use will mostly take place in the mountains in WV, back where my family lives. So I met my needs and I'm satisfied I can shoot coons, and deer, and will happy for now, untill I want a black bear. I a 30-06 makes you need to retighten your screwsafter every time you shoot it you have issues. Try some locktight. |
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good choice on the .25-06 cartridge. since i bought mine, i have never looked back.
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Well I guess I'm a little late with my post but I was also going to suggest a Tikka. I've never owned one but was looking at them the other night. I was impressed with the crisp trigger and the action. The bolt seems like sliding wet glass on glass. Even moving it slowly resulted in no drag. It was slicker than snot on a doorknob. And the price is decent. I was somewhat turned off by the polymer magazine. But then I thought, hey, I have pistols made with this stuff. Its pretty tough.
And the good part is I am lefty and it comes in a ton of chamberings. I really don't need another rifle but darn it, I just may have to get one of these. Guarranteed 3 shots in 1"? I hve rifles that will do that without the guarrantee. So this may be even better. I may just have to get me a 338 Federal in the T3 Lite Stainless. |
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ORIGINAL: stalkingbear For upper quality rifles,look at cooper if you can afford them. A step down from them is browning (my personal pick),sako,and a few others. Another option is to simply have a custom/semi custom rifle built just for you. The 7mm08 is truly a cartridge that performs all out of proportion to it's size,while offering very mild recoil. The leupold is the brand to compare to in american scopes. I'm sure you mean bushnell and while they may offer top quality scopes (elite series),I swore off anything with bushnell on it because of crappy customer service several times over the years. DM |
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WOW!!! How did you learn this?????? PLEASE let me know so that we can get a S&W style boycott going on them if it's true.
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Its not possible to talk 'top of the line' and $1200 complete. Top of the line factory bolt rifle HS Precision will set you back $2800 with no scope. From there on it will be a custom job.
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ORIGINAL: stalkingbear WOW!!! How did you learn this?????? PLEASE let me know so that we can get a S&W style boycott going on them if it's true. I'd say it was just about the number one topic at hunting sites durning election week... You must have been on another planet that week. :~) DM |
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