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redmag 10-28-2008 06:05 AM

Pistol for Protection While Hunting
 
After a recent incident while bowhunting for bears in Southern WV I am considering getting a handgun to carry as protection from bears. I am looking for something inexpensive just for that purpose only, can anyone recommend such a pistol? I know I will will need a carry permit to do so.

Jim

wis_bow_huntr 10-28-2008 07:00 AM

RE: Pistol for Protection While Hunting
 
If its not concealed you shouldnt need a carry permit. I too have bear issues as well and carry my Taurus 44 mag revolver. This is a medium frame and not overly heavy. When it comes to bears, I as well as many others will recomend not use anything smaller than a .44. A 357 might be ok but its a little on the iffy side.

bronko22000 10-28-2008 07:06 AM

RE: Pistol for Protection While Hunting
 
red I know the feeling. I have a I think more bear than deer where I hunt lately here in PA and have come face to face with a few carrying only 'stick and string'. And until last year you could not carry any firearms during bow season. I now carry a Steyr M40 (40 S&W) and feel a whole lot better. I don't know what your budget is but check out the local gun shops and look at the used handguns. I would suggest a revolver, 357 minimum with 4" barrel or if you're looking for a pistol, the 40 S&W as a minimum.
I know statistically it has been stated that 1 in 100 black bear will come at you. You may never meet that individual bear in your lifetime, or it may be the very first bear you see, and it is best to be prepared. Every bear except one I've ever seen, after detecting me, ran away like a scalded dog. One however was a huge boar and was really defiant. He did a face off with me and my full grown lab (on a leash) pacing back and forth on an old dirt road until me and the dog slowly backed off. For some reason on this hike I was carrying my S&W 29 in 44 mag with full house loads. Believe me, it was unholstered and at the ready. Forrtunately I didn't have to use it.

eldeguello 10-28-2008 07:28 AM

RE: Pistol for Protection While Hunting
 
What are the WV laws about this? Here in NY, there are some mighty big bears, but the State does not permit the carrying of any sort of firearm while bowhunting, period! Permit or no!

Pawildman 10-28-2008 09:22 AM

RE: Pistol for Protection While Hunting
 

ORIGINAL: bronko22000

red I know the feeling. I have a I think more bear than deer where I hunt lately here in PA and have come face to face with a few carrying only 'stick and string'. And until last year you could not carry any firearms during bow season. I now carry a Steyr M40 (40 S&W) and feel a whole lot better. I don't know what your budget is but check out the local gun shops and look at the used handguns. I would suggest a revolver, 357 minimum with 4" barrel or if you're looking for a pistol, the 40 S&W as a minimum.
I know statistically it has been stated that 1 in 100 black bear will come at you. You may never meet that individual bear in your lifetime, or it may be the very first bear you see, and it is best to be prepared. Every bear except one I've ever seen, after detecting me, ran away like a scalded dog. One however was a huge boar and was really defiant. He did a face off with me and my full grown lab (on a leash) pacing back and forth on an old dirt road until me and the dog slowly backed off. For some reason on this hike I was carrying my S&W 29 in 44 mag with full house loads. Believe me, it was unholstered and at the ready. Forrtunately I didn't have to use it.
Hey bronko.... You're gonna just have to quit carrying those bacon sandwiches in your backpack...............

Mr. Slim 10-28-2008 09:39 AM

RE: Pistol for Protection While Hunting
 
redmag, here in Pa. we are not allowed to carry a firearm while bow hunting. even with bears more plentiful up here. better check with the game commission in W. Va. before taking one into the woods. it might not be allowed. even with a protection permit.

redmag 10-28-2008 11:23 AM

RE: Pistol for Protection While Hunting
 
According to what I have been told I can have a gun with my bow as long as I have a carry permit. During some seasons I can have a pistol only if Ihave a DNR pistol permit and no need to have a carry permit.

Thanks for the replies.

Jim

bronko22000 10-28-2008 11:48 AM

RE: Pistol for Protection While Hunting
 
mr slim - check your game laws. it is now permitted as of last year.

soulless 10-28-2008 10:48 PM

RE: Pistol for Protection While Hunting
 

ORIGINAL: redmag

After a recent incident while bowhunting for bears in Southern WV I am considering getting a handgun to carry as protection from bears. I am looking for something inexpensive just for that purpose only, can anyone recommend such a pistol? I know I will will need a carry permit to do so.

Jim
i am from WI and according to the warden i spoke with and in the hunter's manual or whatever you call it, you can carry a hand gun AS LONG AS it's not concealed. BUT if you do plan on hunting with it, it has to be 4" for small games and 6" for big games. i carry my glock 27 40 SW with me all the time... Grab a thigh holster. I made my own and it rocks...

kodiakhuntmaster 10-29-2008 03:12 AM

RE: Pistol for Protection While Hunting
 
I carry a 45LC. Six shots of protection against whatever threatens you. I picked it over the .44 mag because I can shoot it better.

Steve863 10-29-2008 05:44 AM

RE: Pistol for Protection While Hunting
 
I think if one is afraid to go bowhunting without a gun, then one probably should not be bowhunting. If one is so afraid for life and limb then either stay home or hunt with gun only. That is how I see things here, anyway. The entire concept of hunting with a more primative type weapon is thrown out the window if you are also carrying a gun.



stalkingbear 10-29-2008 07:30 AM

RE: Pistol for Protection While Hunting
 
Personally,I wouldn't feel overly comfortable having any semiauto short of a desert eagle or a .460 rowland conversion for protection against large mammals such as bears IF i carried a handgun while hunting. Since i don't live in bear country and only get to hunt in bear country occaisionally,i don't worry much about it.

bronko22000 10-29-2008 01:35 PM

RE: Pistol for Protection While Hunting
 
Steve - No one said anything about being afraid!! The point in carrying is for self defense in bear country. If I am archery hunting deer in bear country and it is legal for me to carry a handgun, I will carry one solely for defense purposes. The bow and arrow would be my hunting weapon. There is no way, other than an extremely lucky brain shot with an arrow, to stop a charging bear with a bow. And even with a handgun, unless you are aware of a nearby bear and are ready for him, you are not going to stand a chance if he is close enough. And to fight off a bear (talking black bear), even a small one would be a tough proposition. Except for my previously mentioned incident, most bear I've encountered at close range did their best to put distance between me and them quickly. But there is always the potential to come face to face with that 1 in 100 and I aim to be ready for it.


nksmfamjp 10-29-2008 01:39 PM

RE: Pistol for Protection While Hunting
 
Blacck bears should scare, but I would consider 45LC Ruger loads as minimum for bear deturrent. You can be sure he will be mad, if he doesn't scare off!

redmag 10-29-2008 04:50 PM

RE: Pistol for Protection While Hunting
 
Steve,
I am not afraid of bears I have hunted them with bow 20+ yearsnow inCanada, Maine and WV. The point is if one decides to chomp on me on my way walking out of the mountains, (as one tried to attack a fellow hunter this past weekend), I hope to at least scare it off with the gun. Fortunate for my friend there was enough daylight left to shoot the bear with his bow at very close range (less than 5 yds.) as it was about to charge or so he thought after the bear had acted very aggressive toward him. The bear actually ran at him from 60 yds away and false charged and then laid it's ears back and came at him sideways from 5 yds. Most of the time they run off but in the future I will surely get down with enough daylight left to get back to my atv. Bears in that part of the country don't seem as fearful of people.

Jim

hillbillyjunkie 11-01-2008 09:29 PM

RE: Pistol for Protection While Hunting
 
If you value life, go with a B.F.R. in 45/70

boysda 11-02-2008 04:04 PM

RE: Pistol for Protection While Hunting
 
taurus tracker in 44 mag. it can handle the buffalo bore rounds, and should be sufficient for any nasty critter you'll run across in the lower 48.

Korak 11-02-2008 04:14 PM

RE: Pistol for Protection While Hunting
 
Something in the .500 Smith would definitely be a blackbear stopper.

gunnermhr 11-02-2008 06:57 PM

RE: Pistol for Protection While Hunting
 
Hi Bronko,

Where does it say you can carry any type of firearm for a backup during archery season? For sure you were not allowed in the past, even with a caryy permit.I'm definately not trying to start an argument because we have some bear problems where I hunt too.

Thanks


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