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SWThomas 10-30-2008 06:35 AM

RE: Walmart Remington 770
 
Get a 700. I was also interested in the 770 as I am with most anything that's new. I'm glad I did research.

stalkingbear 10-30-2008 11:36 AM

RE: Walmart Remington 770
 
So price is the ONLY thing that matters to you????? What about support or repair if you need it? I guess it wouldn't matter what they do,how they treat employees,wether or not they contribute to anti-hunting organizations or not,wether they buy from countries that use child slave labor-all that matters is price RIGHT? Wal-mart and others like it is 1 of the reasons why small shops are going out of business.

SWThomas 10-30-2008 07:22 PM

RE: Walmart Remington 770
 

ORIGINAL: stalkingbear

So price is the ONLY thing that matters to you????? What about support or repair if you need it? I guess it wouldn't matter what they do,how they treat employees,wether or not they contribute to anti-hunting organizations or not,wether they buy from countries that use child slave labor-all that matters is price RIGHT? Wal-mart and others like it is 1 of the reasons why small shops are going out of business.
It's called competition. If the small shops want to stay in business, they need to offer competitive prices and good customer service. Most people don't share the same mentality as you and are bargain shoppers. Especially when it comes to merchandise that can be had for several hundred dollars cheaper at one place compared to the other. I know I'm certainly not going to spend $200 more at a small shop when I can purchase the same firearm at Wal-Mart for $200 less just because it's a "Small Shop". Call it crapping on the little guy if you want. I call it smart shopping.

hometheaterman 10-30-2008 08:13 PM

RE: Walmart Remington 770
 

ORIGINAL: SWThomas


ORIGINAL: stalkingbear

So price is the ONLY thing that matters to you????? What about support or repair if you need it? I guess it wouldn't matter what they do,how they treat employees,wether or not they contribute to anti-hunting organizations or not,wether they buy from countries that use child slave labor-all that matters is price RIGHT? Wal-mart and others like it is 1 of the reasons why small shops are going out of business.
It's called competition. If the small shops want to stay in business, they need to offer competitive prices and good customer service. Most people don't share the same mentality as you and are bargain shoppers. Especially when it comes to merchandise that can be had for several hundred dollars cheaper at one place compared to the other. I know I'm certainly not going to spend $200 more at a small shop when I can purchase the same firearm at Wal-Mart for $200 less just because it's a "Small Shop". Call it crapping on the little guy if you want. I call it smart shopping.
Exactly how I feel. If a small shop can offer me the same price as Wal-Mart I have no problem buying from them however, I will not pay a ton more for a the exact same gun I can get at Wal-Mart for a fraction of the cost just because it's a small shop.


After the dealings I had with my local gun shop which the gun was more expensive from in the first place. Anyway, after having to deal with them when a gun wasn't shooting right and then again when a scope messed up and having them do nothing basically for the gun not shooting right just say it seemed fine to them and go shoot it some more. This was after a shell exploded in the chamber. They said they cleaned it and it seemed fine. I was afraid to shoot it for a while after that. IMO if they thought it needed to really be shot more they should have taken it and tested it or sent it back or whatever not let me shoot it and hope I don't get hurt. Not sure if it was a problem with the gun or the ammo was bad. The gun always has jammed way way more than it should.

Then with the scope they told me they would take care of it and send it off to Leupold. It finally and I mean finally came back way way after they said it would. They told me 2 weeks I think and it ended up being like 1-2 months. I can't remember if it was one or 2. It was a while anyway. So basically had I not gone and bought a Tasco from Wal-Mart I would have been without a scope during the majority of hunting season on my main hunting rifle. Then when it finally did come back they tried to charge me for shipping which they never mentioned to me before sending it in. I finally paid it to get my scope back after trying to get them to drop the fee to no avail. It was like $10 or something. Anyway, after asking to speak to the other owner whom I had given it to to send in I was told he wasn't there but he would say the same thing. I told them that was fine and that I'd come in and pay it but I felt since it took way longer than I was told and since I'd spent soo much on the gun and scope that I thought they should just handle it and that I'd pay it but I'd never buy from them again if I had to pay it. They told me that they didn't know how much I thought they made off of me but it wasn't a lot which I'm pretty sure is not true. I got an okay deal on this gun but the last shotgun I got flat out ripped off on because I wanted wood stock with a 3 1/2" version. I got a Remington 870 for around $350 and that was 2-3 years ago.

I then had the owner call me and when I told him what had happend and basically the same thing that I'd pay it but wouldn't come back and I got told something along the lines that he hopes I never do buy from them again and proceeded to get cussed at several times. THIS IS NOT GOOD CUSTOMER SERVICE. I repeat that is not good customer service. Honestly the no support I would have received from Wal-Mart is way way better than this. Not to mention Wal-Mart half the time just exchanges stuff if you have a problem so I may or may not have been waiting for a scope for a long period of time.

I told myself I wouldn't deal with them again after the shotgun experience but then they had the rifle I wanted for a okay price so I bought it and bought a scope from them at the same time. Both times I thought like you were saying hey you know it costs more now than it would elsewhere but it's probably worth it incase I ever have a problem or anything to be able to come to a gun smith and get their support. Well, I was wrong conisdering I basically just way way overpayed and got horrible support. I don't want to ever make that mistake again and that is why I plan to just buy from whomever is cheapest from now on.



BTW the shotgun I got that was $350 was like $280 or $299 or something at Wal-Mart. I can't remember the exact prices they just didn't have it in wood and the 3 1/2" version. I had to get the wood with the 3" version or the cammo with the 3 1/2". At the time I didn't want cammo. The cammo at the gun shop was even more than the wood when I checked on it at the gun shop and the cammo was way cheaper at Wal-Mart than the wood was from the gun shop.

stalkingbear 10-30-2008 11:39 PM

RE: Walmart Remington 770
 
Sorry you had the unfortunate experience of dealing with a RARE bad apple. Almost all of us are NOT like that! As we cannot compete with them that buys THOUSANDS at a time,our only/best feature is service. Also-any scope I've EVER sent back to leupold for any reason came back 2-2.5 weeks and they always paid return shipping. Just another point that that shop screwed you.

hometheaterman 10-31-2008 12:13 AM

RE: Walmart Remington 770
 
I know. I'm not sure if they charged me for them shipping it to Leupold or for Leupold shipping it back or what they were charging me for but it was something if it did even cost them that they should have covered imo. It just was a unpleasant experience and made me I guess sour on gun shops. Made me decide I'd get it wherever I could cheaper and not worry about helping out the local guys. I do know of a gun shop a few towns over that has decent prices and so far has been great to deal with. The only reason I didn't buy the last gun I got from them was that they had a waiting list with 8 or 9 people I forgot how many and another place had it instock so I just got it from them. Otherwise I would have bought it from this shop. I've bought lots of gun accessorys from them so far and like them.

I just don't know how the gunshop near me stays in business trying to rip people off like that. If when I worked at a auto repair shop for a bit where I had to deal with customers if I had called one cussing at him I would have been in major trouble. I guess you don't get in trouble if you own the place but still that imo is no way to treat a customer. They lost me as a customer over $10 which they had already made way more than that off of me and most likely would have made way way more than that off of me in the future had they just eatten the $10 shipping charge if it even cost them that. Oh well, it's their loss. That's basically why I don't care if I'm supporting a local gun shop or Wal-Mart though. I'd rather just save the money as I figure I won't get great support either way more than likely. It seems like it's less and less people everyday that actually care about their customer service.

If Wal-Mart ran local shops like this out of business it wouldn't bother me a bit. Infact it might actually be a good thing. I know there are good gun shops out there as I said I think I found one but the majority I've been too want to try to overcharge and rip you off. That's just what I've experience. I know not all are like that but there are a lot that are.


To be fair to Leupold though it was during hunting season my scope broke and part of that time was around Christmas but giving them a week off for Christmas it was still way way longer than expected. I think the gun shop might have told me a week but when I called Leupold they told me 2 or something like that so I figured it would be 2. Or maybe the gun shop told me 2 and Leupold 3 I can't remember exactly but I think it was the first one. It was way way way longer than either told me. I'm not saying that I like Leupold much either as to me a scope I paid that much for shouldn't have broken in 6 months.

Overall, I do not ever plan to deal with that gun shop again as they just are plain and simple a rip off when it comes to prices and service. At least that has been my experience.

I also don't know that I ever want to deal with Leupold again as I don't think the quality is up to par on that scope. Heck I honestly think the two $30 Tasco's I have. Well, I sold one and still have one but honestly they seem just as good. Have lasted longer and seem just as clear to me and buddies say they look better to them. Leupold may get a second chance from me I'm not sure yet but I was pretty unhappy with them too.

However, the gun shop was the biggest reason I had so many issues with everything.

Grasshopper13 10-31-2008 09:00 AM

RE: Walmart Remington 770
 
I know nothingof the model 770. I will tell you that when my little sister was shopping for a deer rifle, she chose the Remington model 710 "package" gun. She asked my opinion and I told her it had been recieving some bad reviews...but that I had never handled one. So, I went to the store and handled one with her. I wasn't impressed....she was impressed by the price. I told her she was a big girl and they were her dollars, she could spend them how she liked. She bought one ina .243 and we took it home. The action was rough, but the trigger wasn't as bad as I had expected. I took it to the range and sighted it in for, surprisingly, it shot very good. I was able to get less than a 1" group out of it at 100 yards from the bench with sandbags, with factory core lokt ammunition. She took it out last season and shot a nice little 4 point buck, her frst buck, and she's never looked back.

Here's what Icame up with as an opinion for the gun......it's fine if you are like her and only take it out of the caseone week out of the year to shoot. it will probably be just fine for several years at the rate she shoots it. She won't hand the gun down to anyone, but she will be abe to hunt with it for several years. Now the model 770 is what they replaced the 710 with and it appears to be much the same gun. So it comes down to this: How much are you going to shoot it? How important is it to you that the gun retain it's value or increase it as the years go by? How important is it to have the option of passing the gun down to one of your children?


If none of these things are an issue, and the bottom doallr is your main concern, you should just buy the remington 770.

GH

charlesdaly 10-31-2008 10:45 AM

RE: Walmart Remington 770
 
Don't let all the negative reviews turn anyone away from this rifle. I own a 770 in .270 and it shoots as well if not better groups than my buddy's 700 in .270. I was shooting factory federal ammo.(130 grain). You can buy whatever you want but for the money and a little extra to put on another scope if you would like.......you cannot beat it.

RugerM77.270 10-31-2008 11:56 AM

RE: Walmart Remington 770
 

ORIGINAL: charlesdaly

Don't let all the negative reviews turn anyone away from this rifle. I own a 770 in .270 and it shoots as well if not better groups than my buddy's 700 in .270. I was shooting factory federal ammo.(130 grain). You can buy whatever you want but for the money and a little extra to put on another scope if you would like.......you cannot beat it.
No one said it wouldn't shoot. What is being said is it won't last.

stalkingbear 10-31-2008 12:28 PM

RE: Walmart Remington 770
 
We are giving "reviews" based on hard experience of dealing with dozens of rifles(in my case) brought into send back to factory(which to my knowledge wal-mart won't do otherwise why would they bring them to me), brought to me for repair,or brought in in attempt to trade them off. The facts of the matter is that they are VERY poorly designed and will NOT last long at all. Just because you own ONE and havn't shot it enough for it to screw up YET don't over ride everybody else's more extensive experience with them. They WILL mess up on you,if not right away,usually within the first 200-300 rounds at most. I honestly havn't talked to anyone that didn't regret buying a 710/770 instead of a savage,model 700,mossberg or other rifle. Yes,they can be beat easily and for the same money by rifles that will last a lifetime such as the stevens model 200,the mossberg,nef's handi rifle,or even marlin model 336 lever actions 30-30s. I,along with the other posters are NOT being paid by anyone to reccomend better rifles. IF they were good rifles,I wouldn't have a thing against them and would carry them.




ORIGINAL: charlesdaly

Don't let all the negative reviews turn anyone away from this rifle. I own a 770 in .270 and it shoots as well if not better groups than my buddy's 700 in .270. I was shooting factory federal ammo.(130 grain). You can buy whatever you want but for the money and a little extra to put on another scope if you would like.......you cannot beat it.


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