NEED HELP, QUICK!!!
#1
NEED HELP, QUICK!!!
hey i have the opportunity to buy a used AR-15 in .308 winchester caliber, will a .308 be a decent caliber for coyotes, or should i just save up the extra coin to get a .243. My 18th birthday is saturday and i figured id buy myself a present. i jsut dont know, the .243 gets down to 55 grain and like 4900fps, while the .308 can only get down to like 150 grain, and at its fastest about 3000fps
#3
RE: NEED HELP, QUICK!!!
by a bit do you mean horror story, or not bad, plus i have a .30-06, am i gonna be gaining much accuracy/distance goin from a .30-06 browning bar to a .308 ar-15, cuz i wanna shoot out to 600yds atleast
#4
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: WY
Posts: 2,056
RE: NEED HELP, QUICK!!!
In 30 years of coyote hunting, I don't think I've ever seen a coyote standing still at 600 yards "at least" long enough to set up a shot on one. As well, at that range they present a target small enoughthatsome kind of rest or bipod is almost a requirement.
I've hunted coyoteswith a variety of calibers, but have found that the .223 is theMOST effective inMOST shooting situations.
Ispent a couple days at the range last week shooting E-silhouettes (iron maidens)at 600 yards with a .308. In spite of it's apparent lack ofvelocity and heavier bullets, it EASILY gets out that far, butI don'tintend tobe shooting coyotes that far out - ever.
I've hunted coyoteswith a variety of calibers, but have found that the .223 is theMOST effective inMOST shooting situations.
Ispent a couple days at the range last week shooting E-silhouettes (iron maidens)at 600 yards with a .308. In spite of it's apparent lack ofvelocity and heavier bullets, it EASILY gets out that far, butI don'tintend tobe shooting coyotes that far out - ever.
#5
RE: NEED HELP, QUICK!!!
i think you would be fine out to 600 for shooting coyotes another question.
i know .223s are set for 600 moa. they must be for the military.
You could always buy a .223 and add a 7.62 barrel then you have both.
Funny thing is i bought myself a ar when i turned 18 lol.
there fun to shoot even if you do not yote hunt with it there great for deer.
buy it shoot it just do not expect there to be a pelt left
i know .223s are set for 600 moa. they must be for the military.
You could always buy a .223 and add a 7.62 barrel then you have both.
Funny thing is i bought myself a ar when i turned 18 lol.
there fun to shoot even if you do not yote hunt with it there great for deer.
buy it shoot it just do not expect there to be a pelt left
#8
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: WY
Posts: 2,056
RE: NEED HELP, QUICK!!!
Over and over I've seen folks here eithersuggest its possibilityor ask about putting a 7.62mm (or .308/.260/.243) AR upper receiver on a5.56mm (.223) AR lower receiver.
Folks, let's think about this....
Will a .308 (.243, .260, etc.) fit into a .223 magazine?
Since the magazine well in a .223 AR lower receiver is EXPRESSLY designed for .223-length magazines, does it matter that the upper might be designed for .308-length cartridges? Try jamming an M14 or L1A1 magazine into the magazine well of your .223 AR-15 and you'll understand.
See where I'm going here? Neither the suggestion or the question pass the common-sense test.
I have yet to see a .308-length upper receiver that's designed for a .223-length lower reciever. The AR-15/M-16/M-4 has been adapted to cartridges such as the 7.62x39, the 6.8mm SPC, and the 9mm (all shorter or similar in length to the 5.56x45mm NATO), but a .308-length cartridge requires a .308-length (AR-10) lower reciever.
Folks, let's think about this....
Will a .308 (.243, .260, etc.) fit into a .223 magazine?
Since the magazine well in a .223 AR lower receiver is EXPRESSLY designed for .223-length magazines, does it matter that the upper might be designed for .308-length cartridges? Try jamming an M14 or L1A1 magazine into the magazine well of your .223 AR-15 and you'll understand.
See where I'm going here? Neither the suggestion or the question pass the common-sense test.
I have yet to see a .308-length upper receiver that's designed for a .223-length lower reciever. The AR-15/M-16/M-4 has been adapted to cartridges such as the 7.62x39, the 6.8mm SPC, and the 9mm (all shorter or similar in length to the 5.56x45mm NATO), but a .308-length cartridge requires a .308-length (AR-10) lower reciever.
#9
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: fort mcmurray alberta canada
Posts: 5,667
RE: NEED HELP, QUICK!!!
Over and over I've seen folks here eithersuggest its possibilityor ask about putting a 7.62mm (or .308/.260/.243) AR upper receiver on a5.56mm (.223) AR lower receiver.
Folks, let's think about this....
Will a .308 (.243, .260, etc.) fit into a .223 magazine?
Since the magazine well in a .223 AR lower receiver is EXPRESSLY designed for .223-length magazines, does it matter that the upper might be designed for .308-length cartridges? Try jamming an M14 or L1A1 magazine into the magazine well of your .223 AR-15 and you'll understand.
See where I'm going here? Neither the suggestion or the question pass the common-sense test.
Folks, let's think about this....
Will a .308 (.243, .260, etc.) fit into a .223 magazine?
Since the magazine well in a .223 AR lower receiver is EXPRESSLY designed for .223-length magazines, does it matter that the upper might be designed for .308-length cartridges? Try jamming an M14 or L1A1 magazine into the magazine well of your .223 AR-15 and you'll understand.
See where I'm going here? Neither the suggestion or the question pass the common-sense test.
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#10
RE: NEED HELP, QUICK!!!
sorry to brust your bubble but.
Question / Issue
Will a DPS 7.62x39 upper receiver fit my bushmaster xm15-es2? Will any compensator fit my ar-15?
Answer / Solution
A DPMS 7.62 X 39 upper will fit on the Bushmaster lower receiver. [/align]Different caliber AR-15 compensators use different thread sizes. The .223/5.56 compensators are 1/2" X 28 tpi. The 7.62/.308/6.8 SPC compensators are 5/8" X 24 tpi. The 9mm compensators are 1/2" X 36 tpi. [/align]
a 7.62x39 upper will fit on a .223 lower. i called bushmaster and asked a year ago as i was going to make the switch.
Question / Issue
Will a DPS 7.62x39 upper receiver fit my bushmaster xm15-es2? Will any compensator fit my ar-15?
Answer / Solution
A DPMS 7.62 X 39 upper will fit on the Bushmaster lower receiver. [/align]Different caliber AR-15 compensators use different thread sizes. The .223/5.56 compensators are 1/2" X 28 tpi. The 7.62/.308/6.8 SPC compensators are 5/8" X 24 tpi. The 9mm compensators are 1/2" X 36 tpi. [/align]
a 7.62x39 upper will fit on a .223 lower. i called bushmaster and asked a year ago as i was going to make the switch.
ORIGINAL: homers brother
Over and over I've seen folks here eithersuggest its possibilityor ask about putting a 7.62mm (or .308/.260/.243) AR upper receiver on a5.56mm (.223) AR lower receiver.
Folks, let's think about this....
Will a .308 (.243, .260, etc.) fit into a .223 magazine?
Since the magazine well in a .223 AR lower receiver is EXPRESSLY designed for .223-length magazines, does it matter that the upper might be designed for .308-length cartridges? Try jamming an M14 or L1A1 magazine into the magazine well of your .223 AR-15 and you'll understand.
See where I'm going here? Neither the suggestion or the question pass the common-sense test.
I have yet to see a .308-length upper receiver that's designed for a .223-length lower reciever. The AR-15/M-16/M-4 has been adapted to cartridges such as the 7.62x39, the 6.8mm SPC, and the 9mm (all shorter or similar in length to the 5.56x45mm NATO), but a .308-length cartridge requires a .308-length (AR-10) lower reciever.
Over and over I've seen folks here eithersuggest its possibilityor ask about putting a 7.62mm (or .308/.260/.243) AR upper receiver on a5.56mm (.223) AR lower receiver.
Folks, let's think about this....
Will a .308 (.243, .260, etc.) fit into a .223 magazine?
Since the magazine well in a .223 AR lower receiver is EXPRESSLY designed for .223-length magazines, does it matter that the upper might be designed for .308-length cartridges? Try jamming an M14 or L1A1 magazine into the magazine well of your .223 AR-15 and you'll understand.
See where I'm going here? Neither the suggestion or the question pass the common-sense test.
I have yet to see a .308-length upper receiver that's designed for a .223-length lower reciever. The AR-15/M-16/M-4 has been adapted to cartridges such as the 7.62x39, the 6.8mm SPC, and the 9mm (all shorter or similar in length to the 5.56x45mm NATO), but a .308-length cartridge requires a .308-length (AR-10) lower reciever.