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CAM2 07-09-2008 04:20 PM

AR15 uppers for deer?
 
i have a bushmaster AR15. and, i was thinking about getting a different upper that was chambered for a cartridge that would be feasible do use on deer. i would like to use it as a moderate range rainy day gunbecause of the matte finish and the chrome lined chambers and barrels. or, a stainless steel barrel. i know that there are other AR style (AR10) rifles chambered for the .308win. but, i would hope that i could find an upper for my AR cheaper than buying an entirely new rifle. of course, the .308win probably out performs any cartridge that can be chambered in astandard AR platform. again, i'm not looking for any long range performance anyway.

what chamberings would you recommend? what uppers? where to buy? have you heard of any issues from using different uppers on a standard AR15 lower? will they hold up to a cartridge such as the 450 bushmaster?

how well does the 450 bushmaster perform in a real world situation? i was on hornady's website comparing this cartridge to the 444 marlin. which i have with a 18.5" barrel. "according" to "their" ballistics the 450 bushmaster out performs the 444 marlin, slightly. plus, i checked some websites and the 450 ammo is an average of $6 a box cheaper than the 444 marlin. performance wise i may not gain much, but i would like to try something different. suggestions anyone?

bigbulls 07-09-2008 06:27 PM

RE: AR15 uppers for deer?
 
6.5mm Grendel http://www.alexanderarms.com/grendel.htm
6.8 SPC
450 Bushmaster
458 SOCOM
50 beowulf


jeepkid 07-09-2008 06:35 PM

RE: AR15 uppers for deer?
 
.243 WSSM
.25 WSSM

ipscshooter 07-10-2008 08:22 AM

RE: AR15 uppers for deer?
 
You're in Florida. The deer are small. The .223 is a legal caliber. Pick a good bullet. Take your time and place your shot right behind the shoulder and you'll have a dead deer...

CAM2 07-10-2008 10:40 AM

RE: AR15 uppers for deer?
 

ORIGINAL: ipscshooter

You're in Florida. The deer are small. The .223 is a legal caliber. Pick a good bullet. Take your time and place your shot right behind the shoulder and you'll have a dead deer...
personally i don't feel comfortable hunting deer with the .223. i know it can be done. i forgot to mention that i'll also be hunting hogs with the AR15 as well. i know people kill hogs (neck shots)with lesser cartridges than the .223. but, it's not for me.

out of curiosity, what bullet would you recommend for the .223?

ipscshooter 07-10-2008 01:06 PM

RE: AR15 uppers for deer?
 
Take a look at something like the Federal 60 gr. Nosler Partition, or similar bullets...

http://www.federalpremium.com/produc...le.aspx?id=210

cynikalHC 07-10-2008 02:03 PM

RE: AR15 uppers for deer?
 
I know you say that you are not comfortable shooting a deer with the AR, but my wife killed her first deer here in TX with an old .223 that my step dad actually killed his first deer with when he was young. If you just have the money burning a whole in your pocket then any of the above mentioned calibers should work just fine.

Seif5034 07-10-2008 02:19 PM

RE: AR15 uppers for deer?
 
I would (personally) keep the .223 bbl on there. The Federal 60 gr. Nosler Partition IS a great bullet to use and should most definately put a deer down. If you are really uneasy about it, I'd say go grab a .243 barrel. Actually if you don't like .223you might be better off getting a different rifle for deer hunting. check gunbroker.com or some other auction sites. Maybe even the huntingnet free classified ads

CAM2 07-10-2008 04:18 PM

RE: AR15 uppers for deer?
 

ORIGINAL: Seif5034

I would (personally) keep the .223 bbl on there. The Federal 60 gr. Nosler Partition IS a great bullet to use and should most definately put a deer down. If you are really uneasy about it, I'd say go grab a .243 barrel. Actually if you don't like .223you might be better off getting a different rifle for deer hunting. check gunbroker.com or some other auction sites. Maybe even the huntingnet free classified ads
i have plenty of other rifles, i just want something different. i like the AR15, i want to use it for rainy conditions. i may consider the .223, but i want to explore other options.

vabowhntr 07-10-2008 04:55 PM

RE: AR15 uppers for deer?
 
6.5 Grendel or 6.8SPC, but I would pick the Grendel if you reload. Otherwise, the 6.8 may be more available.

devil dog 07-10-2008 05:49 PM

RE: AR15 uppers for deer?
 
I know for a fact that a 60gr Nosler Partition will drop deer pretty regular, neck or hart/lung shot, tracking ranged from 20yds to 110yds. Ive been experimenting over the past four monthswith the Barnes Tripple Shock 70gr, found my load of 23.5gr of H-4895, Federal 205M primers through my DPMS varmint rifle 1&9 twistwill group 1/8" at 100yds, now if the bullet will perform like Barnes claims, that should be a deer killing round.

CAM2 07-10-2008 08:32 PM

RE: AR15 uppers for deer?
 

ORIGINAL: Ridge Runner

anything you can stuff down the magwell can be had, in the AR's I've used the 223 8,9,and 12 twist, 25 wssm, and the 458 socom of the three for all around deer/hog hunting the 25 wssm with a 110 gr. accubond is hard to beat, it doesn't hammer them like the 458 socom, but the 458 is a 150 yard max rifle.
in the 223 the 64 gr win powerpoint, the 55 gr trophy bonded and the 60 gr nosler partition are hard to beat. I've taken over 100 deer with the 223 and if and only if you take the "classic double lung on leg foreward shot", any 55 gr bullet leads to a 80 yard sprint to a pileup on our smallish deer here in wv.
ya may wanna look into a 6x45 (223 necked up to 6mm), the 6mm PPC, 25x39mm, if ya wanna get a bigger hammer, the 358/25wssm can be had, (exact ballistics as the 358 win.) the possibilities are almost endless.
RR
where can i find some complete uppers chambered for these catridges that you have mentioned? i've done some searching with little success. i guess i'm not looking in the right places.

jeepkid 07-11-2008 02:49 PM

RE: AR15 uppers for deer?
 
Also Olympic Arms for WSSM uppers.

2006HighSierra 07-20-2008 01:35 PM

RE: AR15 uppers for deer?
 
I'm hunting this season with a Ko-Tonics upper on a DPMS lower with Armalite trigger chambered in 6.8SPC shooting SSA loaded Sierra 110gr Prohunters. It's a very excellent all around rifle however for hunting I plan on getting a .458 SOCOM upper and perhaps the 6.5 Grendel. I know people use .223s where legal but that's too light for my taste.


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