Ryger M77MkII UL 30.06
 

I am in need of a new high mountain carry rifle for both a deer and elk hunt this fall. I retired the ABolt as it was jsut to pretty to be strapped to a pack frame most of it's life.

Ruger Model 77 MarkII Bolt Action All-Weather Ultralight Rifle 7976, 30-06 Springfield, 20", Black Synthetic Stock, Stainless Steel Finish
Stock # [SS70525] $588.00

RUGER & COMPANY INC Model 77 MarkII Bolt Action Ultralight Rifles

Ruger 30-06 Springfield Ultralight w/Stainless Barrel & Black Synthetic Sto

SPECIFICATIONS:
Mfg Item Num: 7976
Category: FIREARMS - RIFLES
Action :Bolt Action
Caliber :30-06 Springfield
Barrel Length :20"
Capacity :4 + 1
Trigger :Single Stage
Safety :Three Position
Length :40 3/4 "
Weight :6 1/2 lbs
Stock :Black Synthetic
Finish :Stainless Steel

Does anyone have one of these paticular rifle. If so what do you think of it? Iwill just have to own this pretty girl. Thanks!!

RE: Ryger M77MkII UL 30.06
 

"too pretty" I object to, but I hear ya wanting somethign lighter....

the newest Field n Stream tested a bunch of rifles for accuracy....the weatherby sum-moa won clearly, then I think savage did very well, worth a read....they mainly tested .308 and .30-06 as well.

sounds like a good setup for what you want. but may consider looking at the vanguard lineup, or a savage?

RE: Ryger M77MkII UL 30.06
 

Already own several HOWA's(Vangaurdsin a diffrent suit)they all shoot GREAT!!! but for some reason Ruger's always been my favorite. I have a HOWA UL mountain gun in 308 which will do what I want but its not stainless. :D

RE: Ryger M77MkII UL 30.06
 

I do not have a Ruger, but the weight for an Utralight Ruger is the same for a standard synthetic stocked Savage (both 6.5lbs). I do have a Savage 111FL in 30-06 that I backpack with everywhere and it has not let me down, very accurate too.
Wish yousuccess with whatever you get.

RE: Ryger M77MkII UL 30.06
 

Sounds like you have decided on the Ruger. I am in no way bashing the Ruger but you may want to consider the Savage 116FS. It is the same weight with a 22 inch barrel and accutrigger and lower cost. Lightweight rifles with a 20" barrel automatically make me look at the 308 since the ballistics are nearly identical in 20" tubes and depending on the manufacturer the 308 action may be lighter.

RE: Ryger M77MkII UL 30.06
 

It sounds to me like you need to get a stalker model in a-bolt.

RE: Ryger M77MkII UL 30.06
 

I have an Abolt stalker in 30-06 that is going to be getting replaced with this gun I like the way it shoots lighter bullets but it doesn't like the heavy 180 gr RN and 190 gr Bergers that I like for elk.

RE: Ryger M77MkII UL 30.06
 

I have the Ruger all weather ss in 270 WSM and love it. Some would say that the ss finish is kinda bright and needs to be bead blasted. If it doesn't have the new RC6 trigger, a trigger job or after market trigger would be the only thing needed. The Savages are accuate guns but I don't care for blind magazines and I do have a thing for Mauser actions, kind hard to improve upon perfection.

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Take a good look at the Kimber before you buy a new rifle. They are really light weight, and have a feel second to none for the price(not much more than a Ruger-but yes it costs more). Some hunters may also recommend the Tikkas, and the Tikka is a nice rifle. However I do not like the way the rifle handles. I have also handled the Ruger LW, and I also do not care for the feel of that rifle. Tom.

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What HEAD0001 said. Kimbers are very nice... and very light weight. Be careful on scope selection tho. On my Classic I put a Swaro AV 3-9 X36, and the bolt knob is very close to the eyepiece of the scope. It clears but not by much. FWIW also, the Montanas that I looked at have a blind magazine. Some folks (me included) don't like these.

RE: Ryger M77MkII UL 30.06
 

Some great advice to consider....

RE: Ryger M77MkII UL 30.06
 

If you get the Ruger than you are left with trying to accurize it. You may need to lighten the trigger and you will have to find the right load for it! Get a Tikka, already accurate, light weight, light trigger, and free floated. And did I mention Accurate and light weight? My M77 is a pretty gun and built like a tank but it needs some work to help the shooter out. :D

As for the Savage, I do not think that the quality is all that up to par with the other two. My cousin has a 110 and besides being super accurate, it is beginning to fall apart on him.

RE: Ryger M77MkII UL 30.06
 

Wish Tikka actually made a rifle I would buy....or consider buying....

RE: Ryger M77MkII UL 30.06
 

It sounds to me like the guy is set on a Ruger nothing wrong with that I like Rugers. Yes they sometimes take some work to make submoa sometimes they don't. The Tikkas are fine rifles actions smooth as glass super light and they don't fit me worth a lick but my Ruger is like a third arm. maybe that is why he wants a Ruger it just fits and he needs some reassurance. Get the Ruger if its what you want its build like as tough as arailroad tie and won't let you down if you do your part. The 30-06 is a great round you can't go wrong with.

RE: Ryger M77MkII UL 30.06
 

I can honestly say that I have never met a hunter or a shooter that is capabe of shooting a rifle at or below MOA in the high country. IMO too many people think thatif a rifle does not shoot under an inch group that the rifle has no value, and I actually believe that the mojority(not all) of the hunter's out there are not capable of shooting sub-MOA's off the bench.

In the high country accuracy s not king. Dependability, reliabilty, and "shootability" are king. Accuracy takes a back seat. Go with the rifle that handles the best for you after you have walked up a hillside, and then buy the highest quality you can afford. Tom.

RE: Ryger M77MkII UL 30.06
 

While I agree with most of what you said. If you have a rifle capable of half-moa accuracy and are taking a 300 yard shot your group would then be 1-1/2" theoretically. If you're starting with a 1-1/2 moa rifle and take that same 300 yard shot your group would be 4-1/2". Add in the likelyhood for human error in the high country and that shot could become a long tracking job. I would personally like to have a rifle that is capable of the tighter group so my mistake is more likely to hit in the kill zone. Just my $.02

RE: Ryger M77MkII UL 30.06
 

Idunno you are absolutely correct in your post. The problem is that most people are just not capable of taking advantage of the accuracy of a rifle in any situation. As you point out there are exceptions to the rule. But I will take that theoretical 4-1/2 group at 300 yards in the high country. Tom.

RE: Ryger M77MkII UL 30.06
 

I appreciate all of your input. I can only go off of my own experience with rifles. Rugers and Mauser'sjust seem to do it for me. I have never been a huge Savage fan (except for the 99) they are probably good rifles. I am not a big Remmy fan either, don't get me wrong I own several of those also. (Not too many brands I don't own in some way shape or form) All the others Tikka, Sako, Kimber are all fine rifles. Factory rifles or custom (which I have also) they can all out shoot me anyday of the week. I need a good solid featherweight gun that will will go bang when I touch it off and kill a deer or an elkat 200 yards. (my limitations on myself)

RE: Ryger M77MkII UL 30.06
 

I can think of a few rifles I would rather use on elk then a 6lb Ruger or a Savage.