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I am going to get a ruger no1 rifle and I have narrowed it down to either the 300H&H or the 375H&H. I am from canada and I will be using this rifle for everything from deer up to moose, bear and possibly woodland buffalo but the majority of the time it will be deer.
I will be hunting in all terrains including heavy bush, open fields and mountains.
The 300 will be better for deer and longer ranges but mightnot beas effective on moose or buffalo.
The 375 will be better for the bigger animals and in the brush butit will have more weight and recoil.
I will be handloading both calibers.

For those of you that haveexperience with these caliberswhich would you recomend?

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The 375 is a big gun. I would go with the 300 if it has got to be one of those two. But the truth is you don't need anything to big for moose and buff, theyare huge in size but many say easier to kill than elk. A 300 win. mag. or the like would suit you just fine, but if its just that you want a big gun for bragging rights, get one.

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I believe the Ruger #1's are super... to look at and too shoot. GREAT CHOICE. If you are looking at the 1-H, I'd recommend the stainless / laminate version in .375 H&H. That would provide a little better weather resistance than the walnut / blue versions do. It's going to weigh around 8.5 lbs unscoped. You may also want to consider the new .375 Ruger. Check out gunbroker. The last time I was there they had about 3 pages of #1's.

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Well, if you're looking for a #1 in .300 H&H, you're either gonna have a long search with an expensive end result or gonn ahve to wait a year or two til a small run of 250 is shipped as part of the craig Bonnington series. The ones already out there are few and far between, highly sought after and will be a weee bit pricey (think $2k+ for a minimum). That said, a .30-06 can easily have the chamber re-cut for the fantastic .300 H&H cartridge. Gonna do that to mine.
The .375 H&H model is quite available and should be easy to locate or order. Either will be fine. remember these have been widely used in Africa for all those big creatures so a North American anything is gonna be quite do-able with either as well.
Something to consider is ammo availability. The .300 H&H isn't nearly a widely found compared to the .375 H&H ammo. If you're handloading, this is a moot point.

Myself, I'd go with the .300 H&H just cause it's classic and different.

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Thanks for the replys. I think I will get the 300H&H. I plan on getting a used rifle and rebarreling it.
The 300 will probably be easier to shoot accuratly and be lighter in weight for when I go sheep hunting.

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While I'm seeing more and more 300H&H ammo, I think the .375H&H is much more popular and would be more available, and perhaps even cheaper...

I'd get the .375

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I would go with a .375 H&H Mag. You can always download your .375 H&H Mag. loads. Good luck.

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After those last two replys I am back to either or.
I am not sure what I will choose.
Does anybody here hunt with a 375H&H?
I am curious is the recoil pretty rough or is it managable with some practice?
I will probably load 260grain accubonds if I go with the 375.

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The recoil is not bad at all. I bought a CZ 375 H&H, and was a little worried about the recoil. It was not a problem at all. My 300 utra mag had a ton more recoil until a put a break on it. I am very recoil sensitive and I was amazed how little the felt recoil is on the 375H&H. I have only shot it at a 100 yards so far but I'm shooting groups as good or better than my .270,.243, or any other rifle I own. I haven't hunted with it yet and the only other thing I'm worried about is the extra weight carrying it around in the mountains. I'm sure the extra weight is why it doesn't kick that bad. Mine weighs around 11 lbs with scope and all. You might want to check into the weight of the Ruger, I think the weight iscloser to the 7 1/2 lbs mark, which could in crease the recoil.Good luck and post up a pick of what you choose.

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I say 375 if and only if your going to be doing much bigger bear hunting.Seems like an awful lot of fire powerhunting deer with a 375 H&H loaded with 260 gr bullets. If deer will be the main thing like you said seems to me the 300 would be the way to go unless you just want a 375H&H then I would say go for it.

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In alberta they cancelled the grizzly hunt a couple years ago but when it is back I will be applying for my tag.

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There was a comment that there are alot of ruger no1 rifles for sale on gunbroker.
Does anybody know what the procedure is for somebody from canada buying a rifle off of gunbroker.
How would I get the rifle home?

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My .340 kicks less than my .300 win mag. I was worried that when I got my .340 that the kick was going to be like WOW! site in and only shoot when need to, nothing of the sort, you know its a magnum when it goes off but totally manageable. When I first got it I had to shoot it, took it out on the farm and fired it off, unscoped....which at 8lbs....i figured would really kick, it was nothing of the sort....

I think most .375's will come with some weight, anything over 8lbs along with a nice pad wont do much. Also the .340 I believe has more case capacity than the .375H&H which I believe weatherby oringially wildcatted from....I've shot 250gr from it, so thats fairly close to 260gr from your .375.....

This experience really has made me comfortable about recoil.....I wouldn't hesitate a chance to shoot anything up to a .458lott and am really not worried about the kick from anythign on up to that cartridge.

I think if a .300 win mag doesnt upset you much....I wouldn't hesitate to get a .375H&H.

I've read numerous articles on the .375 and all state how a .375 bullet will cause less meat damage than a .270....

I think the 270gr bullet I'd pick for most not big/dangerous game situations....for the flatter trajectory, though youre saying 260gr.....if you handload, do what you please, but I've noticed that the 270's and 300's slow down quite a bit more slowly than the ligther loads, 235-260, so may consier 270s.....for tthis reason,

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I have heard the 375 is easier to shoot than a 338 because it is more of a push than a punch.
I am surprised the .340 doesnt kick that much. Those weatherby mags are deadly. My brother just got a mark V
in 300 weatherby mag which weighs 8lbsand handles really well.

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I agree that the big bores tend to be a big shove/push, rather than a sharp kick....
Perhaps thats the case with my 300 win mag vs my .340 both kick though.

everyone I've ever talked to who has shot a .378 wby said it was the worse kicker ever....I don't see wby manufacturing new rifles in that cartridge anymore either.

The weatherbys come with a pachmayr pad which I'm sure helps.

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PS, you know you were asking about a 300 vs a 375, I think a .338 might be the perfect round for you....

I think any .338 would be awesome....whether its the WM, RUM, or WBY....get the .340wby and you can rub it in your bro that its better than his .300 wby....haha.

Still a little skeptical of the .338 RUM, though I like the increased case capacity compared to the .338 win mag, and the fact that its beltless.....not sure if its here to stay is the only thing....?

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IF you have a No. 1 in .300 H&H available, buy it NOW!! The .375 is still in production, and many were made, so it won't be as hard to get one. But the .300 H&H is pretty rare!

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I believe you'll need to contact your government to determine what is required to import a firearm into Canada. There are probably some Canadian gun dealers that can handle imports.

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I tried to do a little research for this. Because you have to comply both both U.S. and Canadain laws, You must have your PAL. I assume you already have this, thats about it on your side besides registration, but before you bid on or purchase, you must make arrangments with a U.S. exporter. There are a couple listed on gunbroker. The exporter will have all the info needed to fullfill your purchase.

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I have to agree that a 300RUM kicks harder than a 375H&H but to say a 375H&H is easly managable? The 250 grain bullets have less recoil than a 300 grain bullet but flat out the 300 grain bullet just hurts. All that been said and if you really wanta 375H&H get it. Put a break on it and load it to the max. Should be able to stop a freight train. And it's kinda cool going to the range with something that has a hole in the end ofthe barrel that big.

If you're looking for overall useability the 300 Win Mag is hard to beat. It's not my favorite 300 but is very versitle. I guess the whole thing is kinda hard to answer because there is no real relation between the 300 mags and a 375H&H. The 375 is great for heavy thick skinned animals and will kill about anything you point it at. The 300 mags are great long range cartriges and will kill anything in North America. Just depends what 300 you would go with on how far it will efffectivly kill.

The answer is buy one each;)

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JohnWayne : Contact Questar.com. I have used them to import firearms from the U/S. and they are great people to deal with. It will cost you in the area of $300.00, but they will broker the whole deal for you.

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I said it once, .338 is sounding like a great compromise.

I've now become a huge fan of the .338's.....especially the faster ones....they combine the flat down range ability with the big bullet dangerous game stopper. hard to be a rifle that can do all of that.

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The .338 is indeed a good caliber, regardless of which cartridge case you shoot it out of.

However, here we SEEM (don't know yet!!) to have a situation in which the poster can get a No. 1 in .300 H&H Magnum, as well as any of the easily available other chamberings, such as the .338, .375 H&H, etc. etc.

IF this is indeed the case, he should get the .300 H&H. It will do anything the majority of the other .300 magnums will do, and in addition, it is an unusual/rare chambering. He can buy any of the other, standard chamberings later, if he still wants something in addition to the .300 H&H.

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The 300H&H "properly loaded" will flatten any animial in NA... and will do so with less recoil than a 338 or 375...

I just don't understand the idea of buying a 375 and then shooting light weight bullets in it for less recoil... A 300 H&H with 200NP's in it will out perform (on big game) a 375 with any std. 260 grain bullet at any range...

I would have no fear of any bear with the 300H&H loaded with the 200 NP's, and a moose or a bison wouldn't stand a chance either...

DM

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I could always download the 375H&H to 375JDJ velocities. The 375JDJ seems to be a pretty popular deer cartridge.