Would A Weatherby be A Weatherby With A Detachable Magazine??
 

i was at my gun shop today and some guy had a 300 WSM SUB MOA Blued and he was asking the guy who was working there if he could turn his weatherby to a a dtachable magazine insted of Hinged Floor Plate and i said to the guy Would a Weatherby Be A Weatherby With Detachable Mag?? He said I Dont have a clue, It's My 8 year old sons new gun..... So For Everyone Out thereWould A WeatherbyBe AWeatherby With a Detachable Mag??

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Well, sincethe only "sub MOA"line of riflesthat Weatherbysells is the Weatherby vanguard it isn't a Weatherby to begin with.

It's a Howa 1500with the Weatherby name stamped on it. A much better built rifle IMO.

And this guy bought an 8 year old a 300 magnum?What a genius,get him good and scared of recoil right off the bat. Unless this is one huge 8 year old, or the extremely rare exception to the rule,the rifle is going to be waaaaaay to long for him, be too heavy, generate excessive recoil, and excessive muzzle blast.

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Ditto.....

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Well, considering that many adults are so "sold" on the necessity of burning lots of powder, it's no wonder the marketing craze would eventually reach the youth market. When's Remington going to chamber that little Model 7 Youth rifle in something like .300 WSM? My daughter's barely able to carry her teddy bear and blanket at the same time, but I'd really like to get her up and shooting something soonthat'll"KNOCK DOWN"a grizzly bear at 800 yards.

LIKE FATHER, LIKE SON (or daughter)

Now that I'm done rolling my eyes, and all sarcasm aside, I think we're getting close now to the point where many of us have a lot more money than we have common sense. Considering that our predecessors did quite well hunting everything on this continent with boring calibers like .30-40, .30-06, .270, etc., is there REALLY a need for all of these magnums?Yeah, I kind of have an axe to grind here. I see more and moreguys on the range lately who spent crazy coin to get the latest whiz-bang magnum and optics,yet complain about the accuracy of their new beast when it's clear from watching them (all the shooting basics) that they're TERRIFIED of their new rig. Rapid breathing, jerked triggers, evencaught one guy I was trying to coach close his eyes anticipating the punch he was about to receive. So, aside from the obvious benefits, there IS some peripheral "entertainment value" in my range time these days! :D

And as much as I hate the thought of this marketing craze hittingourhunting future, it's probably inevitable that theboneheads among us will go out and equip theirpre-teens with the same hyped-up stuff the adultshave. Maybe my daughter's just fortunate that she'll cut her teeth on a .22, .223, and .243 - IN ORDER and WHEN SHE'S READY?

Back on topic though - If someone has reason enough to modify their Weatherby for a detachable magazine, that's their choice. It's THEIR rifle, even if it IS a Weatherby (like, I'm going to swoon atthe sight ofone of Roy's babies?) If it were somethingwith some known collector's value I'd probably make sure he at least knew that first, but I've given up wondering why people do some of the things they do, and it'sreally none of my business in the first place if it doesn't affect my safety.

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What would the addition of a magazine dictate whether a rifle was a Weatherby or not? I am sure if they came out with a good system then they would happily sell it instead of the POS that they now use as bottom metal .Better manufacturers use magazines maybe Weatherby can keep in step.

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I would say that if it's made by Weatherby, or for Weatherby, then it's a Weatherby. A Remington M700 action that has been fully accurized and customized is still a Remington. If the guy has a custom detachable magazine fitted it's still a Weatherby.

Mike

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I think you've got proof right there that the guy should not have passed the "sanity" test for owning a firearm... All these new magnums are a bit silly for adults in about 99.98% of hunting situations. To buy one for an 8 year old is absolutely, positively moronic...

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Yep! Giving an 8 year old a magnum rifle is a GREAT way to ensure that the child quickly becomes an excellent rifleman and will look forward to a lifetime of shooting enjoyment! [&o][:@] And he'll probably not understand why, after the first time out, the kid doesn't really want to go shoot his new rifle anymore. Bill Engvall is right, if that guy would have had his "I'm Stupid" sign, this situation would have been avoided altogether.

Mike

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I think this guy may have been making a joke or saying something to the affect that it's my new gun and will eventually be my 8yolds gun.....because really no 8yo can shoot a .300 magnum remotely well I would argue.

Not really sure why weatherby's even have a floorplate....? It's easier to just unload them from the top IMO than to open that floorplate with the spring etc...coming out, by the time you get that all back in place you could have emptied the gun already from the top.

A detachable mag isn't really a deal breaker to me.

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salukipv1.... Always interesetng to read your replies......

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Thanks.

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I don't believe Weatherby has their own factory so they have all of their guns made to their specification by other manufacturers thus if Weatherby puts their name on it, it's a Weatherby. If you modify it, it's a modified Weatherby.

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The only Weatherby I own has a detachable magazine... its a new Mark XXII.....

and while it says weatherby.... its really just an Anschutz....

so my answer would be no.

Well, I'd like to look at it this way :

You have a Ford then you replace the engine with an engine from Volkswagen, what do you have now ? Still a Ford ? If so then two years later you replace the chassis on your Ford with a Volkswagen chassis, as per above you still have a Ford. I DON'T THINK SO !:bash:

Anyway, I use my Weatherby professionally in Africa, it's a Mark V made for Weatherby in Germany by Sauer and I would never modify the rifle if it could severely affect feeding (changing from fixed mag. to detachable could) mainly because I have found that when I need that follow-up shot I need it RIGHT NOW ! for two reasons, 1. I'd like to make it home to my wife for dinner and 2. That Cape buffalo who's running at me is probably pretty pis... and after my hide.

Not that I'm afraid of Capes but my wife is quite another matter and further more an encounter with either my angry wife or a raging Cape Buffalo would absolutely be bad for business :sheep:

No 8 year old should be shooting a .300 WSM, so I also think it was a misunderstanding; to say that the rifle is 8 years old.

All my bolt guns have a detachable box magazine , or I don't buy it.

Kinda surprises me about you actually, I wouldn't have thought you'd be DM or nothing...

Personally, unless it's a P-dog rig, I don't plan on taking more than 5shots, so what do I care if it's a DM or not? Yes, when I'm doing a lot of coyote calling, it's nice to be able to drop the mag, pop out ONE SHELL, and move to the next spot. Luckily here in KS, it's legal to drive with a loaded rifle WHILE HUNTING, so if I'm using a bolt gun, I just don't unload it.

I'd personally rather hunt deer with a single shot than a DM bolt gun.

If I'm reading this right, you're acting as if having a DM is against the "philosophy" of Weatherby, as in that putting a DM in a rifle that's so firmly ANTI-DM that it's an insult? I guess I don't see the joke? I guess if Weatherby is so anti-DM in philosophy, I wasn't aware of it?

You could say that about ANY of the big bolt makers, Remington, Ruger, Winchester, Savage... They've all traditionally been blind mags. There's always been a few models that deviate, and as the market demands are changing, the makers are moving to keep up (Savage 12BVSS replaced by Savage VLP DM, Ruger Gunsite rifle, All of these quik-mag refits for Remingtons)...

Frankly, if I put a new seats in my F-350, it's still a FORD TRUCK. Putting in a DM doesn't change the ACTION of the rifle. However, if you change the ACTION of the rifle, i.e. replacing a Rem 700 with a Stiller Predator (drop in replacement action for Rem 700), then no, I wouldn't call it a Remington anymore (since the ACTION is now a Stiller).

Bottom line, adding a DM doesn't change what's stamped into the receiver... It says Weatherby on the side today, it'll say weatherby on the side tomorrow...

Honestly alot of old school, died in the wool Weatherby lovers STILL consider anything BUT a Mark V as being "un-Weatherby" or a non-Weatherby. And I'll go you one even further than that, many old timers I've known consider Weatherby to have died with Mr. Roy himself. :bash:

As for a DBM vs hinged floorplate or even a blind magazine, I don't think that makes or doesn't make a rifle of a certain maker. I personally prefer NOT having DBMs as DBMs imho are just one more thing to have to keep up with or worry about. But the Lord knows the market has essentially demanded them over the last 10-15 years so more offer them than not, at least in the domestic market.

I have a 1983 300 Mark V DLX that is BEAUTIFUL. I "had" a 25/06 Vanguard vlx back in the early 90s that I considered just as much a Weatherby as the MarkV. (Someone borrowed it without asking and has yet to return it! :mad: )
HL

Just a personal preference thing.


1st must weigh under 7lbs or very close (stripped)
2nd must be synthetic
3rd must have DBM
4th if the first three requirements are met; want the stainless model

DBM for me is the easiest to "mess with" when in the field.

Loading, unloading, with gloves on, follow-up shots, carring spare ammo, etc.


I'm well aware a lot of people hate them - as they do synthetic stocks.

Each to their own.................beauty is in the eye of the beholder !